Experience with millennial in work

07-06-2016, 02:51 PM

-

#151

inkie77
Banned

inkie77
Banned

Join Date: Jun 2013

Age: 46

Posts: 9,202

Rep Power: 0

Originally Posted By ppself⏩

It's a small meeting. Maybe about 5-10 minutes long, if that.

Most places have people sitting apart from each other and they come together at someones desk for the scrum. Which entails the standing aspect of it.

Basically. If you can stand in the break room, farting around the water cooler talking about GOT. Then you can stand for the 5 minutes to tell people what you did the day before in scrum.

oh another meeting that could've been an email while i could be doing actual work? yeah those?

07-06-2016, 02:52 PM

-

#152

Sergis
Olympic Beer Lifter

Sergis
Olympic Beer Lifter

Join Date: Jul 2007

Location: Latvia

Age: 38

Posts: 13,334

Rep Power: 21150

Originally Posted By inkie77⏩

i'm 36 and i think standing around in a meeting is fkn retarded as well

who the fuk makes someone stand up in a meeting, do you stand there holding each others cawks taking turn sucking the bosses or what?

company sounds ****gy as fuk

agile has been THE cool methodology for quite some time now

especially cargo cult agile

straight white male and proud

fat as fuk and disgust

no hover - no enter thread crew

07-06-2016, 02:56 PM

-

#153

triglyceride
⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝ ⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠

triglyceride
⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠⎝ ⎠⎝⎠⎝⎠

Join Date: Sep 2007

Location: United States Virgin Islands

Posts: 20,523

Rep Power: 55095

you guys shouldn't bully ppl brb suing

07-06-2016, 03:08 PM

-

#154

maingains
Registered User

maingains
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2014

Age: 35

Posts: 2,365

Rep Power: 2720

Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩

Also everyone that is under 34 years old or so that you work with is also a millennial.

So most of you are old millennials dealing with the last of the younger millennials.

Anyone born after 2004 is gonna be the next gen so there is only a few more years left of the millennial master race.

what do you mean a few more years? each person born before 2004 has a very good chance of living till 2100. we have a long long time

07-06-2016, 03:11 PM

-

#155

maingains
Registered User

maingains
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2014

Age: 35

Posts: 2,365

Rep Power: 2720

Originally Posted By inkie77⏩

i'm 36 and i think standing around in a meeting is fkn retarded as well

who the fuk makes someone stand up in a meeting, do you stand there holding each others cawks taking turn sucking the bosses or what?

company sounds ****gy as fuk

scrum is very normal and popular.

the standing is to stop it from dragging on. its a quick update to help your team and such. I was at a company for almost 2 years that did scrum, we hired in a manager that would sit and scrum went from its 5 minutes to 20+ some days. the standing has a big effect on time spent in a meeting

07-06-2016, 03:15 PM

-

#156

KingSWRV
Banned

KingSWRV
Banned

Join Date: Nov 2014

Posts: 24,817

Rep Power: 0

Originally Posted By maingains⏩

what do you mean a few more years? each person born before 2004 has a very good chance of living till 2100. we have a long long time

I meant till that new kid in the office is a different generation.

I didn't mean we would be gone.

simple timeline..

Also....

I had the ceos 18 year old daughter that was assigned to me as in intern.

i am still laughing about that one. She really tried hard but i permenently contaminated he brain with my sailorly ways.

One of my proudest accomplishments to be honest.

Why they picked my i have no idea but that poor kid certainly will never be the sweet innocent thing she was when she showed up.

07-06-2016, 03:19 PM

-

#157

cadetduke
Ex Sports Card Shop Owner

cadetduke
Ex Sports Card Shop Owner

Join Date: Jun 2010

Location: Saint Louis, Missouri, United States

Posts: 13,309

Rep Power: 54109

Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩

That is, until we had our daily standup - it's 5 mins every morning where everyone gathers around to give a quick update on current work (Scrum for those familiar with software development methodologies).

I'm an application developer and would never work at a place that does this. Sounds like micromanagement. Fck that, let me work in peace. I'm with the purple hair ******* on this one.

07-06-2016, 04:10 PM

-

#158

Luc1fer

Luc1fer

Join Date: Jun 2014

Posts: 45,573

Rep Power: 685731

Originally Posted By cadetduke⏩

I'm an application developer and would never work at a place that does this. Sounds like micromanagement. Fck that, let me work in peace. I'm with the purple hair ******* on this one.

