Heres more from another forum.. quickly looked up throws on concrete. Guarantee its deadly force:

"When I opened my e-mail this morning I received the following video from a buddy who runs the local MMA school here in town. He sent it to a bunch of people saying how people need to not loose control in a match or people get hurt, I agree. Start watching around the 4 minute mark. Before you do I would like to mention a few things.

This is obviously a match situation.
Both guys know it is a match and nobody is going to kill them.
There is no chance of weapons being involved.
There is no chance of multiple attackers.
The contest takes place on a padded surface.
There are no vertical surfaces to be slammed into.
By nature of the contest the guy thrown was likely expecting something like it and had trained to defend/counter it.
The "victim" had nothing on his waistband to concentrate force to increase injury.
The "victim" was automatically protected by the referee and others.
After the throw the fight was over, without the "victim" having to defend himself.

OK, here is the video.
YouTube - HUGE illegal KO slam!!


When I was in HS I watched the same thing happen to a buddy while he was wrestling for the state championship. He was knocked out cold, woke up and decided to continue. He won.

If you have never played Judo, Ju Jitsu, or any arts that contain throws you cannot fully comprehend what it means to be picked up off your feet and slammed to the mat as a matter of training. When my daughter was younger she was a two time MD State Judo Champion. She did it for about 7 yrs from 5-12. She learned it so young that it is ingrained and I have seen her throw boys much bigger than her just playing around. She also knows how to control it and pull through so they don't smash their heads.

Be honest with your self, have you ever been thrown? Not taken down, not knocked to the ground, but picked up and slammed on the ground. Given all the things that I mentioned be for the video, look how our "victim" ended up. How do you think you respond if the same happened to you on concrete while wearing street clothes really giving the attacker something to hold on to, and stuff on your belt to "break" your fall.

I am interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this and if they consider it deadly force.-"

" I've been tossed a few times, even when expecting it, if you mess up your landing it's going to jar you. The taller your opponent is, the more it's going to hurt.

I would consider it deadly force as the following most certainly applies.
...create a substantial risk of causing, death or serious bodily harm., if you land on your head or any other object, or just get smacked really good on the ground, that can cause serious bodily harm or death."

I think you are a little to committed to this thread brah lol

lol at saying he should have hold her or restrain her, is he supposed to do that all day? like she would have calm down if he did, she would have keep screaming and kicking, and he probably didn't want to smash her that hard, he didn't expected for her fly like a ragdoll
crazy how a ****ty video of two degenerates fighting can cause such controversy

This is what 15 year-olds look like now?

The girl threw the first punch but that doesn't matter, dude is gonna get fkked in court.

If you wanna risk going to jail and potentially killing someone because of a few slaps to the face by a pathetically weak girl then go for it. I would've just restrained her. If she tries to knee you in the nuts well then you have full license to do whatever the fuk you want imo.

The video evidence is quite damning, even though some say he "neutralized the situation". I hope for his sake, nothing really bad happens to him (eg. assault charges)

Alternate way of dealing with this -

If it was me? Tell her to piss off (again) off my property, and to leave me alone.

If she starts trying to hit (as she did), slap away her hands and walk inside the house. She still going ape-chit outside? Call the fkn police and remove the animal

The cops would be on YOUR SIDE here



We agree on something for once

I'm not too sure about American laws re: this, but in Australia... you can legally do this.

The video evidence shows her instigating EVERYTHING. Sure, she wanted him to apologise about whatever (beginning), but that's not the point. You can't lawfully handle some random argument with violence.

Lol if you think she would just let you walk away after slapping her hand and telling her to piss off. She's already going ape chit over words anyway. When he tried to grab her so she would stop pushing/slapping she said "don't fuking touch me" and continued to try and attack him (she even kicked him lmao). She wouldn't have just let you walk away.

Btw I believe the cops cleared him of any wrong doing and gave him authority to press charges against her. He didn't.


Also I love the fact how no one tried to stop it until he finally took action. Now everyone wants to be tough guy.

