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08-19-2024, 10:47 AM
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90% of people who fail in life had poor parents and grew up poor.
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08-19-2024, 10:48 AM
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agreed
08-19-2024, 10:49 AM
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More like they were raised by a single mother.
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08-19-2024, 10:51 AM
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Obviously not lol
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08-19-2024, 10:52 AM
#5
In turn, they are then poor parents and the cycle repeats.
I don't think it's a perfect correlation like you're implying but I definitely think most people suck ass as parents and that for sure factors in. It's not the end all be all, but it's an extremely significant part of it.
I don't think it's a perfect correlation like you're implying but I definitely think most people suck ass as parents and that for sure factors in. It's not the end all be all, but it's an extremely significant part of it.
08-19-2024, 10:57 AM
#6
Originally Posted By TryingMen⏩
At a certain point you grow up and begin to make your own choices.
In turn, they are then poor parents and the cycle repeats.
I don't think it's a perfect correlation like you're implying but I definitely think most people suck ass as parents and that for sure factors in. It's not the end all be all, but it's an extremely significant part of it.
I don't think it's a perfect correlation like you're implying but I definitely think most people suck ass as parents and that for sure factors in. It's not the end all be all, but it's an extremely significant part of it.
If you know that your parents mad you susceptible to a bad trait then you should be able to recognize it in yourself.
If there is something that you don't like about yourself then you change it, if you don't change it then you choose to be that way and that is not your parents fault.
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08-19-2024, 12:18 PM
#7
That doesn't account for the examples where most of the siblings are successful but there's one who always struggles in life.
08-19-2024, 12:40 PM
#8
Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
It doesn't change the fact your parents set you up on a course to make things more difficult. Of course you CAN overcome it. Like I said parents aren't the end all be all of everything. But you can't sit there and tell me it's not a huge factor. It absolutely is, even down to the habits they instill in you. If you want to sit there and say "oh it's on the individual once they become an adult to just do/make better choices"…. go ahead. But making significant character changes can be extremely effortful, and your parents play a role in that and why there will always be a strong correlation between poor parents and people who fail in life. "Just change it" is the dumbest argument ever to say parents aren't influential in why someone is failing now.
At a certain point you grow up and begin to make your own choices.
If you know that your parents mad you susceptible to a bad trait then you should be able to recognize it in yourself.
If there is something that you don't like about yourself then you change it, if you don't change it then you choose to be that way and that is not your parents fault.
If you know that your parents mad you susceptible to a bad trait then you should be able to recognize it in yourself.
If there is something that you don't like about yourself then you change it, if you don't change it then you choose to be that way and that is not your parents fault.
Let's look at it this way…. you probably aren't a multi-millionaire. Well why? Don't you want to be? Just change it bro….. this is what every trust fund kid is probably thinking whose parents bankrolled their endeavors. So if that's your argument… you should be a multi-millionaire by just changing yourself. In b4 somehow this is different because I moved the goal post for what is considered a failure.
08-19-2024, 12:42 PM
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Quality post, definitely holds a lot of truth, my parents hated me and I have floundered in life, just now getting my life on track at 40 years old.
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08-19-2024, 12:51 PM
#10
Originally Posted By TryingMen⏩
I think I would be more successful if I had better parents but I don't know that, if my parents were smart and successful then maybe I wouldn't be able to think independently.
It doesn't change the fact your parents set you up on a course to make things more difficult. Of course you CAN overcome it. Like I said parents aren't the end all be all of everything. But you can't sit there and tell me it's not a huge factor. It absolutely is, even down to the habits they instill in you. If you want to sit there and say "oh it's on the individual once they become an adult to just do/make better choices"…. go ahead. But making significant character changes can be extremely effortful, and your parents play a role in that and why there will always be a strong correlation between poor parents and people who fail in life. "Just change it" is the dumbest argument ever to say parents aren't influential in why someone is failing now.
