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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
I'll reword what I wrote, I answered the things that you wrote that were related to the Gillette ad.I read all your responses, and you did not answer the above questions.
I pointed out the 2 good white men that literally save children in the ad.
You and other miscers still see the ad as anti white.
It's telling to me that I don't think you have seen the movie white men can’t jump, or you are triggered by the title alone.
In the movie the white dude say very non pc things about black man. ( it is one of my favourite comedies).
"White man wants to win first, and look good second. Black man wants to look good first and win second."
Film was awesome IMO, both the black and the white dude said offensive things to one another. And ended up best friends.
I think using that movie was a very bad example.
(At work posting in rush, so there likely will be bad grammar mistakes.)
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01-23-2019, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
You didn’t answer the questions. Try again:I'll reword what I wrote, I answered the things that you wrote that were related to the Gillette ad.
I pointed out the 2 good white men that literally save children in the ad.
You and other miscers still see the ad as anti white.
It's telling to me that I don't think you have seen the movie white men can’t jump, or you are triggered by the title alone.
In the movie the white dude say very non pc things about black man. ( it is one of my favourite comedies).
"White man wants to win first, and look good second. Black man wants to look good first and win second."
Film was awesome IMO, both the black and the white dude said offensive things to one another. And ended up best friends.
I think using that movie was a very bad example.
(At work posting in rush, so there likely will be bad grammar mistakes.)
I pointed out the 2 good white men that literally save children in the ad.
You and other miscers still see the ad as anti white.
It's telling to me that I don't think you have seen the movie white men can’t jump, or you are triggered by the title alone.
In the movie the white dude say very non pc things about black man. ( it is one of my favourite comedies).
"White man wants to win first, and look good second. Black man wants to look good first and win second."
Film was awesome IMO, both the black and the white dude said offensive things to one another. And ended up best friends.
I think using that movie was a very bad example.
(At work posting in rush, so there likely will be bad grammar mistakes.)
Would “Black men can’t think” movie title go over as well?
Why no Gillette ad asking women not to be gold digging whores?
Why is a corporation caught repeatedly charging women more and using child labor lecturing us on morality?
There is double standard you’re refusing to admit to.
All you got is a white guy breaking up a fight. Silly. You found one weak example and are banking on it. Beta as pluck.
01-23-2019, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
to sell razors. chicks usually the ones buying the chit.Why is a corporation caught repeatedly charging women more and using child labor lecturing us on morality?
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01-23-2019, 07:41 AM
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OP you're only mentioning the fighting and bullying aspects, in these it's more or less even, but you don't mention the sexual harassment and female empowerment bits.
White actor perving on the nurse, white guy in board room patronising woman, Terry Crews' speech, black guy at the pool party sticking up for a woman, black guy coming out of the shop stopping a white guy from justtalkingto a woman, black guy with his little daughter...
Obvious pattern is obvious.
I fully expect you to ignore this post and pick some more low hanging fruit instead, as you'll have no answer.
White actor perving on the nurse, white guy in board room patronising woman, Terry Crews' speech, black guy at the pool party sticking up for a woman, black guy coming out of the shop stopping a white guy from justtalkingto a woman, black guy with his little daughter...
Obvious pattern is obvious.
I fully expect you to ignore this post and pick some more low hanging fruit instead, as you'll have no answer.
01-23-2019, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
I’m not op but you did not ask a single question.OP you're only mentioning the fighting and bullying aspects, in these it's more or less even, but you don't mention the sexual harassment and female empowerment bits.
White actor perving on the nurse, white guy in board room patronising woman, Terry Crews' speech, black guy at the pool party sticking up for a woman, black guy coming out of the shop stopping a white guy from justtalkingto a woman, black guy with his little daughter...
Obvious pattern is obvious.
I fully expect you to ignore this post and pick some more low hanging fruit instead, as you'll have no answer.
White actor perving on the nurse, white guy in board room patronising woman, Terry Crews' speech, black guy at the pool party sticking up for a woman, black guy coming out of the shop stopping a white guy from justtalkingto a woman, black guy with his little daughter...
Obvious pattern is obvious.
I fully expect you to ignore this post and pick some more low hanging fruit instead, as you'll have no answer.
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01-23-2019, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
2 white guys saved children in the Gillette ad, please watch it again.All you got is a white guy breaking up a fight. Silly. You found one weak example and are banking on it..
The ad literally depicts the white men saving children, and yet you consider it anti white... So I don't think you have a rational perspective on this.
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Originally Posted By MichelleLnne⏩
Correct. He made statements of fact which OP cannot address/refute, because they're irrefutable.I’m not op but you did not ask a single question.
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01-23-2019, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
You are again avoiding now for their 4th time to answer:2 white guys saved children in the Gillette ad, please watch it again.
The ad literally depicts the white men saving children, and our consider it anti white... So I don't think you have a rational perspective on this.
