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Originally Posted By sam212⏩
More than impingement, shoulder DJD is an issue, especially with heavy OHP. I have seen a lot of it in middle aged muscular dudes. You hardly see cuff tears, unless they juiced. You’d see cuff tears in guys that are still lifting heavy in their 50s. But plenty of shoulder DJD in guys between 40-50. Tough population to treat, given the relative young age, and the amount of muscle surrounding their shoulder girdle.

You can see DCO and some impingement secondary to AC pathology, but it’s usually not overhead press, it’s mostly caused by bench press with relatively close grip and pretty heavy weight.
That's why I bench with a wide grip, it saves my shoulders, plus a narrow bench is just delts and triceps work, very little chest involved
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Same thing when people go too high doing upright rows...it puts the shoulder in an unnatural position.

I read an article one time that said the biggest cause of shoulder injuries today is from people constantly reaching in the back seat of their cars.
Yes, upright rows are probably my favorite shoulder exercise. When I do them I use dumbbells and stop at the nipple line. That seems to be the safest way to do them.
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post 1573068311 02-06-2019, 11:06 PM
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post 1573068401 02-06-2019, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
Yes, upright rows are probably my favorite shoulder exercise. When I do them I use dumbbells and stop at the nipple line. That seems to be the safest way to do them.
I got nothing against direct shoulder work, but when the delts start to look huge compared to the chest, then there's a problem
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post 1573068531 02-06-2019, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted By PrimarisIn⏩
i saw the most gains going heavy unilaterally. 40s, usually lean forward so they hit my rear delts also.

tried both arms at the same time using 20s for high reps and felt just as much of a load.
Heavy...40s.....ok...40 lbs is not ''heavy''
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Originally Posted By jakobi⏩
you have no idea how to train....
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
Yes, upright rows are probably my favorite shoulder exercise. When I do them I use dumbbells and stop at the nipple line. That seems to be the safest way to do them.
same here.
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When your delts are too big compared to your chest
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
When your delts are too big compared to your chest
In all fairness that's not a pose meant to showcase the chest.
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
I got nothing against direct shoulder work, but when the delts start to look huge compared to the chest, then there's a problem
Just because you can supposedly do 60s doesn’t mean 45lbs isn’t considered heavy by most peoples standards for a working weight. It’s definitely considered up there for side raises, especially considering my body weight. Same for the other guy saying he would do 40s. When you jump in and go thats not heavy I can do 60s you come off as having an ego problem which is probably why you are red. As far as having delts that look too big for the chest I never had that problem, my shoulders are a stronger point for me than my chest but it never looked disproportionate.
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
In all fairness that's not a pose meant to showcase the chest.
Ugh, what? In case you didn't know it this is a variation if the ''most muscular pose''
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
When your delts are too big compared to your chest
That’s a variation of the most muscular pose that people do to highlight their deltoid. That is why Kevin Levrone and Kai Greene would do it. I personally like the crab variation with locked hands because it highlights my traps which are my best muscle group.
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
Ugh, what? In case you didn't know it this is a variation if the ''most muscular pose''
Yes but that pose always make the chest look smaller. Do that pose right now and tell me what happens to your chest.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
Just because you can supposedly do 60s doesn’t mean 45lbs isn’t considered heavy by most peoples standards for a working weight. It’s definitely considered up there for side raises, especially considering my body weight. Same for the other guy saying he would do 40s. When you jump in and go thats not heavy I can do 60s you come off as having an ego problem which is probably why you are red. As far as having delts that look too big for the chest I never had that problem, my shoulders are a stronger point for me than my chest but it never looked disproportionate.
You are lucky, I have always struggled with delts that are too dominant compared to my chest and arms that are too dominant compared to my chest but I've been able to bring my chest up thanks to heavy wide grip bench presses, it was the only thing that worked for my chest
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
That’s a variation of the most muscular pose that people do to highlight their deltoid. That is why Kevin Levrone and Kai Greene would do it. I personally like the crab variation with locked hands because it highlights my traps which are my best muscle group.
I ain't gonna lie, it was in the 70s when you would see bodybuilders with monster chests, then in the 90s bodybuilders had monster delts and lagging chests
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To me, the whole ''big delts, small chest'' syndrome is a bit of a sensitive issue because it took me years to overcome
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Yes but that pose always make the chest look smaller. Do that pose right now and tell me what happens to your chest.
Tell that to Arnold, Arnold had a massive chest no matter what
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
Tell that to Arnold, Arnold had a massive chest no matter what
A chest will always look smaller in that pose. Kinda like when a dik hits cold water...

Same thing.
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Now this is a big chest
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Imo, Arnold is a good role model to have because he had a big chest
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
I just do them light with 7.5 lb but triset with other shoulder exercises for each head.

For example triset of ohp, lat raise, upright row, rest, repeat twice.

Then second triset for example truck drivers, lat raise, bent over rear felt fly, rest, repeat twice.

That way I get my shoulder work done quicker because I also do chest and triceps in that same session.
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Originally Posted By QuadraQuint⏩
40 lbs x 10 reps

Elbows straight but elbows not locked so really they're ever so slightly bent.

But sometimes I prefer doing them 20-35 lbs.
This is not too bad
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Wow, great physique (the closest to perfection) perfect chest to shoulder mass ratio. Thanks for posting this picture
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Another case of ''huge delts, small chest'' syndrome
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i don't go above 20-25s

tend to stick with 15s

whats fun is doing 50 straight reps with 15s and doing reverse dropsets by going up in weight, lowering reps. total delt destruction
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