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Thread: Crazy how DIET is the most/sole important thing to bodyfat levels

post 1457542083 08-14-2016, 08:41 AM
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It's CICO

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post 1457542103 08-14-2016, 08:41 AM
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Thanks for this revelation in the obvious, OP.
post 1457542133 08-14-2016, 08:42 AM
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this thread is the dumbest thing I've ever read. it is proven that for humans, your metabolism is mostly the same. It comes down to calories in vs calories out. That's pretty much it. It has also been proven that people who are overweight underestimate their caloric intake and overestimate their activity levels. Your metabolism is a simple math problem.

it also isn't surprising that the construction worker (high activity levels) is saying it is all genetic.
It's also not surprising that eating clean is lower calorie, therefore it may lead you to believe that that's the only way to be in shape.
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actually HIIT is the most important thing, with my 20 page paper due last week i didnt have time to do my HIIT and even on a 2200 cal diet i didnt lose any weight this week when ive lost 7lbs over the previous 3 weeks
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Originally Posted By bbsitum⏩
Genetics 80%, aerobics (running, work construction) 15%, diet 5%. However different people different situation. Diet is completely insignificant to me.
Originally Posted By bbsitum⏩
I never watched what I eat and never had any fat. So it is genetic thing. I understand that different people have different genetics. It is well known at this forum that lifting will not help you loose fat. You need aeorobic exercises.
No shredded ab pics in either avi. "Genetics".



Originally Posted By AyyBrah⏩
genetics to an extent yes. But for example I'm very sensitive to carbs and fats. They have to be lowered for me to be shredded and have that jawline of piss. But still the same principle applies. DIET is very underrated and literally the only thing stopping majority of people from slaying srs.
How low do you go on fat grams per day? Most posters here say 100g a day minimum.
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post 1457542843 08-14-2016, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
actually HIIT is the most important thing, with my 20 page paper due last week i didnt have time to do my HIIT and even on a 2200 cal diet i didnt lose any weight this week when ive lost 7lbs over the previous 3 weeks
Nope

Calorie intake, expenditure and progressive overload of weights are the cliffs to bodybuilding and looking good

Theres not one tool like HIIT, clean eating, keto that is the answer
post 1457543193 08-14-2016, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted By SeymourGains⏩
Nope

Calorie intake, expenditure and progressive overload of weights are the cliffs to bodybuilding and looking good

Theres not one tool like HIIT, clean eating, keto that is the answer
What he doesn't realize, is that the HIIT burned more calories. If he had adjusted his intake, he still would have lost weight without it.
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post 1457543213 08-14-2016, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted By bbsitum⏩
I never watched what I eat and never had any fat. So it is genetic thing. I understand that different people have different genetics. It is well known at this forum that lifting will not help you loose fat. You need aeorobic exercises.
Unless someone has a disease like hypothyroid (which can lower metabolic rate as much as 40%) genetics/inherent chit don't mean chit, all human metabolism is very close. Energy expenditure is the main question mark, some people are constantly moving all day either because of job or even just fidgeting around in their seat and others are basically in a coma all day. It's all about energy intake. No need to even do cardio or move around, just eat less.
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post 1457543493 08-14-2016, 08:58 AM
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2016 and people are still trying to act like there's more to this equation than calories in and calories out.

Its really that simple folks. No style of training or diet has any distinguishable influences in this matter.

You eat more than maintenance, you gain weight, you eat less, you lose weight.
post 1457543993 08-14-2016, 09:03 AM
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Boneless wings are just chicken tenders/nuggets with sauce drenched on them. They aren't wings.
post 1457544343 08-14-2016, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted By Cytomegalovirus⏩
Boneless wings are just chicken tenders/nuggets with sauce drenched on them. They aren't wings.
This
post 1457544593 08-14-2016, 09:10 AM
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calories in calories out. but i notice that keeping calories constant, eating healthy wholesome foods gives me a glow
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well you could eat as much as you wanted depending on how hard you work out
post 1457544723 08-14-2016, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted By iceypain⏩
calories in calories out. but i notice that keeping calories constant,eating healthy wholesome foods gives me a glow
I noticed this too srs. And keeping sugars/sodium low, get them ab/oblique vains of piss.

That's life son.
Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
well you could eat as much as you wanted depending on how hard you work out
Bullchit.
post 1457544773 08-14-2016, 09:12 AM
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Just gotta find some calorie level or cardio level or eating schedule or whatever that works and be consistent

It doesn't matter if it's IF or HIIT or just CICO or whatever
post 1457544903 08-14-2016, 09:14 AM
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Genetics determine how strict you have to be with diet

Skinny teens born with abs who claim to be "hard gainers" don't know how lucky they have it to never have to cut body fat. They can lift to build a solid foundation then jump on dat dere and they will look like gods
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post 1457545143 08-14-2016, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Ripper908⏩
Genetics determine how strict you have to be with diet

Skinny teens born with abs who claim to be "hard gainers" don't know how lucky they have it to never have to cut body fat. They can lift to build a solid foundation then jump on dat dere and they will look like gods
If you were to follow those guys and watch/record every single thing they eat/drink you would see why they are that way. They think they are eating a lot but really are always under 2k calories. You force feed them 3500-4k with the same amount of activity and they'll put on weight.