Let's look at it this way…. you probably aren't a multi-millionaire. Well why? Don't you want to be? Just change it bro….. this is what every trust fund kid is probably thinking whose parents bankrolled their endeavors. So if that's your argument… you should be a multi-millionaire by just changing yourself. In b4 somehow this is different because I moved the goal post for what is considered a failure.
Let's look at it this way…. you probably aren't a multi-millionaire. Well why? Don't you want to be? Just change it bro….. this is what every trust fund kid is probably thinking whose parents bankrolled their endeavors. So if that's your argument… you should be a multi-millionaire by just changing yourself. In b4 somehow this is different because I moved the goal post for what is considered a failure.
I'm not saying make the changes as soon as you recognize the problem, I'm saying work towards bettering yourself instead of giving up and then blaming that on others.
Life is uncomfortable, life is hard and not everyone will win but even losers live a fulfilling life, you have to fight for what you want but not what you need.
Originally Posted By TryingMen⏩
I'm not a billionaire but that is something I'm trying to change about myself.
Let's look at it this way…. you probably aren't a multi-millionaire. Well why? Don't you want to be? Just change it bro….. this is what every trust fund kid is probably thinking whose parents bankrolled their endeavors. So if that's your argument… you should be a multi-millionaire by just changing yourself. In b4 somehow this is different because I moved the goal post for what is considered a failure.
Originally Posted By johnvee73⏩
Maybe you floundered because you refused to take responsibility for your life.
Quality post, definitely holds a lot of truth, my parents hated me and I have floundered in life, just now getting my life on track at 40 years old.
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08-19-2024, 12:55 PM
#11
Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
Whatever you say.
I think I would be more successful if I had better parents but I don't know that, if my parents were smart and successful then maybe I wouldn't be able to think independently.
I'm not saying make the changes as soon as you recognize the problem, I'm saying work towards bettering yourself instead of giving up and then blaming that on others.
Life is uncomfortable, life is hard and not everyone will win but even losers live a fulfilling life, you have to fight for what you want but not what you need.
I'm not a billionaire but that is something I'm trying to change about myself.
Maybe you floundered because you refused to take responsibility for your life.
I'm not saying make the changes as soon as you recognize the problem, I'm saying work towards bettering yourself instead of giving up and then blaming that on others.
Life is uncomfortable, life is hard and not everyone will win but even losers live a fulfilling life, you have to fight for what you want but not what you need.
I'm not a billionaire but that is something I'm trying to change about myself.
Maybe you floundered because you refused to take responsibility for your life.
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08-19-2024, 12:55 PM
#12
Originally Posted By Mckay23⏩
There are exceptions to every rule but in general what's said in the OP is true.
That doesn't account for the examples where most of the siblings are successful but there's one who always struggles in life.
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08-19-2024, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted By johnvee73⏩
Lol.
Whatever you say.
Now I'm going to say it was likely your fault.
I said maybe it was your fault then you immediately protect yourself instead of analyzing and engaging in conversation.
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08-19-2024, 01:05 PM
#14
Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
Its all in your head.
Lol.
Now I'm going to say it was likely your fault.
I said maybe it was your fault then you immediately protect yourself instead of analyzing and engaging in conversation.
Now I'm going to say it was likely your fault.
I said maybe it was your fault then you immediately protect yourself instead of analyzing and engaging in conversation.
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08-19-2024, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
I think I would be more successful if I had better parents but I don't know that, if my parents were smart and successful then maybe I wouldn't be able to think independently.
I'm not saying make the changes as soon as you recognize the problem, I'm saying work towards bettering yourself instead of giving up and then blaming that on others.
Life is uncomfortable, life is hard and not everyone will win but even losers live a fulfilling life, you have to fight for what you want but not what you need.
I'm not a billionaire but that is something I'm trying to change about myself.
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I'm not saying make the changes as soon as you recognize the problem, I'm saying work towards bettering yourself instead of giving up and then blaming that on others.
