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post 1490389331 04-09-2017, 06:47 AM
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Anyone here ever looked into Crypto Arbitrage Trading? Is it already saturated? If it wasn't for the fact I most likely can't in my work contract, I'd be cranking open Python and giving it a bash.
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long breakout or buy the 61.8 dip.

bonds not going away, that's for sure.
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Reading an article that is incredibly bullish on TSLA's earnings that come out May 2nd and anticipates Elon revising up this year's loss per share to $-1.63 from $-2.87 for 2017 AND next years earnings to aPOSITIVE$2.41 a share in profit. Those numbers seem unfathomable when taking into account the companies debt load(servicing), revenue, and past performance.

I am trying to decide if Musk is going to make the numbers work, or if tooling the factory will prove to be too expensive to hide. When Ford shifted its truck production to aluminum bodies they took something like a 2 billion dollar hit to change out their lines. People with TSLA positions or watching closely are you anticipating a big miss in May or do you think shares will spike post earnings? I think my plan is to start a position similar to Slamt's at the end of April and build it up through May/June. The market at large is due for a short/small correction anyway which could cut significantly into TSLA's market capitalization, but I think it is going to take some disappointing model 3 numbers to really shake the leaves outta the tree. I can see a huge spike on news/rumors of decent sales numbers of the model 3 and an epic tank when people see how little profit there is to be had selling electric cars. Perhaps I am wrong though.

Also I can't wait to see the stress lots of people having electric cars puts on our ancient power grids. I'd love to invest in a company that does the power grid chit. Meanwhile I am well positioned to cash in on low fuel prices thanks to lower demand and high truck volume.

EDIT: Jun16 puts look legit. 235-230 strike aren't terribly expensive, and looking at the charts I think it could be reasonable to see a 30% pull back depending on sentiment and of course the market at large. If you look at the last 3 years usually a big peak and a big bottom are separated by 2 months. Just gotta nail the timing
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Bullish retail. Watching gap maybe pick up more dsw.

Amazon killing everything is a load of horse chit. As if women and twinks are going to stop wasting money on cloths. Lol. Just lol.

Source: gut feels.
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Amazon is a hoax invented by wallstreet to make retail appear non competitive.
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post 1490474961 04-09-2017, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M
Reading an article that is incredibly bullish on TSLA's earnings that come out May 2nd and anticipates Elon revising up this year's loss per share to $-1.63 from $-2.87 for 2017 AND next years earnings to aPOSITIVE$2.41 a share in profit. Those numbers seem unfathomable when taking into account the companies debt load(servicing), revenue, and past performance.

I am trying to decide if Musk is going to make the numbers work, or if tooling the factory will prove to be too expensive to hide. When Ford shifted its truck production to aluminum bodies they took something like a 2 billion dollar hit to change out their lines. People with TSLA positions or watching closely are you anticipating a big miss in May or do you think shares will spike post earnings? I think my plan is to start a position similar to Slamt's at the end of April and build it up through May/June. The market at large is due for a short/small correction anyway which could cut significantly into TSLA's market capitalization, but I think it is going to take some disappointing model 3 numbers to really shake the leaves outta the tree. I can see a huge spike on news/rumors of decent sales numbers of the model 3 and an epic tank when people see how little profit there is to be had selling electric cars. Perhaps I am wrong though.

Also I can't wait to see the stress lots of people having electric cars puts on our ancient power grids. I'd love to invest in a company that does the power grid chit. Meanwhile I am well positioned to cash in on low fuel prices thanks to lower demand and high truck volume.

EDIT: Jun16 puts look legit. 235-230 strike aren't terribly expensive, and looking at the charts I think it could be reasonable to see a 30% pull back depending on sentiment and of course the market at large. If you look at the last 3 years usually a big peak and a big bottom are separated by 2 months. Just gotta nail the timing
Sounds good. At 30 percent pullback I might pick some up.

Unlike ford the people that buy teslas can actually afford it.
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post 1490475411 04-09-2017, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M
Also I can't wait to see the stress lots of people having electric cars puts on our ancient power grids. I'd love to invest in a company that does the power grid chit. Meanwhile I am well positioned to cash in on low fuel prices thanks to lower demand and high truck volume.
Me too, would definitely look at a few regional utility/energy guys like DUK and XEL. If CHK can manage to survive up to that point, with their current stock price...oh lawd.
Originally Posted By WhAtNoWbChSs
Bullish retail. Watching gap maybe pick up more dsw.

Amazon killing everything is a load of horse chit. As if women and twinks are going to stop wasting money on cloths. Lol. Just lol.

Source: gut feels.
As someone who only shops on Amazon for things I either cannot get at a brick & mortar, or can get it much cheaper online, I kind of agree. But that might just be me. For things like clothes I'll almost never go on Amazon, I'm too impatient to wait for shipping unless the Retail Deathstar w/ drones becomes a reality.
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post 1490506161 04-10-2017, 08:20 AM
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Got in this morning at the 235 strike for 2.10 each. I think the last bit of news today will be it for awhile. Buy the rumor sell the earnings
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post 1490512891 04-10-2017, 09:19 AM
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AM Action today looks kinda like Wednesday's action.