Off topic but just came across this pic, had to share it somewhere

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post 1457545203 08-14-2016, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
How low do you go on fat grams per day? Most posters here say 100g a day minimum.
LOL at 100g. I'm currently taking in like 200-300g and gaining weight fast. 100g is bulking for me. Towards the end of my cut which was like 2 weeks ago my fat was at 53ish grams a day.
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Originally Posted By bbsitum⏩
Proved by me and countless other people that worked with me.What you think will happen when you work 1 month straight outside in hot weather.
well if you're in a caloric surplus you'll gain weight, if you're in a deficit you'll lose weight or if you're at maintenance you will stay the same...its all about calories in and calories out...you could do cardio 12 hours a day, but if you're taking in more calories then you are burning you will still gain weight...
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Originally Posted By bbsitum⏩
I never watched what I eat and never had any fat. So it is genetic thing. I understand that different people have different genetics. It is well known at this forum that lifting will not help you loose fat. You need aeorobic exercises.
I don't think it's genetics. Research showed that something like 90% of people's metabolism falls within 400 calories

You're over 200 lbs and do construction work and lift so your metabolism is fire
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
What he doesn't realize, is that the HIIT burned more calories. If he had adjusted his intake, he still would have lost weight without it.
2200 cal is already about a 1k deficiet for me so even without HIIT i should have lost lbs but it wasnt significant like when i do HIIT which has been proven to burn fat and retain muscle, while a cal deficiet can lead to more muscle loss
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
2200 cal is already about a 1k deficiet for me so even without HIIT i should have lost lbs but it wasnt significant like when i do HIIT which has been proven to burn fat and retain muscle, while a cal deficiet can lead to more muscle loss
if you didn't lose the same amount of weight then 2200 isn't a 1k deficit and/or you aren't factoring in the amount of calories lost from HIIT.

don't try to over complicate this lol. of course you aren't going to lose the same amount of weight eating 2200 when you aren't factoring in cardio activity
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Originally Posted By BearTactics⏩
this thread is the dumbest thing I've ever read. it is proven that for humans, your metabolism is mostly the same. It comes down to calories in vs calories out. That's pretty much it. It has also been proven that people who are overweight underestimate their caloric intake and overestimate their activity levels. Your metabolism is a simple math problem.
this

most people have no ****ing clue how many calories they burn in a typical day, though. and a lot of those who try to lose tons of weight in a short window can **** with their metabolism
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
2200 cal is already about a 1k deficiet for me so even without HIIT i should have lost lbs but it wasnt significant like when i do HIIT which has been proven to burn fat and retain muscle, while a cal deficiet can lead to more muscle loss
Also gotta keep in mind fat loss isn't perfectly linear. Could easily just be in a stall phase for a week.

Also you must be very active cause my TDEE is around 2700.
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Originally Posted By iifymbro⏩
Also gotta keep in mind fat loss isn't perfectly linear. Could easily just be in a stall phase for a week.

Also you must be very active cause my TDEE is around 2700.
water weight, sodium, toilet etc you have to take into account too. just a week before I stopped cutting literally id have days where my weight would go up a pound but I'd look leaner. That's why it's best to weigh yourself every day but take the weight at the end of every week as your weight. Even then it's tricky but that's life.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
2200 cal is already about a 1k deficiet for me so even without HIIT i should have lost lbs but it wasnt significant like when i do HIIT which has been proven to burn fat and retain muscle, while a cal deficiet can lead to more muscle loss
You aren't arguing with us, you are claiming that your body violates the laws of thermodyanmics

Go to MIT to be studied immediately since your body is apparently unique among 7 billion


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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
How low do you go on fat grams per day? Most posters here say 100g a day minimum.
lol don't listen to them
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Same. Been injured out of the gym and binge eating the last week

Feel like rotting
"One day I won't be able to lift any more. Not I won't want to lift. I mean physically unable. That day could be decades from now or it could be tomorrow. All I know is that's the day I'll wish I could lift more than ever. The day I'd give anything for one more workout, one more set, or one more cardio session. So go hard and enjoy every workout, every set, every rep. Because one day you will wake up and you will never get it back."
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Same. Been injured out of the gym and binge eating the last week

Feel like rotting
Ayyyy das not it. I'm binge eating because I'm bulking now and don't give a single fuark about bodyfat levels. Trying to progress in the big 3 and get strong. But must suck being injured, hope you recover asap.
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Originally Posted By JRJester⏩
if you didn't lose the same amount of weight then 2200 isn't a 1k deficit and/or you aren't factoring in the amount of calories lost from HIIT.

don't try to over complicate this lol. of course you aren't going to lose the same amount of weight eating 2200 when you aren't factoring in cardio activity
you are missing the point, dieting just accounts for total mass lost which is fat+ muscle, HIIT is a way to lose fat without losing the muscle. A high intensity HIIT can burn fat and your diet can still add muscle. When i was in the police academy i was doing 6miles of 400m sprints almost everyday as a road guard. I was 165lbs at 10%bf going into the academy i ended at 190 and probably around 7%bf. HIIT is much better for overall fat loss than just dieting
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