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post 1697454423 02-05-2024, 01:05 PM
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Given the facts about evolution, we should be able to replicate it with , proof*

Homosapiens evolved from homo erectus (lol erect)

Oldest homo erectus is 1.5 million years old (Google > nhm.ac.uk)

Oldest homosapien is 500K years old (google > nhm.ac.uk)

It took roughly 1 million years for homo erectus to branch species into something else.

Let's call a generation 20 years. Humans don't have babies at 80 years old they do it at 18-23. So 20 years is a generation.

In 1 million years, you have 50,000 generations.

50k generations to create a new species. Agree? Yes. Not debatable. Ok.

Ok...moving on to my point.

A house fly begins to reproduce at 48hours.

So, 1 generation of a house fly is 48hours.

We'd need 273 years to get 50k generations.

There exist bacteria with a generation reproduction span of just 10 minutes. We would need less than a year to get 50k generations out of that.


We SHOULD be able to begin an evolution experiment with the house fly that seeks to evolve them into a new species in just 275 years. And we SHOULD be able to see a complete evolution of bacteria in less than 1 year.
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We are watching it now with all of the stupid people breeding and look what's happening to society.

Some say we came from apes, but obvious clues show that's the final form.
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It's still happening. Takes a bit for a new species to completely separate.

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Not true

Darwin posits that inferior mutations will be selected out (die) from the gene pool

Things like vaccines, eye glasses, antibiotics, autism awareness etc prevent that happening

Just look at the misc
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"erectus likely went extinct due to climate change"

full circle. didnt pay their carbon tax
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OP doesn't believe in evolution???
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Originally Posted By ithappenss⏩
"erectus likely went extinct due to climate change"

full circle. didnt pay their carbon tax
Is that why my penor is small when it's cold?
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Not true

Darwin posits that inferior mutations will be selected out (die) from the gene pool
That's genetics, only half of evolution. Evolution says everything came from simple lifeforms by chance. When things reproduce and traits are selected out, you are losing genetic information not gaining. OP wants an example of things gaining genetic information over time.
post 1697458253 02-05-2024, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
OP doesn't believe in evolution???
Standard fed muddying the waters
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You do know that dogs have evolved to have facial expressions?
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
We SHOULD be able to begin an evolution experiment with the house fly that seeks to evolve them into a new species in just 275 years. And we SHOULD be able to see a complete evolution of bacteria in less than 1 year.
You do all the time, look at how viruses mutate.
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I think the concept of evolution makes sense. That said, I don't think people have any kind of grasp on science and especially paleontology. Scientists have massive egos and will use mental gymnastics to make whatever evidence they have fit their agenda. They could find a fossil millions of years older than what's known and claim it's coincidence or some bs.

Want to see an example? Look into the Alaskan "boneyard." He finds all kinds of chit from the last ice age like dire wolves and sabertooth tiger skulls in a 2 acre plot of land on his private gold mine. Those animals were never known to be in Alaska at that time. Since he found them, they obviously were, but colleges will straight up deny they ever lived there just cause it isn't in the text books their professors wrote. It's strange.
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Does not believing in evolution get ppl on a list, fed brah?

To answer your dumbass question, they already did this like 200 yrs on Galapagos island with butterflies.

And it happens all the time. Recent example off the top of my head: it is becoming quite common for rattlesnakes to not have working rattles. Why? Because the ones that rattle would get discovered and killed, whereas the ones with rattles that dont work have a better chance of not being detected.
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior⏩
Does not believing in evolution get ppl on a list, fed brah?

To answer your dumbass question, they already did this like 200 yrs on Galapagos island with butterflies.

