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08-23-2024, 03:16 PM
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Something is off about the solar system model…

If we're looking top down at the solar system, earth revolves around the sun.

When earth is at the, let's call it, southern position of the model, there is a dark side of the earth. So let's focus on midnight in this position.

Well, after 180 full rotations, the earth has revolved halfway around the sun. So now it's at the, let's call it, north position.

Which means midnight should now be fully illuminated, it's now completely facing the sun.

I don't get it what am I missing???

And don't say "it's the tilt". I have 2 oranges and I'm tilting one and going through the full rotations and halfway revolution and it's still coming up as midnight being illuminated on one side of the sun and dark on thr other side
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08-23-2024, 03:34 PM
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08-23-2024, 03:40 PM
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And don't say "it's the tilt". I have 2 oranges and I'm tilting one and going through the full rotations and halfway revolution and it's still coming up as midnight being illuminated on one side of the sun and dark on thr other side
Imagine some miscer waving oranges around like a deranged monkey trying to debunk established scientific theory.
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08-23-2024, 03:40 PM
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If we're looking top down at the solar system, earth revolves around the sun.

When earth is at the, let's call it, southern position of the model, there is a dark side of the earth. So let's focus on midnight in this position.

Well, after 180 full rotations, the earth has revolved halfway around the sun. So now it's at the, let's call it, north position.

Which means midnight should now be fully illuminated , it's now completely facing the sun.

I don't get it what am I missing???

And don't say "it's the tilt". I have 2 oranges and I'm tilting one and going through the full rotations and halfway revolution and it's still coming up as midnight being illuminated on one side of the sun and dark on thr other side

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08-23-2024, 03:43 PM
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you know they don't orbit the sun in a circle
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08-23-2024, 03:46 PM
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If the earth didn't spin, the same side would always be facing the sun. That side would point "south" and then "north" 6 months later.

The spin then happens on top of that, so midnight is always facing away.
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08-23-2024, 03:46 PM
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can u do this op?

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08-23-2024, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Condo41
If we're looking top down at the solar system, earth revolves around the sun.

When earth is at the, let's call it, southern position of the model, there is a dark side of the earth. So let's focus on midnight in this position.

Well, after 180 full rotations, the earth has revolved halfway around the sun. So now it's at the, let's call it, north position.

Which means midnight should now be fully illuminated, it's now completely facing the sun.

I don't get it what am I missing???

And don't say "it's the tilt". I have 2 oranges and I'm tilting one and going through the full rotations and halfway revolution and it's still coming up as midnight being illuminated on one side of the sun and dark on thr other side

The earth is flat. The earth doesn't move at all.






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08-23-2024, 04:12 PM
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can u do this op?

fuk I didn't get any of those
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08-23-2024, 04:12 PM
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08-23-2024, 04:15 PM
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i modeled it op.

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/8ltmw4m2m9

press play at the top or type in t=0, then type in t=3.14159
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08-23-2024, 04:18 PM
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i modeled it op.

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/8ltmw4m2m9

press play at the top or type in t=0, then type in t=3.14159


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08-23-2024, 04:18 PM
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fuk I didn't get any of those
Circumference is linearly proportional to radius, therefore, if A has 1/3 the radius of B, it also has 1/3 the circumference of B. If both circles are always touching, it would therefore need 3 full circumferences (3 revolutions) to complete the circumference of B.
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08-23-2024, 04:20 PM
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Circumference is linearly proportional to radius, therefore, if A has 1/3 the radius of B, it also has 1/3 the circumference of B. If both circles are always touching, it would therefore need 3 full circumferences (3 revolutions) to complete the circumference of B.

You sound like a ball earther.


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08-23-2024, 04:22 PM
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Circumference is linearly proportional to radius, therefore, if A has 1/3 the radius of B, it also has 1/3 the circumference of B. If both circles are always touching, it would therefore need 3 full circumferences (3 revolutions) to complete the circumference of B.
answer is actually 4
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08-23-2024, 04:53 PM
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answer is actually 4
You can make it 4, depending on your frame of reference.

If you draw an arrow from the centre of A East at the start, after one revolution, it is still pointing at the centre of B and has therefore rotated by 120 degrees. Do that 3 times and and you get a full 360 on top of the 3, making it 4.

How you frame the question can make it 4, but it can also make it 3.
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08-23-2024, 05:01 PM
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Try using a clementine and a grapefruit.
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08-23-2024, 05:04 PM
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Try using a clementine and a grapefruit.
He should try using a banana and a pineapple and alternate shoving them up his ass.

Let’s say banana at noon, pineapple at midnight.
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08-23-2024, 05:08 PM
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You need to use apples instead of oranges and it will make sense. Try again and report back with your findings.
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08-23-2024, 07:26 PM
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You can make it 4, depending on your frame of reference.

If you draw an arrow from the centre of A East at the start, after one revolution, it is still pointing at the centre of B and has therefore rotated by 120 degrees. Do that 3 times and and you get a full 360 on top of the 3, making it 4.

How you frame the question can make it 4, but it can also make it 3.
Further to this, the issue of frame of reference is at the heart or OP's misunderstanding.

If you take the frame of reference of the sun and the earth, 1 revolution of the earth is when the same face of the earth points at the sun.

A frame of reference outside of the solar system would see that as 1 + 1/365 revolutions (in the same way as it would see it as 1+1/3, in the graphic)

OP is taking a frame of reference outside of the solar system and using 1 revolution, which would be 1-1/365 revolutions from the frame of reference of the earth and the sun, leading to the opposite side of the earth facing the sun at midnight.

As with many things in life, it all comes down to where you stand and OP is standing in the wrong place.
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08-23-2024, 07:31 PM
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You can make it 4, depending on your frame of reference.

If you draw an arrow from the centre of A East at the start, after one revolution, it is still pointing at the centre of B and has therefore rotated by 120 degrees. Do that 3 times and and you get a full 360 on top of the 3, making it 4.

How you frame the question can make it 4, but it can also make it 3.
the way the question was phrased is how many times does the smaller circle rotate once it completes its journey, not how many times a person on the smaller circle rotates relative to the larger circle. but i get the reasoning you give. i also said 3 when i came across this because i took the perspective of a person living on the smaller circle

for anyone interested here is a model showing the differences https://www.desmos.com/calculator/5ovoce0fwd

the black point hits the bigger circle 3 times, so if you were on a ferris wheel rolling around the earth youd say you rolled around 3 times. but the ferris wheel itself (or a person strapped to the center of the wheel) as indicated by the 3=D label shows the wheel itself would have turned four times
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08-23-2024, 07:40 PM
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Something is off about physics

If you ask “why” infinitely to any question in the world you end up at the programmed roadblock of physics every time

Ever since I found that out it’s messed with me. That’s not normal LMAO

It’s like an installed filter/block to stop you from asking why
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imagine some miscer waving oranges around like a deranged monkey trying to debunk established scientific theory.
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08-23-2024, 09:02 PM
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Earth is flat

Once you realise that it becomes a lot easier to accept stuff
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