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Originally Posted By sam212⏩
That's why I bench with a wide grip, it saves my shoulders, plus a narrow bench is just delts and triceps work, very little chest involvedMore than impingement, shoulder DJD is an issue, especially with heavy OHP. I have seen a lot of it in middle aged muscular dudes. You hardly see cuff tears, unless they juiced. You’d see cuff tears in guys that are still lifting heavy in their 50s. But plenty of shoulder DJD in guys between 40-50. Tough population to treat, given the relative young age, and the amount of muscle surrounding their shoulder girdle.
You can see DCO and some impingement secondary to AC pathology, but it’s usually not overhead press, it’s mostly caused by bench press with relatively close grip and pretty heavy weight.
You can see DCO and some impingement secondary to AC pathology, but it’s usually not overhead press, it’s mostly caused by bench press with relatively close grip and pretty heavy weight.
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Yes, upright rows are probably my favorite shoulder exercise. When I do them I use dumbbells and stop at the nipple line. That seems to be the safest way to do them.Same thing when people go too high doing upright rows...it puts the shoulder in an unnatural position.
I read an article one time that said the biggest cause of shoulder injuries today is from people constantly reaching in the back seat of their cars.
I read an article one time that said the biggest cause of shoulder injuries today is from people constantly reaching in the back seat of their cars.
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
Something about his face, and facial expression, it bothers me like a mofo. I don't ''hate'' the dude, but I suffer from hypersensitivity, so some thing can bother me like you have no idea<---B.S. Applied Clinical Exercise Physiology
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
I got nothing against direct shoulder work, but when the delts start to look huge compared to the chest, then there's a problemYes, upright rows are probably my favorite shoulder exercise. When I do them I use dumbbells and stop at the nipple line. That seems to be the safest way to do them.
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Originally Posted By PrimarisIn⏩
Heavy...40s.....ok...40 lbs is not ''heavy''i saw the most gains going heavy unilaterally. 40s, usually lean forward so they hit my rear delts also.
tried both arms at the same time using 20s for high reps and felt just as much of a load.
tried both arms at the same time using 20s for high reps and felt just as much of a load.
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Originally Posted By jakobi⏩
Lmfao!you have no idea how to train....
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
same here.Yes, upright rows are probably my favorite shoulder exercise. When I do them I use dumbbells and stop at the nipple line. That seems to be the safest way to do them.
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
When your delts are too big compared to your chest
In all fairness that's not a pose meant to showcase the chest.
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
Just because you can supposedly do 60s doesn’t mean 45lbs isn’t considered heavy by most peoples standards for a working weight. It’s definitely considered up there for side raises, especially considering my body weight. Same for the other guy saying he would do 40s. When you jump in and go thats not heavy I can do 60s you come off as having an ego problem which is probably why you are red. As far as having delts that look too big for the chest I never had that problem, my shoulders are a stronger point for me than my chest but it never looked disproportionate.I got nothing against direct shoulder work, but when the delts start to look huge compared to the chest, then there's a problem
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Ugh, what? In case you didn't know it this is a variation if the ''most muscular pose''In all fairness that's not a pose meant to showcase the chest.
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
When your delts are too big compared to your chest
That’s a variation of the most muscular pose that people do to highlight their deltoid. That is why Kevin Levrone and Kai Greene would do it. I personally like the crab variation with locked hands because it highlights my traps which are my best muscle group.
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
Yes but that pose always make the chest look smaller. Do that pose right now and tell me what happens to your chest.Ugh, what? In case you didn't know it this is a variation if the ''most muscular pose''

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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
You are lucky, I have always struggled with delts that are too dominant compared to my chest and arms that are too dominant compared to my chest but I've been able to bring my chest up thanks to heavy wide grip bench presses, it was the only thing that worked for my chestJust because you can supposedly do 60s doesn’t mean 45lbs isn’t considered heavy by most peoples standards for a working weight. It’s definitely considered up there for side raises, especially considering my body weight. Same for the other guy saying he would do 40s. When you jump in and go thats not heavy I can do 60s you come off as having an ego problem which is probably why you are red. As far as having delts that look too big for the chest I never had that problem, my shoulders are a stronger point for me than my chest but it never looked disproportionate.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
I ain't gonna lie, it was in the 70s when you would see bodybuilders with monster chests, then in the 90s bodybuilders had monster delts and lagging chestsThat’s a variation of the most muscular pose that people do to highlight their deltoid. That is why Kevin Levrone and Kai Greene would do it. I personally like the crab variation with locked hands because it highlights my traps which are my best muscle group.
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To me, the whole ''big delts, small chest'' syndrome is a bit of a sensitive issue because it took me years to overcome
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Tell that to Arnold, Arnold had a massive chest no matter whatYes but that pose always make the chest look smaller. Do that pose right now and tell me what happens to your chest.

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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
A chest will always look smaller in that pose. Kinda like when a dik hits cold water...Tell that to Arnold, Arnold had a massive chest no matter what
Same thing.
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Imo, Arnold is a good role model to have because he had a big chest
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
As long as your body is growing in proportion, that's all that mattersI just do them light with 7.5 lb but triset with other shoulder exercises for each head.
For example triset of ohp, lat raise, upright row, rest, repeat twice.
Then second triset for example truck drivers, lat raise, bent over rear felt fly, rest, repeat twice.
That way I get my shoulder work done quicker because I also do chest and triceps in that same session.
For example triset of ohp, lat raise, upright row, rest, repeat twice.
Then second triset for example truck drivers, lat raise, bent over rear felt fly, rest, repeat twice.
That way I get my shoulder work done quicker because I also do chest and triceps in that same session.
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Originally Posted By QuadraQuint⏩
This is not too bad40 lbs x 10 reps
Elbows straight but elbows not locked so really they're ever so slightly bent.
But sometimes I prefer doing them 20-35 lbs.
Elbows straight but elbows not locked so really they're ever so slightly bent.
But sometimes I prefer doing them 20-35 lbs.
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Wow, great physique (the closest to perfection) perfect chest to shoulder mass ratio. Thanks for posting this picture
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Another case of ''huge delts, small chest'' syndrome
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i don't go above 20-25s
tend to stick with 15s
whats fun is doing 50 straight reps with 15s and doing reverse dropsets by going up in weight, lowering reps. total delt destruction
tend to stick with 15s
whats fun is doing 50 straight reps with 15s and doing reverse dropsets by going up in weight, lowering reps. total delt destruction
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