Life is uncomfortable, life is hard and not everyone will win but even losers live a fulfilling life, you have to fight for what you want but not what you need.
I'm not a billionaire but that is something I'm trying to change about myself.
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It's possible you're more successful because you had worse parents, but as a general rule that's unlikely to hold true for most. Obviously everyone should take personal responsibility for their lives. I'm not saying to blame your parents is an acceptable cop out. To think it has no influence just because you're an adult and can think for yourself now I also think just isn't accurate either.
Never use it as an excuse to stop trying, but it can be part of the reason you only get so far is the reality.
08-19-2024, 01:13 PM
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I don't know. I haven't read on that. Single parent households tend to be poorer and children in them are more likely to do lousy in life, but not always.
quite a few in my family grew up dirt poor, yet went on to do well in life. My father was that way. His family had nothing but as he will say, they had little material wealth they (he and his brothers) did have a lot of love from family and that helped him greatly in life.
quite a few in my family grew up dirt poor, yet went on to do well in life. My father was that way. His family had nothing but as he will say, they had little material wealth they (he and his brothers) did have a lot of love from family and that helped him greatly in life.
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08-19-2024, 01:44 PM
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08-19-2024, 02:04 PM
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I think someone has had the nature vs nurture discussion before in the history of the internet.
08-19-2024, 02:09 PM
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The question is, does poverty come from low IQ or environmental factors? In a country like America, low IQ seems more likely
08-19-2024, 02:15 PM
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No doubt. You grow up with your parents collecting welfare and doing side hustles you'll probably think that's the way to go. If they have a job they work basic dead end low wage pay you'll think that's alright. Even with women, they will think a guy like that is a real man and have a kid with him and seal her fate.
Funny to listen to a lot of trailer trash and hood rats, how they will brag about making all of this money but for some reason they are poor AF. Like this one dude told me how he made the real money because he is a plumber, bragging how much he makes on every call, but the reality is he was LIVING IN THE PLUMBING VAN. Got into trouble because he went to a bar and couldn't pay his bar tab. But then these people will get to gullible people and they will think they are legit. My favorites are the "entrepreneurs" and "business owners" who are basically the same thing where even though they talk about all of this money they make, they live in chit. Meanwhile, teachers, and other government workers are always the opposite how they cry about how they don't get paid and yet live very well.
Funny to listen to a lot of trailer trash and hood rats, how they will brag about making all of this money but for some reason they are poor AF. Like this one dude told me how he made the real money because he is a plumber, bragging how much he makes on every call, but the reality is he was LIVING IN THE PLUMBING VAN. Got into trouble because he went to a bar and couldn't pay his bar tab. But then these people will get to gullible people and they will think they are legit. My favorites are the "entrepreneurs" and "business owners" who are basically the same thing where even though they talk about all of this money they make, they live in chit. Meanwhile, teachers, and other government workers are always the opposite how they cry about how they don't get paid and yet live very well.
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08-19-2024, 02:17 PM
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Most, not all, but most poor people stay poor because they are stupid and make stupid decisions with their lives.
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08-19-2024, 02:44 PM
#22
being socially inept
having an average penis
getting in the storm of addiction/toxic relations
adds to the ass of failure.
having an average penis
getting in the storm of addiction/toxic relations
adds to the ass of failure.
08-19-2024, 04:36 PM
#23
Originally Posted By explosiveMidget⏩
Yet we can see with a even with common factors such as birth order there is a statistical link to diagnoses that increase poor outcomes in life:
There are exceptions to every rule but in general what's said in the OP is true.
Depression was more prevalent among males of birth order 4 (53.3%) and females of birth order 6 (72.7%). Dissociative disorder was more prevalent in the first order child (26.7%), with twice the prevalence in females (57.1%). Among males, birth order 2 had the highest prevalence (70.6%) of alcohol dependence.
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