The ad literally depicts the white men saving children, and our consider it anti white... So I don't think you have a rational perspective on this.
Where is an ad telling women not to be gold digging whores? Answer this question directly: such as “there is no such ad because x, y and z.
Would “black men can’t think or swim” movie title go over ok?
Why is a corporation lecturing men on morality?
Condenscending patronizing ad. Here male, here is how you behave: be a good man and stop kids from fighting. Good boy.
01-23-2019, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I didn’t say that I disagreed with anything he said. I just pointed out that he asked for answers but didn’t ask a single question. They could have mixed it up a bit- let all races be heroes.Correct. He made statements of fact which OP cannot address/refute, because they're irrefutable.
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01-23-2019, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Iceman1800⏩
This.Feminism used to be a war against the system that catered to men and it had some valid points. Now it's turned into a war against men in general. I shouldn't have to lower myself so a woman doesn't feel inferior. She can raise herself up instead.
Not only that but the women who are always bitching about men are the ones that are not getting laid.
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Originally Posted By MichelleLnne⏩
Yeah, they could have included women in the video in some portrayal other than as victims, but that doesn't really fit the narrative.I didn’t say that I disagreed with anything he said. I just pointed out that he asked for answers but didn’t ask a single question. They could have mixed it up a bit- let all races be heroes.
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01-23-2019, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
We seem to be in a transitory period and things are tough all over. So some women expect men to be leaders/providers and some men don't like it. And some men expect women to be supporters/caretakers and some women don't like it.I'll tell you why, because I've experienced the same thing talking to women.
I've spoken to some women about toxic female behaviour, and rather than simply acknowledge that it happens and women can be toxic, and hopefully women will stop it... They've called me sexist, "but men do XYZ", and I've even been hit.
(However, I have known some women who acknowledge that what I'm saying is accurate, and say that it bothers them. My female counsellor literally warned me the other day, when we were discussing dating, how many of her male clients complain that women want them to 'look after them' emotionally and financially, and how much of a strain it is on men's mental health.)
It's the same thing with this ad, they are calling out toxic male behaviour, and it's the same hysteria that I see from some men in response.
IMO and IME there's chitty behaviour that women tend to engage in, and chitty behaviour men tend to engage in, and I think it's a good thing to call out any the chitty behaviour.
The misc does it all phucking day with women, this ad does it to men, and the misc goes apechit.
IMO the misc can dish it out, but can't take it.
I've spoken to some women about toxic female behaviour, and rather than simply acknowledge that it happens and women can be toxic, and hopefully women will stop it... They've called me sexist, "but men do XYZ", and I've even been hit.
(However, I have known some women who acknowledge that what I'm saying is accurate, and say that it bothers them. My female counsellor literally warned me the other day, when we were discussing dating, how many of her male clients complain that women want them to 'look after them' emotionally and financially, and how much of a strain it is on men's mental health.)
It's the same thing with this ad, they are calling out toxic male behaviour, and it's the same hysteria that I see from some men in response.
IMO and IME there's chitty behaviour that women tend to engage in, and chitty behaviour men tend to engage in, and I think it's a good thing to call out any the chitty behaviour.
The misc does it all phucking day with women, this ad does it to men, and the misc goes apechit.
IMO the misc can dish it out, but can't take it.
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Those are a matter of degree IMO. Wanting to fight vs. knowing when it is worth it or the right thing to do. Encountering someone you find attractive and approaching vs. harassing or assaulting.Didnt really have a problem with it other than the boys fighting and the guy going after the girl
Like boys having test and wanting to fight doesnt seem like a bad thing. In fact, telling boys to act a certain way despite their body telling them and or producing chemicals could also seem harmful
And the guy walking after the girl thing makes me wonder how they think relationships happen. Raping her is definitely not good, but hitting on her? Nah
Like boys having test and wanting to fight doesnt seem like a bad thing. In fact, telling boys to act a certain way despite their body telling them and or producing chemicals could also seem harmful
And the guy walking after the girl thing makes me wonder how they think relationships happen. Raping her is definitely not good, but hitting on her? Nah
Came across an interesting post about toxic masculinity that essentially stated that what is labeled "toxic masculinity" actually rises up in environments where traditional masculinity is lacking. IOW it is immature bad behavior exhibited by males that haven't been shaped by positive male role models.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
You have a point.. I’m convinced. There is obviously better ways to inspire men to be better but they went out of their way to do something completely different. Instead of showing little boys fighting and a “hero” breaking it up.. they could have shown a dad spending quality time with his kid.... or a man out on a date with a woman(lol not raping her). It’s weird.. it definitely wants to depict men(white men mainly as monsters). I don’t want to get in to the race stuff but what is there is there.Yeah, they could have included women in the video in some portrayal other than as victims, but that doesn't really fit the narrative.