It isn't a management thing; it's a sync up for the entire team - good to know what people are working on in two sentences, or what they're blocked on. It's also productive to open up conversations between individuals after the stand-up.We do it even if the manager isn't there- amazing concept for you guys!!

𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖘𝖊 𝖆 𝖈𝖍𝖊𝖈𝕶, 𝖓𝖊𝖛𝖊𝖗 𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖘𝖊 𝖆 𝖇𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍

█▓▒▒░░🧵Make trolls invisible: https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=180234573 ░░▒▒▓█

07-06-2016, 04:12 PM

-

#159

ppself
R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution

ppself
R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution

Join Date: Apr 2006

Posts: 21,882

Rep Power: 39877

Originally Posted By inkie77⏩

oh another meeting that could've been an email while i could be doing actual work? yeah those?

It takes less time to say something, than to read a email chain.

Just like it would have taken me less than 5 minutes to explain SCRUM methodology to you. Rather than wait 3 hours for our back and forth to actually flourish.

It also promote team building. It helps the engineers to get out of their FA shells and communicate with others.

My team would also let different people lead the SCRUM, so they can get a feel of leadership roles. See if they shine in that area for advancement.

It gets people out of a meeting room and just meet in a cube or the break room.

"Don't be envious when the grass is greener on the other side because you don't know how much crap it took to fertilize that ground.�

Are you ready? "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.� (John 8:24).

07-06-2016, 05:37 PM

-

#160

Luc1fer

Luc1fer

Join Date: Jun 2014

Posts: 45,573

Rep Power: 685731

Originally Posted By inkie77⏩

oh another meeting that could've been an email while i could be doing actual work? yeah those?

Email! haha

𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖘𝖊 𝖆 𝖈𝖍𝖊𝖈𝕶, 𝖓𝖊𝖛𝖊𝖗 𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖘𝖊 𝖆 𝖇𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍

█▓▒▒░░🧵Make trolls invisible: https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=180234573 ░░▒▒▓█

07-06-2016, 08:42 PM

-

#161

cadetduke
Ex Sports Card Shop Owner

cadetduke
Ex Sports Card Shop Owner

Join Date: Jun 2010

Location: Saint Louis, Missouri, United States

Posts: 13,309

Rep Power: 54109

Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩

It isn't a management thing; it's a sync up for the entire team - good to know what people are working on in two sentences, or what they're blocked on. It's also productive to open up conversations between individuals after the stand-up.We do it even if the manager isn't there- amazing concept for you guys!!

My teams have always talked to each other, we don't need a scrum to do it. My manager might have called a team meeting every two weeks or so but we already knew what each of us were doing and if someone was stuck they'd try to figure it out first then ask someone else in the group. But for half of my 10 years developing I was part of a special development team that worked closely with the CEO of a financial institution and the last 5 years working with a team of 4 as the only .NET developer. A lot of us have been in each other's weddings also because we're not just coworkers.

07-06-2016, 08:56 PM

-

#162

deltbrah
Registered User

deltbrah
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2008

Age: 40

Posts: 9,689

Rep Power: 2881

you boss sounds like a wank, and so does the team of kiss asses.

I remember working at a place where they required daily "huddles" where we would stand around while the manager talked about **** that could have been sent in an email. The worst bit was when they made us put our hands in together like a sporting team and yell "GOOO TEAM!" before we went back to our desks. Which these Kiss asses(like OP) lapped up, to try to get a promotion.

I refused to do it and quit, after the second meeting. (I actually played sports so i found this totally demeaning to any sports team that uses this for motivation and togetherness) we are software engineers, not Manchester United ffs.

rather be unemployed tbh then have to go through that

The'll never get huge arms with crossfit! ~ Clive

http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=160432981&p=1212608741&viewfull=1#post1212608741

07-06-2016, 08:58 PM

-

#163

Luc1fer

Luc1fer

Join Date: Jun 2014

Posts: 45,573

Rep Power: 685731

Originally Posted By cadetduke⏩

My teams have always talked to each other, we don't need a scrum to do it. My manager might have called a team meeting every two weeks or so but we already knew what each of us were doing and if someone was stuck they'd try to figure it out first then ask someone else in the group. But for half of my 10 years developing I was part of a special development team that worked closely with the CEO of a financial institution and the last 5 years working with a team of 4 as the only .NET developer. A lot of us have been in each other's weddings also because we're not just coworkers.