And it happens all the time. Recent example off the top of my head: it is becoming quite common for rattlesnakes to not have working rattles. Why? Because the ones that rattle would get discovered and killed, whereas the ones with rattles that dont work have a better chance of not being detected.
ha, gay as hell to be demoted from rattlesnake to just snake
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Originally Posted By skunkshark⏩
That's genetics, only half of evolution. Evolution says everything came from simple lifeforms by chance. When things reproduce and traits are selected out, you are losing genetic information not gaining. OP wants an example of things gaining genetic information over time.
LMAO - not even wrong. Were you homeschooled brah?
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How else would we have evolved if not for evolution? Hopefully you aren't thinking we were made 2,000 years ago by a mythical man in the sky? Which theory is more plausible?
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
ha, gay as hell to be demoted from rattlesnake to just snake
Stealth rattlesnake.
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Originally Posted By Narrator02⏩
How else would we have evolved if not for evolution? Hopefully you aren't thinking we were made 2,000 years ago by a mythical man in the sky? Which theory is more plausible?
Well simulation theory doesn’t require evolution.
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior⏩
Does not believing in evolution get ppl on a list, fed brah?

To answer your dumbass question, they already did this like 200 yrs on Galapagos island with butterflies.

And it happens all the time. Recent example off the top of my head: it is becoming quite common for rattlesnakes to not have working rattles. Why? Because the ones that rattle would get discovered and killed, whereas the ones with rattles that dont work have a better chance of not being detected.
That isn't evolution. Evolution requires a new species with added genetic information. You're talking about something else.

Mutations only ever omit info, never add to it.

I'd like to see genetic info added. Mutations NEVER amount to evolution because Mutations ALWAYS delete genetic data, every. Single. Time
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**** off back to your fedboi **** hole op
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Just lol @ believing in evolution

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I think we do it with dogs, selective breeding
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
ha, gay as hell to be demoted from rattlesnake to just snake
lol I’m going to call them a ******* next time I see one of then
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Originally Posted By baldbrah⏩
It's still happening. Takes a bit for a new species to completely separate.

yeah they can tell peoples race from the skeleton, when they find a dead skeleton they will know what race it was and male or female. That basically destroys the view that "race is just a social construct". but there isnt any real research into races and species because science has been politicized for many decades now. Any scientist trying to study it will get blacklisted and no grants approved.
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Originally Posted By Brommando⏩
I think we do it with dogs, selective breeding
Nope, dogs are still the same species. A chihuahua and a wolf can breed. It isn't evolution
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If humans had a few more years, abos would've evolved to be a different race. Maybe blacks too
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
That isn't evolution. Evolution requires a new species with added genetic information. You're talking about something else.

Mutations only ever omit info, never add to it.

I'd like to see genetic info added. Mutations NEVER amount to evolution because Mutations ALWAYS delete genetic data, every. Single. Time
IDK if mutations only ever delete genetic data. Isn't something like downs syndrome caused by extra genetic info (chromosome)? But trait selection via reproduction is the loss of genetic info and it's what everyone thinks is evolution, but it's basically the opposite of evolution.
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Originally Posted By pimpinyogirl⏩
Have you ever considered taking a university course in Evolution, OP? You'd probably learn a fair bit from one.
I have. Not just 1 either. I was in line to be a vet before I changed out to an MBA.

Where do you think these questions come from?

Most people don't understand the theory of evolution, and there seems to be a 33% / 33% / 33% split on how it works. Even virgin evolution believers can't agree amongst eachother what it is.

Gradual change over time
No no no it's a sudden mutation
*teleports behind you* *whispers* fools, it's a sudden speciecide where only a few of the remainder survive

None of you agree.
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
That isn't evolution. Evolution requires a new species with added genetic information. You're talking about something else.

Mutations only ever omit info, never add to it.

I'd like to see genetic info added. Mutations NEVER amount to evolution because Mutations ALWAYS delete genetic data, every. Single. Time
That's a strawman and clearly you don't understand wtf you're talking about. What do you mean mutations never amount to evolution? Genetic drift is one of the main mechanisms behind biodiversity.
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Originally Posted By teodorkanev1⏩
That's a strawman and clearly you don't understand wtf you're talking about. What do you mean mutations never amount to evolution? Genetic drift is one of the main mechanisms behind biodiversity.
what i mean by mutations never amount to evolution is very simply this:...

Mutations do not add genetic information. Mutations are ONLY missing genetic information. Period.
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