if you track you lifts especially SBD you are more than likely a no-life homo


if you're not a star athlete, it does not matter how much you can lift as long as you're functionally strong. "bro i can squat 35 pounds more than i could 2 months ago" get a fking life. The amount of effort you put into improving your lifts is so much for so little return and other areas of life are lagging.


try investing more time into experiencing other areas of life than moving a weight up and down, up and down, up and down, and making your life revolve around fuelling your body so it can lift up and down, up and down. The only thing you're really moving up, and down, is your level of homo and your level of hetero, respectively.


Get a real hobby. A skill. Interact with women. Learn chit. Educate yourself on the nature of the world. Make more money. Help out other people. Develop a moral compass. Make some friends. Raise children.

Do something other than moving a weight and eating chicken and rice


Socrates said no man has a right to be an amateur in physical training

but he didn't say ignore every other aspect of life and remain a low IQ womanless friendless skilless uneducated troglodyte to achieve it

Counter:

1. OP has no avi. Which, that alone probably ends this.

2. Lifting and exercise are proven to enhance your health and appearance. Want to do all the things the OP seems to think lifting gets in the way of? Hobbies? Skill? Interacting with women? Learning chit? Lifting, being in shape and exercising is going to help you do a better job of them (in most cases, not sure about all hobbies). If tracking your progress helps you achieve those goals or keep your motivation, then do it. No reason not to do it at all.

3. In case it wasn't already clear: Lifting does not keep you from doing anything in life. Nothing. Him making it out as you're wasting your time because you should be making money, chasing women or having children, that's pretty much 100% bullchit. You can do all those things and also lift. Lifting will just make you healthier and feel better longer to do more of it over time.

Counter counter: All the brahs I know irl, myself in the past included, who obsess over their lifts have piss-poor social lives & usually no other hobbies or interests of any kind. It absolutely can and does often distract from other things in life. Gymbrahs are always massive autists irl.

Are we talking a normal person who works out 3-4 a week, tries to eat clean and keeps a small log book? Or someone suffering from legitimate mental illness body dysmorphia or with other underlying mental problems they think lifting is going to solve?

Which, ok – anything can be taken too far. Exercise and lifting is great at making you look and feel better and be healthier – but if you obsess over it to the point you're withdrawn or have prioritized it above your family or personal health or something? Obviously, not good.

I am not really talking about any of that. Of course, someone can take it too far (and this isn't uncommon in the lifting world, some people do). What I was addressing was the more benign general comment about lifting in general from the OP:
"PSA: Lifting = gey. Tracking lifting stats = gey. Caring about lifting = no life"

Which, he isn't speaking out against someone who is a Warrior Monk who has dedicated their life to the God of Iron. He's saying *lifting*, *tracking*, *caring* in general, which covers a lot more than the handful of people who take it way too far.

I suppose the problem is that the majority of people who do things, lifting included, either "take them too far" or don't really do them. Every gym I ever go to seems to be a large majority of people fuking around with 0 intensity on the machines and sitting on their phones. The next largest majority are gymcel brahs who worship at the house of iron. The minority get their hard lifts in and get out.

To be fair, you could say this about almost anything. The majority of the dudes who are always out partying and socializing tend to have terrible bodies & fuk all discipline.

1) I didn't say don't lift. I said obsessively caring about lifting and adding another 10 pounds to your bench with a strict regimen is gey.
2) you failed to disprove anything i said, instead attacking the argument of "dont lift at all" which i did not make
3) whats your iq level? whats your arm size?

1. The title of the thread literally says, "lifting = gey". I'm glad you narrowed it down more here, although I think you're still way too critical about doing simple and minor things like tracking your progress. It's not a big deal. Now, like Strawng is saying: You can make it a big deal and go too far, I think we are all in agreement there, you just make the cutoff too early. Not someone who is obsessed and ruining their existence chasing gains, but someone simply being strict. Discipline is almost always a good thing when approaching anything, including weight training and exercise.

2. Which, again, the title of the thread itself is making very broad generalizations. Also, I did actually address your more specific critique of tracking – when I said it's not a big deal and if it helps keep you motivated or helps you achieve goals - then do it. I think I disproved your "Do not Track!" stance pretty well. Lifting is good, tracking may help you with that, then do it because there is no downside to normal tracking of progress. You brought up a host of other activities, as if to suggest it's either/or that you could either chase money, girls and hobbies OR lift and track progress, so I needed to take some time to shoot down that flawed implication.

3. a) High enough to stay on topic and shoot down implied arguments made by people and b) probably bigger than most non-Avis.

Agreed

Once I stopped caring about lifts it was much better

the title of the thread is intended to be attention grabbing and hitting the broad strokes of the thread content due it being a title

the (obviously) implied audience is the gym obsessed incels who meticulously track everything, think they are "the man" because they lift, are dumbfukly obsessed with hitting new numbers , not the literal reading of the title


also, lifting is by nature a homo activity. males obsessing over how they look is a gey, beta, feminine energy

I would say the title of the thread does more than capture attention, but agree to disagree on that I guess.

Otherwise, I don't really disagree with anything you said, other than your extra unnecessary space you put in before the last sentence (and a lot of people do this? why?)

I think exercise and lifting is excellent for overall health and such – but you're talking about people who are obsessed or fuking weird about it. We can agree on that, it's counter productive and when/if it gets in the way of actually important things in life (relationships, health, etc) then it's become toxic.

agreed

these people live very lonely lives so like how they tell a senior or depressed women to get a cat it gives them something to do

Ive also notice people who track their lifts at my gym look like twinks and haven't put on a single bit of muscle in the past year

It's pretty damn easy to just remember what you did the previous workout. Lol @ dorks with notepads in the gym.