That's fine. If your team is small.

Don't worry guys, we'll stop doing the standup if it becomes ineffective or unproductive. I promise!!

𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖘𝖊 𝖆 𝖈𝖍𝖊𝖈𝕶, 𝖓𝖊𝖛𝖊𝖗 𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖘𝖊 𝖆 𝖇𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍

█▓▒▒░░🧵Make trolls invisible: https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=180234573 ░░▒▒▓█

07-06-2016, 09:03 PM

-

#164

MrAWatts
Cellphone elitist

MrAWatts
Cellphone elitist

Join Date: Apr 2009

Location: Dallas, Texas, United States

Age: 38

Posts: 23,428

Rep Power: 132228

Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩

That's fine. If your team is small.

Don't worry guys, we'll stop doing the standup if it becomes ineffective or unproductive. I promise!!

LMAO right because you have any say in that whatsoever. You are one of the little pre-k codemonkeys being cucked by the bossman like a bunch of baby back bitches, just LMAO!!!!!

535 deadlift.
*If you can't lift it without straps you can't lift it crew
*Morrowind is the best game of all time crew
*Double everything Chipotle Crew
*Style crew
*Sig line can't be a novel crew

07-06-2016, 09:06 PM

-

#165

deltbrah
Registered User

deltbrah
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2008

Age: 40

Posts: 9,689

Rep Power: 2881

Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr⏩

I asked one of the millennials at my work to take on an extra responsibility. The millennial refused and said it wasnt part of their job.

A new managing job opened a few months later and the millennial applied. The millennial did not get the job and wanted an explanation

I let the millennial know that the they lacked the skills required for the position and that the responsibilities they refused a few months prior would have given them the skills they would have needed for the position. I wasnt being vindictive but rather 100% truthful.

The millennial just Bert stared me without saying a word. I'm not sure they ever connected the dots....

sounds like you were just being a butthurt prick.

if he could have picked up the skills through extra responsibility in a few months, then he would have obviously been capable to pick up the management job responsibilities

The'll never get huge arms with crossfit! ~ Clive

http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=160432981&p=1212608741&viewfull=1#post1212608741

07-06-2016, 09:14 PM

-

#166

bzman
Registered User

bzman
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2010

Location: Ontario, Canada

Age: 38

Posts: 2,606

Rep Power: 188

Originally Posted By deltbrah⏩

you boss sounds like a wank, and so does the team of kiss asses.

I remember working at a place where they required daily "huddles" where we would stand around while the manager talked about **** that could have been sent in an email. The worst bit was when they made us put our hands in together like a sporting team and yell "GOOO TEAM!" before we went back to our desks. Which these Kiss asses(like OP) lapped up, to try to get a promotion.

I refused to do it and quit, after the second meeting. (I actually played sports so i found this totally demeaning to any sports team that uses this for motivation and togetherness) we are software engineers, not Manchester United ffs.

rather be unemployed tbh then have to go through that

Okay that GOOO TEAM part does sound gay, but the scrum meetings themselves are quite useful, no?

You have the quick 5-10 minute stand up to avoid the long meetings during the bulk of the work day.

Its like a regular meeting just a quicker one around someones desk not a big deal, I think tht's OPs point

**ALPHA CREW**

07-06-2016, 09:22 PM

-

#167

Scrizzle
Ain't Even FUKCING MAD!

Scrizzle
Ain't Even FUKCING MAD!

Join Date: Feb 2010

Location: Chicago, Illinois, United States

Age: 36

Posts: 16,409

Rep Power: 53131

Originally Posted By Wisop⏩

Jesus. I hope the boss has the right to sack him on the spot, Damien Lewis in Billions style. There's still such a thing as insubordination.

I don't get the whole millenials thing. I mean I agree, but I wasn't in a war, and relatively pretty much had a silver spoon in my ass compared to people in the 60s, but I still get completely blown away by these actual humans who kick and scream about everything they 'deserve'.

I can't understand why it's the modern thing to be so against self improvement or earning anything. It pissen.

This. What happened to pick your battles. He's at fukcing work and his superior asked him to do something. He gets paid to comply. Given the fact that he gave the biggest fight over something as simple as "stand up" why the fukc would they hire him or keep him employed. Why trust him with any responsibility since he seems to have it in his head that he can be openly insubordinate like that? He thinks he fukcing knows it all and can pick and choose what he wants to do? He's there to do what he's fukcing told.

