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post 1482129521 02-04-2017, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
How the FUK can anyone possibly be against temporarily suspending muj from immigrating here until we fix the undeniably broken vetting system? Just when I think I see it all, liberal cucks blow my mind. Literally insane.

Also lmfao at these cucks citing what Trump's doing is against the Constitution (umm non-citizens don't have rights) but have no problem butt fuking the Second Amendment.
the argument I see most seems to only apply to refugees that are undergoing "extreme" vetting already
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Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
The P320 won because of the external safety. I'd be willing to bet on that.
Doubt that was the only reason. Glock would have put safeties on theirs for a contract that big.

I'm 99.99% sure it came down to one thing - who was the cheapest.
post 1482130401 02-04-2017, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Adarus⏩
I try and do my homework before I buy something usually. I'm actually reading up on FFP vs SFP scopes right now.
Some days I regret not getting a FFP. It just depends on how much you think you'll be using the different magnification settings. If you get a low enough powered scope that you think you'll always have it at max power when you're shooting far enough to hold over, then I would think a SFP would be just fine.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Doubt that was the only reason. Glock would have put safeties on theirs for a contract that big.

I'm 99.99% sure it came down to one thing - who was the cheapest.
You can build a Glock cheaper than a P320. That is a fact. They have far less variance across their product offerings so tooling changes, assembly capacity, supplier lead times, are all pretty consistent and offer an economy of scale that would be difficult to maintain when you add in our entire classic line, our single action guns, and our rifle production.

This isn't me trying to claim the P320 is a better gun, that's an individual preference thing, but it is more expensive to build. Glock is notorious for bottom dollar contracts. I have heard some pretty low numbers thrown around.

That said, if they looked at adding a manual safety and found it would add significant cost to their current production, that might have driven their bid up. So I could be totally wrong. Just throwing my opinion out there.
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Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
How the FUK can anyone possibly be against temporarily suspending muj from immigrating here until we fix the undeniably broken vetting system? Just when I think I see it all, liberal cucks blow my mind. Literally insane.

Also lmfao at these cucks citing what Trump's doing is against the Constitution (umm non-citizens don't have rights) but have no problem butt fuking the Second Amendment.
NOT IN THE P.M. BRO.... Rustled supremely by the cucksters wanting to allow full constitutional rights to non-citizens without work visas.

BRB JUST ADMIT YOU WANT SUPER GLOBALIST GOVERNMENT CUCKS
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post 1482133521 02-04-2017, 12:46 PM
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Got a chance to shoot the p320 subcompact, way too small for my large palms.
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Originally Posted By rtm0004⏩
the argument I see most seems to only apply to refugees that are undergoing "extreme" vetting already
I've seen dems and people in general arguing against the whole thing. Regardless, I think the whole system needs to be reviewed under this new administration. Especially these economic migrants, not refugees.
Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Doubt that was the only reason. Glock would have put safeties on theirs for a contract that big.

I'm 99.99% sure it came down to one thing - who was the cheapest.
The Army already has a pretty large contract with Glock for several different models, but with no external safeties. I think the main factor was the safety. The Army has spent way more money in recent years on other weapon systems than this one, I don't think that was the deciding factor.
Originally Posted By hutch1999⏩
NOT IN THE P.M. BRO.... Rustled supremely by the cucksters wanting to allow full constitutional rights to non-citizens without work visas.

BRB JUST ADMIT YOU WANT SUPER GLOBALIST GOVERNMENT CUCKS
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post 1482136001 02-04-2017, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By ChaoticReignPbt⏩
You can build a Glock cheaper than a P320. That is a fact. They have far less variance across their product offerings so tooling changes, assembly capacity, supplier lead times, are all pretty consistent and offer an economy of scale that would be difficult to maintain when you add in our entire classic line, our single action guns, and our rifle production.

This isn't me trying to claim the P320 is a better gun, that's an individual preference thing, but it is more expensive to build. Glock is notorious for bottom dollar contracts. I have heard some pretty low numbers thrown around.

That said, if they looked at adding a manual safety and found it would add significant cost to their current production, that might have driven their bid up. So I could be totally wrong. Just throwing my opinion out there.
Just because it can be made cheaper, doesn't mean Glock was willing to go cheaper for the contract.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Just because it can be made cheaper, doesn't mean Glock was willing to go cheaper for the contract.
Entirely true, but I have heard some ridiculously low numbers (sub $200) for big enough contracts. At the end of the day they're both great guns. Could have gone either way. I was genuinely surprised we got it after Glock picked up so many other recent contracts.
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I wouldn't carry a gun with an external safety. If SHTF I want to point and shoot.
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Originally Posted By spirit750⏩
Some days I regret not getting a FFP. It just depends on how much you think you'll be using the different magnification settings. If you get a low enough powered scope that you think you'll always have it at max power when you're shooting far enough to hold over, then I would think a SFP would be just fine.
Looking at the new Viper PST models it seems they're only going to have a FFP option. But I'm completely new to shooting any kind of distance so I'm on the fence on if I should go ahead and spend the extra money now to get a FFP vs buying a SFP then possibly wanting to upgrade later.

