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08-26-2024, 12:06 PM
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Honestly, I thought she already had.

She's already been working with him/ even debate prep.
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08-26-2024, 12:09 PM
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Honestly, I thought she already had.

She's already been working with him/ even debate prep.
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08-26-2024, 12:13 PM
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08-26-2024, 12:55 PM
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What collapse? Tulsi isn't even a registered Democrat, retarded OP. Everyone already knew she was slobbering Trump after news came out she was the new Chris Christie [Helping Trumpy with debate prep ].
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08-26-2024, 12:58 PM
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What collapse? Tulsi isn't even a registered Democrat, retarded OP. Everyone already knew she was slobbering Trump after news came out she was the new Chris Christie [Helping Trumpy with debate prep ].

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08-26-2024, 01:00 PM
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What collapse? Tulsi isn't even a registered Democrat, retarded OP. Everyone already knew she was slobbering Trump after news came out she was the new Chris Christie [Helping Trumpy with debate prep ].
She was a democrat leader. This is official and timely good.

She saw the light and changed her ways. Very brave to go against the democratic party. You will not escape unscathed and supreme retribution.
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08-26-2024, 01:08 PM
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Think RFK will hit it on tour?
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08-26-2024, 01:10 PM
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Think RFK will hit it on tour?
Yes.
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08-26-2024, 01:19 PM
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Him opposing the Iraq war at first is BS. Like most things, he flip flopped multiple times and gave different takes based on whatever came to his head.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...n-the-iraq-war
A lot of people looking in from the outside were gung ho, we'd been lied to repeatedly about Saddam and the WMDs. I count myself as one of them, I bought the bullchit and it really wasn't until 2006 that I re-thought the stance, re-looked at it and realized it was all a sham and a fraud.

I don't know the exact timelines, but sometime after Iraq and sometime before 2006 (when my own position shifted) I saw with my own eyes, hazy memory or not, but I recall seeing the interview on Fox and being against Trump's anti-war stance.

So, at some point he shifted and it was a time where the average Joe Idiot Republican, which I was, would disagree with him – and he did this on Fox.

So I have to give him some credit for this, even with the articles of Buzzfeed sleuths who went back to evaluate Trump, surely with a biased anti-Trump lense and are quoting interviews but not linking them directly to be seen with my own eyes.
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08-26-2024, 01:46 PM
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A lot of people looking in from the outside were gung ho, we'd been lied to repeatedly about Saddam and the WMDs. I count myself as one of them, I bought the bullchit and it really wasn't until 2006 that I re-thought the stance, re-looked at it and realized it was all a sham and a fraud.

I don't know the exact timelines, but sometime after Iraq and sometime before 2006 (when my own position shifted) I saw with my own eyes, hazy memory or not, but I recall seeing the interview on Fox and being against Trump's anti-war stance.

So, at some point he shifted and it was a time where the average Joe Idiot Republican, which I was, would disagree with him – and he did this on Fox.

So I have to give him some credit for this, even with the articles of Buzzfeed sleuths who went back to evaluate Trump, surely with a biased anti-Trump lense and are quoting interviews but not linking them directly to be seen with my own eyes.

I've been opposed to the Iraq War since 2003. I still wish I could tell the numerous people from high school and college who were fervent for that nonsensical war "I told you so ."
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08-26-2024, 02:59 PM
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I've been opposed to the Iraq War since 2003. I still wish I could tell the numerous people from high school and college who were fervent for that nonsensical war "I told you so ."
Tell it to me, you had it right when I was wrong. I don't love repeating it, but it's true and when you're wrong, you make up it by being honest about it.

So, for what it's worth, I was blinded by my at the time Republican bias, I went along with Bush and his lies, I foolishly dismissed many of the anti-war activists as just political stooges targeting anything and everything Republican. Those anti-war mothers in particular were still at it when Obama was president, God Bless them especially (even if the media stopped covering their protests).

You have my apology and if it means anything, I made a mistake but I learned from it. WMD propaganda won't happen to me twice.
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08-26-2024, 05:44 PM
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Tell it to me, you had it right when I was wrong. I don't love repeating it, but it's true and when you're wrong, you make up it by being honest about it.

So, for what it's worth, I was blinded by my at the time Republican bias, I went along with Bush and his lies, I foolishly dismissed many of the anti-war activists as just political stooges targeting anything and everything Republican. Those anti-war mothers in particular were still at it when Obama was president, God Bless them especially (even if the media stopped covering their protests).

You have my apology and if it means anything, I made a mistake but I learned from it. WMD propaganda won't happen to me twice.
Don't feel too bad about it, it was made especially credible by Saddam's use of WMD's previously (chemical weapons in the 80's).
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08-27-2024, 05:25 AM
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Tell it to me, you had it right when I was wrong. I don't love repeating it, but it's true and when you're wrong, you make up it by being honest about it.

So, for what it's worth, I was blinded by my at the time Republican bias, I went along with Bush and his lies, I foolishly dismissed many of the anti-war activists as just political stooges targeting anything and everything Republican. Those anti-war mothers in particular were still at it when Obama was president, God Bless them especially (even if the media stopped covering their protests).

You have my apology and if it means anything, I made a mistake but I learned from it. WMD propaganda won't happen to me twice.
I got it wrong as well (though I was in high school and knew nothing about politics at the time).

I was intrigued by Obama's anti-war, transparency rhetoric from his campaign, only to then watch him bend the knee to the MIC, lead one of the least transparent presidencies, stoke racial tensions, expand intel's data surveillance on Americans, and for the first time, start to use those expanded powers against political opponents (Lois Lerner and the IRS scandal, spying on trump and russiagate, etc.).

What you hear in the media and what actually occurs are 2 very different things. I'm now very cynical about the establishment arms of politics.
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