Hope his bitch ass gets fired.

Originally Posted By deltbrah⏩

sounds like you were just being a butthurt prick.

if he could have picked up the skills through extra responsibility in a few months, then he would have obviously been capable to pick up the management job responsibilities

Why the fukc would he get the job over someone who puts in more effort at work? Assuming it was down to him and a few other candidates he's not doing himself any favors by not showing initiative at work. He didn't want to do the extra work and that's fine. However don't bitch and moan when you didn't get that promotion you wanted.

07-06-2016, 09:44 PM

-

#168

Luc1fer

Luc1fer

Join Date: Jun 2014

Posts: 45,573

Rep Power: 685731

Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩

LMAO right because you have any say in that whatsoever. You are one of the little pre-k codemonkeys being cucked by the bossman like a bunch of baby back bitches, just LMAO!!!!!

Bro, you would get on your knees and beg me for a job. My base salary alone is over double yours.

If I saw your smug little face on LinkedIn I'd immediately classify you as an arrogant little ****tard though and reject your application.

𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖘𝖊 𝖆 𝖈𝖍𝖊𝖈𝕶, 𝖓𝖊𝖛𝖊𝖗 𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖘𝖊 𝖆 𝖇𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍

█▓▒▒░░🧵Make trolls invisible: https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=180234573 ░░▒▒▓█

07-06-2016, 09:45 PM

-

#169

yabbayabba

yabbayabba

Join Date: Jun 2005

Location: Burning down the belt warehouse

Posts: 19,040

Subscribers: 2

Rep Power: 157908

Originally Posted By cadetduke⏩

My teams have always talked to each other, we don't need a scrum to do it. My manager might have called a team meeting every two weeks or so but we already knew what each of us were doing and if someone was stuck they'd try to figure it out first then ask someone else in the group. But for half of my 10 years developing I was part of a special development team that worked closely with the CEO of a financial institution and the last 5 years working with a team of 4 as the only .NET developer. A lot of us have been in each other's weddings also because we're not just coworkers.

It's not just for your team, it is for everybody who is outside the circle. Sounds like you and your buddies know what they are doing but nobody else outside your group knows nor do you know what they are doing. Instead of taking five minutes to jerk off around the coffee machine you have a standup and the entire company (or division or group or whatever) knows what is going on. Maybe for your setup it doesn't matter so much. But business software is boring and doesn't change very much. I'm the technical director/manager for a game studio. The 10 minutes it takes to go through a standup I know what all of my people are working on and if they are blocked by anything. It would take me longer then 10 minutes to talk to all of them individually. And since making games is a creative endeavor there are artists, QA, and production people inside (and outside) the circle. Knowing what they are doing makes doing our job much easier. Especially if tech is blocked on art or design it can be brought up to be dealt with after the standup.

07-06-2016, 10:19 PM

-

#170

NotARotter
Registered User

NotARotter
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2016

Age: 30

Posts: 499

Rep Power: 276

Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩

This reminds me of my soccer team. So our sort of team initiation thing we did was that all freshman and transfer players had to choose a girl from the girls soccer team (we all traveled together for conference games), and serenade them. So I went first my year, of course, and I had to serenade a girl in front of both teams and coaches, plus half of olive garden.

It was all in fun though. And the girls did the same thing so they would serenade us. We we all nervous af, etc. The thing was, it was tradition. For 25 years this tradition was done. And when you finished it was all fun and games and you had a great story to joke about.

Well the next year a kid complained, having his parents call the athletic department. We had to stop the tradition because some boner was being a pussy. We weren't told who, but we know who it was. He quit anyways.

The point is, like your company, it is part of the team/company. It is their company, and they can uphold and do what they want. It was productive. And yet these little pricks think they are too cool for being part of a team/company. Yea maybe not everything is awesome or fun or something you want to do, but you do it anyways. You are an employee, not a CEO, manager, etc. Everyone else does it.