The fact that I filed our taxes this morning and know what I'm getting back doesn't help any.
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post 1482138901 02-04-2017, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
I've seen dems and people in general arguing against the whole thing. Regardless, I think the whole system needs to be reviewed under this new administration. Especially these economic migrants, not refugees.
the problem is that people are lumping them all into one category of "immigrants" - the ones that jumped the border or are otherwise herely ILLEGALLY vs the ones that were vetted and waited years to come

edit: I should say one of the problems
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post 1482141221 02-04-2017, 01:45 PM
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First time cleaning and lubing the canik, haven't used it but there is a lot of carbon? It's supposedly new, does all this look normal?







much easier time cocking the gun now, but the slide release is still a bish, I always feel like my finger will get caught between the slide because of how much thumb I need to use to cover the dang slide release and push on it.
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post 1482141541 02-04-2017, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By ChaoticReignPbt⏩
Entirely true, but I have heard some ridiculously low numbers (sub $200) for big enough contracts. At the end of the day they're both great guns. Could have gone either way. I was genuinely surprised we got it after Glock picked up so many other recent contracts.
I'm telling you, it all boiled down to the external safety.

Whether Glock could have added one or not is irrelevant because they didn't submit one with an external safety while Sig did.
Originally Posted By rtm0004⏩
the problem is that people are lumping them all into one category of "immigrants" - the ones that jumped the border or are otherwise herely ILLEGALLY vs the ones that were vetted and waited years to come

edit: I should say one of the problems
Trump is actually doing what needs to be done in regards to immigration. We must know every person coming here.
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post 1482142401 02-04-2017, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
Trump is actually doing what needs to be done in regards to immigration. We must know every person coming here.
I have no issue with it; just passing along arguments I've heard

and people seem to be overlooking the limited time frame also
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post 1482142851 02-04-2017, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
I'm telling you, it all boiled down to the external safety.

Whether Glock could have added one or not is irrelevant because they didn't submit one with an external safety while Sig did.

The expert in military acquisitions chimes in.
post 1482160331 02-04-2017, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
How the FUK can anyone possibly be against temporarily suspending muj from immigrating here until we fix the undeniably broken vetting system? Just when I think I see it all, liberal cucks blow my mind. Literally insane.

Also lmfao at these cucks citing what Trump's doing is against the Constitution (umm non-citizens don't have rights) but have no problem butt fuking the Second Amendment.



The P320 won because of the external safety. I'd be willing to bet on that.
I just think it's dumb how everyone is up in arms about this, when every president in the last 30 years has banned immigration to some degree similar. I also facepalm at some people who try to tell me the constitution applies to EVERYONE.

Wasn't an external safety one of the main requirements to be considered? Regardless, I don't like them on my guns but it's definitely a good idea for the Army. Can't imagine the amount of NDs that would happen if there was no safety on the new pistol which you know everyone will be playing and waving around with as soon as they come in.
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New 870s - junk?

I bought a 590 that ended up having issues with light strikes. Ditching that POS and need a new shotgun.
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Originally Posted By Wakaaa⏩
First time cleaning and lubing the canik, haven't used it but there is a lot of carbon? It's supposedly new, does all this look normal?







much easier time cocking the gun now, but the slide release is still a bish, I always feel like my finger will get caught between the slide because of how much thumb I need to use to cover the dang slide release and push on it.
bump pls respond, I'm going nuts thinking someone else besides the protocol factory shooting was done
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post 1482164191 02-04-2017, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Wakaaa⏩
bump pls respond, I'm going nuts thinking someone else besides the protocol factory shooting was done
Prob dirty ammo
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
New 870s - junk?

I bought a 590 that ended up having issues with light strikes. Ditching that POS and need a new shotgun.
Mossberg 500 still master race while remington has been sorting out their qc issues for the last decade. Their receivers are still ok though
Originally Posted By Wakaaa⏩
bump pls respond, I'm going nuts thinking someone else besides the protocol factory shooting was done
Might wanna check caniks protocol of handguns that come fresh off the assembly line. They might shoot a whole mag through them. Maybe not and you just bought a used handgun. It will be hard to prove you didn't shoot it yourself to whoever the seller was

Is there any wear on the feed ramp or on the inside part of the slide?
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
New 870s - junk?

I bought a 590 that ended up having issues with light strikes. Ditching that POS and need a new shotgun.
870's are still great. A few cheap upgrades and they are all I personally need in a shotgun.
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Sheet that sucks. And here I thought I could have my cake and eat it too. Fuk'em then.
Be very very careful with this stuff....we may seriously regret the day that we let the Federal Government have a proverbial dog in this fight
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Originally Posted By OrificeSpunk⏩
Mossberg 500 still master race while remington has been sorting out their qc issues for the last decade. Their receivers are still ok though



Might wanna check caniks protocol of handguns that come fresh off the assembly line. They might shoot a whole mag through them. Maybe not and you just bought a used handgun. It will be hard to prove you didn't shoot it yourself to whoever the seller was

Is there any wear on the feed ramp or on the inside part of the slide?
Wait...Remington is the one with the QC issues? Have you followed what happened with Moss's semi-autos?
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Originally Posted By OfficerJimLahey⏩
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Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
How the FUK can anyone possibly be against temporarily suspending muj from immigrating here until we fix the undeniably broken vetting system? Just when I think I see it all, liberal cucks blow my mind. Literally insane.

Also lmfao at these cucks citing what Trump's doing is against the Constitution (umm non-citizens don't have rights) but have no problem butt fuking the Second Amendment.

The P320 won because of the external safety. I'd be willing to bet on that.
The majority of liberals would rather have weekly terrorist attacks in this country than to appear "intolerant" (whatever the phuck that means).
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I'm ready for it to be mine turn now for a monster LS that sounds like this at the 1:15 mark.

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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
I'm ready for it to be mine turn now for a monster LS that sounds like this at the 1:15 mark.

It's more fun than you think and sounds 100x better in person, videos never do that justice, trust me. You probably know that, but yeah

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