Lol if you think she would just let you walk away after slapping her hand and telling her to piss off. She's already going ape chit over words anyway. Wh]en he tried to grab her so she would stop pushing/slapping she said "don't fuking touch me" and continued to try and attack him (she even kicked him lmao). She wouldn't have just let you walk away.

Jezus christ you guys are such poosies

I HAVE BEEN ON THE SIDE OF AN UNRULY FEMALE

IT WAS VERY EASY TO HANDLE. I DIDNT DROP HER AND I WASNT CHARGED

Why risk it?

WOWWWWWW

IMO that's debatable. Yeah she hit him when he told her to go.

She wouldn't have let you walk away? It's his property, and if he turned his back on her, I'd be surprised to see her kick and punch him as he walked away. Even at that, who gives a fuk? Women are weak as chit, and he would have reached into his front door, and closed it on her ass



Good



Bystander effect

Saw this one on the ******** everybody taking the girls side and saying **** that guy up and all that, but they had cut out the part where she was attacking him. lol liberal social media for you

What I saw

-Girl is yelling and swearing in a threatening manor
-Boy calmly tells her to leave his property
-Boy starts walking BACKWARDS
-Girl starts swinging, throws a stomach kick
-Boy slams her to the ground

Not sure what he did wrong here boyos. Stay safe beckys.

What I saw

-Girl is yelling and swearing in a threateningmanor
-Boy calmly tells her to leave his property
-Boy starts walking BACKWARDS
-Girl starts swinging, throws a stomach kick
-Boy slams her to the ground

Not sure what he did wrong here boyos. Stay safe beckys.

You're the only triggered poosy in this damn thread lmao. I don't give a fuk how many times you've had to deal with an unruly female, if the man wants to body slam her because she attacked him then good for him. Let me guess, just hold her until she calm down right? Just go inside and call the cops? Just walk away? Lmao gtfoh saying what he did was wrong. Not every situation you can leave without getting your hands dirty. In this case she went after him, he tried holding her, she then kicked him as he was trying to stop her, he then body slammed her.


You'd be surprised??? She obviously don't give a damn if his property or not. If she did she wouldn't have came up to him and got aggressive. It doesn't matter if women are weak, a good punch can still give you a black eye, broke nose, or some broken bones. Not to mention if she were to grab an item. Was he suppose to wait until these things happen?

Manor

It's pretty disgusting that you guys think it's ok for him respond like that. Concrete on head = possibility for permanent brain trauma. A lot worse than a few slaps from her. He's a lot bigger than her and didn't have to slam her like that. I would be saying the same thing if it was another dude who was slammed to the ground headfirst like that instead of a girl. I hope the guy serves jail time, we don't need people like this in our society.

I said punching her in the face is fine. Would be reasonable force imo

Reasonable force aint taking a female without a weapon by the body and throwing her on her head. If she was trying to grab his body and throw him.. fine

Inb4 he carressed her head. Makes a lot of sense. "I subdued her by carressing her"

It's pretty disgusting that you guys think it's ok for him respond like that. Concrete on head = possibility for permanent brain trauma. A lot worse than a few slaps from her. He's a lot bigger than her and didn't have to slam her like that. I would be saying the same thing if it was another dude who was slammed to the ground headfirst like that instead of a girl. I hope the guy serves jail time, we don't need people like this in our society.

LOL wat?

Brb punch her face
Brb her head hits the pavement
Brb knock her into seizure
Brb still stuck in the same situation

He body slammed her because when he tried to hold her hands, she started to kick. He figured there was no other way to subdue her. He thought on his feet.

Yea.. thats justified imo

"Self defense" means you met force upon you with reasonable force

She was throwing hands/ slapping, so i dont think punching her in the face is unreasonable force. Maybe that chit could still get turned into manslaughter

I think he very seriously crossed the line into deadly force to kill/injure the second he picked up her body to throw it to the grouns

Rather it's a punch to the face or a body slam, the outcome would be the same. Her on the ground having a seizure while everyone makes him out to be the bad guy. Maybe even more for actually punching her. Not to mention if that one punch doesn't take her out, he'll have to throw multiple punches, which will make the situation look even worse.