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01-23-2019, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted By MichelleLnne⏩
And again: where is the ad telling women not to be gold digging whores? Or to be a bitch during PMS?You have a point.. I’m convinced. There is obviously better ways to inspire men to be better but they went out of their way to do something completely different. Instead of showing little boys fighting and a “hero” breaking it up.. they could have shown a dad spending quality time with his kid.... or a man out on a date with a woman(lol not raping her). It’s weird.. it definitely wants to depict men(white men mainly as monsters). I don’t want to get in to the race stuff but what is there is there.
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
Ad is about you broski.. not me. So you might want to start working on yourself and your masculinity.And again: where is the ad telling women not to be gold digging whores? Or to be a bitch during PMS?
Muzzlpress? Will you step in please. This white man is bothering me
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Aside from the atrocious spelling and grammar, this is still the stupidest thing I've read today. Is this chick living in 1938? It's a bunch of hyperbolic stereotypes all lumped together to make women seem like some sort of unappreciated heroes while men are insensitive, selfish a**holes.Give me a break. Would throw someone with that kind of attitude to the curb faster than a bag of cat litter.
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01-23-2019, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted By MichelleLnne⏩
Double Standard. Where is the ad about you?Ad is about you broski.. not me. So you might want to start working on yourself and your masculinity.
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The reason none of you lefties can answer this is because you know there is a racist sexist agenda against whites and males. Simple as that. Admit it and move on.
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Originally Posted By rdwire88⏩
Maybe we're utterly phucked because companies are making commercials like this in the first place.You know this civilization is utterly phucked when people get highly offended over a damn commercial ad
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
You’re getting so worked up that it’s interfering with your ability to read. I’m a republican and I haven’t made a single post itt that suggests that I’m a “lefty”. I do think that you should work on your self and be betterDouble Standard. Where is the ad about you?
The reason none of you lefties can answer this is because you know there is a racist sexist agenda against whites and males. Simple as that. Admit it and move on.
The reason none of you lefties can answer this is because you know there is a racist sexist agenda against whites and males. Simple as that. Admit it and move on.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
I agree. In a large company like P&G, most of their segments or business units operate as separate entities with their own marketing and budgets. I wouldn't boycott the entire company.good luck with that. Not buying products from Proctor and Gamble is like saying you're not going to eat meat becasue you think you'll effect the bottom dollar of slaughterhouses. They make billions upon billions per year all around the world.
Worst case scenario (which is still highly unlikely) is the entire Gillette brand goes belly-up and is pulled from the market. They still have dozens of other products to keep them afloat until they rebrand their razors under some other name, and unless you regularly pay attention to company ownership of products, you wouldn't even know you're buying a P&G product. There is no escape, lol.
more to the point, it probably wasn't the best idea to promote anything that could be perceived as controversial considering all of these "$1 shave" companies popping up online eating into their bottom dollar. They're super cheap and convenient because everything gets mailed to your house. The only people that buy Gillette's overpriced razors now days are teens that just hit puberty and only have to shave once per week, so they spend half of their allowance on razors. Eventually when they have to start saving daily they start looking elsewhere for more cost effective products.
Worst case scenario (which is still highly unlikely) is the entire Gillette brand goes belly-up and is pulled from the market. They still have dozens of other products to keep them afloat until they rebrand their razors under some other name, and unless you regularly pay attention to company ownership of products, you wouldn't even know you're buying a P&G product. There is no escape, lol.
more to the point, it probably wasn't the best idea to promote anything that could be perceived as controversial considering all of these "$1 shave" companies popping up online eating into their bottom dollar. They're super cheap and convenient because everything gets mailed to your house. The only people that buy Gillette's overpriced razors now days are teens that just hit puberty and only have to shave once per week, so they spend half of their allowance on razors. Eventually when they have to start saving daily they start looking elsewhere for more cost effective products.
I'm not going to buy Gillette razors anymore. I have been an actual buyer since I turned 18 (two blade sensor excel). I've never used any other brand.
I'm not triggered either. I won't be protesting or screaming at the top of my lungs to the sky or getting shaky hands over this. I'm calmly switching brands when I'm done with my last cartridge of razors. It will be quiet. Just like my vote for Trump was quiet.
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01-23-2019, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted By MichelleLnne⏩
Nobody cares what you think. Where is the ad telling women not to be gold digging whores? Why the double standard?You’re getting so worked up that it’s interfering with your ability to read. I’m a republican and I haven’t made a single post itt that suggests that I’m a “lefty”. I do think that you should work on your self and be better
01-23-2019, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted By rdwire88⏩
Civilization is not f*cked, and people pointing out the wrongs such as this disgusting double standard racist sexist crap is certainly not bad for civilization. It only helps.You know this civilization is utterly phucked when people get highly offended over a damn commercial ad
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
Kind of true. Could be one showing women making fish lip faces and showing their ass in yoga pants on IG.Nobody cares what you think. Where is the ad telling women not to be gold digging whores? Why the double standard?
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