It frustrates me to no end hearing and seeing all of these kids. Bunch of entitled, disgraceful children

That kid is a beta ******* for calling his parents,but your tradition sounds retarded brah.
Would not act like a retard just because "people did it for 25 years" lmao. Peer pressure and traditions means nothing to me

07-06-2016, 10:35 PM

-

#171

Killerflect
Banned

Killerflect
Banned

Join Date: Nov 2014

Location: United States

Posts: 2,225

Rep Power: 0

Sucks man, *******s like those give us other young brahs bad rep

07-06-2016, 10:35 PM

-

#172

Freek314
Banned

Freek314
Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

Age: 37

Posts: 11,929

Rep Power: 0

Originally Posted By Scrizzle⏩

Why the fukc would he get the job over someone who puts in more effort at work? Assuming it was down to him and a few other candidates he's not doing himself any favors by not showing initiative at work. He didn't want to do the extra work and that's fine. However don't bitch and moan when you didn't get that promotion you wanted.

This is what a shtty manager sounds like. All they can think about is "what are you gonna do for me?" instead of "who will benefit the team more in this position?".

Employees do not owe you extra work. They owe you the work they agreed to do for the money your bosses agreed to pay them. Stop trying to pawn off your work to them, then act like a kunt when they don't want to do your goddamned job for less money.

07-06-2016, 10:36 PM

-

#173

buildingbrah
Banned

buildingbrah
Banned

Join Date: Oct 2014

Age: 43

Posts: 2,170

Rep Power: 0

Originally Posted By ppself⏩

It takes less time to say something, than to read a email chain.

Just like it would have taken me less than 5 minutes to explain SCRUM methodology to you. Rather than wait 3 hours for our back and forth to actually flourish.

It also promote team building. It helps the engineers to get out of their FA shells and communicate with others.

My team would also let different people lead the SCRUM, so they can get a feel of leadership roles. See if they shine in that area for advancement.

It gets people out of a meeting room and just meet in a cube or the break room.

it's fuking stupid; deal with it

07-07-2016, 01:00 AM

-

#174

deltbrah
Registered User

deltbrah
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2008

Age: 40

Posts: 9,689

Rep Power: 2881

Originally Posted By Scrizzle⏩

Why the fukc would he get the job over someone who puts in more effort at work? Assuming it was down to him and a few other candidates he's not doing himself any favors by not showing initiative at work. He didn't want to do the extra work and that's fine. However don't bitch and moan when you didn't get that promotion you wanted.

then give him the legit reason why he didnt get hired - "You didnt show initiative to do more work when you were asked and therefore we are looking for someone who shows more motivation and goes beyond what is required of them"

instead of "you lacked the skills to be able to do this, which you could have learnt in 2 months if took on that extra responsibility we asked you to do"

yeah retard if it takes 2 months to get that skill, its obviously not a difficult job and the guy would have picked it up easy

The'll never get huge arms with crossfit! ~ Clive

http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=160432981&p=1212608741&viewfull=1#post1212608741

07-07-2016, 01:15 AM

-

#175

Aggressive
Registered User

Aggressive
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2008

Location: South Wales, United Kingdom (Great Britain)

Posts: 18,052

Rep Power: 38196

What pisses me off the most about this is you'd have older candidates who would fukin KILL for the opportunity that brat had and put 120% into it. Yet its the no-respect younger generation of entitled twats first in line.

We have enslaved the rest of the animal creation, and have treated our distant cousins in fur and feathers so badly that beyond doubt, if they were able to formulate a religion, they would depict the Devil in human form.

~ William Ralph Inge

07-10-2016, 08:05 AM

-

#176

StevieSparkZ
< 1k Posts/Year Crew

StevieSparkZ
< 1k Posts/Year Crew

Join Date: Apr 2004

Location: United States

Age: 41

Posts: 3,826

Rep Power: 10599

For those who agree with the intern/milennial/purple haired guy/etc....

Is this honestly the reason why? (srs)

I really think so, as most people's favorite subject is themselves, or it's at least higher on their list of things that they like.....

A small loan of 1 bitcoin........

United States Marine Corps (2003-2009)
0351

07-10-2016, 08:16 AM

-

#177

LiberalBoss
Banned

LiberalBoss
Banned

Join Date: Jul 2016

Age: 38

Posts: 17

Rep Power: 0

That kid is alpha as fuk and will achieve more than OP ever will.

Why would he listen to your arbitrary rules that dont affect the companys productivity AT ALL. If your chef wasnt so insecure and trying to assert dominance (which he failed with) and instead focus on his job, he could increase his companys efficiency. The bosses always want yes-sayers like OP, because they can easily be exploited and never talk back.