TSLA/AMZN ramping hard along with mkts after some shake out from previous days.

They used minutes and the last 2 hours to drop everything, Yellen on the mic here today at 1:00PM or something too.

TSLA dropped 10pts that afternoon after huge runup. just sayin

i am still long TLT and short TSLA
Originally Posted By RobParks2M
Got in this morning at the 235 strike for 2.10 each. I think the last bit of news today will be it for awhile. Buy the rumor sell the earnings
Right on, I mean if we're wrong at least we didn't short $100, $200 ago, that's the positive.

Inb4TSLA doubles in price.
post 1490528491 04-10-2017, 11:32 AM
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TSLA breaking out to new highs on big volume, textbook growth/momentum stock.
post 1490540841 04-10-2017, 01:07 PM
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Yellen on the mic after close, just lovely.

I closed out all my TLT calls here, bought some FCX calls.

Think bonds will see some weakness short term, but I still love the long term weekly look. Want a big pull to sweep up some calls lower.
post 1490542311 04-10-2017, 01:19 PM
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Wow strong profits today.

Can we get another hysterical sell off in retail this week. I wanna BTD.
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post 1490542821 04-10-2017, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By badbart
TSLA breaking out to new highs on big volume, textbook growth/momentum stock.
Classic time for pullback due to inability to pump stawk any harder. Musk has pumped tsla to climax about to get sticky up in dat bish
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post 1490544641 04-10-2017, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M
Classic time for pullback due to inability to pump stawk any harder. Musk has pumped tsla to climax about to get sticky up in dat bish






post 1490547331 04-10-2017, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted By badbart






Long otm naked put @200.

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Well while I get creamed on SPY puts at least my Vanguard is mega bullish in the highest risk/reward US funds.
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I'm about to drop 30k on Tesla stocks, not even kidding.... I honestly have very limited knowledge of these kinds of things and just made an account with Ameritrade.

Lmao I'm fkn crazy, but I've been eyeing it and it just keeps going up and up.
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Originally Posted By sebackers
I'm about to drop 30k on Tesla stocks, not even kidding.... I honestly have very limited knowledge of these kinds of things and just made an account with Ameritrade.

Lmao I'm fkn crazy, but I've been eyeing it and it just keeps going up and up.
See even the janitor of universal studios is putting his life savings in TSLA. If this isn't a Joe Kennedy moment I don't know what is. Not srs ayyy

But srs just lol at making an account specifically to dump all of your investing money into 1 company that has existed for 10 years and has yet to make money.
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Originally Posted By sebackers
I'm about to drop 30k on Tesla stocks, not even kidding.... I honestly have very limited knowledge of these kinds of things and just made an account with Ameritrade.

Lmao I'm fkn crazy, but I've been eyeing it and it just keeps going up and up.
hahahaha
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After further analysis I think I've decided not to do it, I'm not fully committed. I really want to, and I think a lot of people keep on doubting this stock and they're wrong. I saw a couple threads here about this stock from a fear years ago or so and someone else though about dropping a bunch of money and damn near everyone talked chit, and now look. Seems like a chit ton of investors keep doubting it and they've been wrong BIG TIME.
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Originally Posted By sebackers
After further analysis I think I've decided not to do it, I'm not fully committed. I really want to, and I think a lot of people keep on doubting this stock and they're wrong. I saw a couple threads here about this stock from a fear years ago or so and someone else though about dropping a bunch of money and damn near everyone talked chit, and now look. Seems like a chit ton of investors keep doubting it and they've been wrong BIG TIME.
wait until it dips maybe brah.... might take awhile.
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M
See even the janitor of universal studios is putting his life savings in TSLA. If this isn't a Joe Kennedy moment I don't know what is. Not srs ayyy

But srs just lol at making an account specifically to dump all of your investing money into 1 company that has existed for 10 years and has yet to make money.
That's literally how I started trading.
Traded Tesla from 210 to 240 and felt invincible. Made some other positive trades on the NYSE and went on to lose half my money in OTC stocks lol.
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Originally Posted By sebackers
After further analysis I think I've decided not to do it, I'm not fully committed. I really want to, and I think a lot of people keep on doubting this stock and they're wrong. I saw a couple threads here about this stock from a fear years ago or so and someone else though about dropping a bunch of money and damn near everyone talked chit, and now look. Seems like a chit ton of investors keep doubting it and they've been wrong BIG TIME.
can smell the fomo in this post

do it brah

go all in
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Originally Posted By sebackers
I'm about to drop 30k on Tesla stocks, not even kidding.... I honestly have very limited knowledge of these kinds of things and just made an account with Ameritrade.

Lmao I'm fkn crazy, but I've been eyeing it and it just keeps going up and up.
Save yourself some aggravation and pyramid in. For example buy 50% of you position and add 10%-25% very 5%-10% until you have your full position. This way if your wrong your loss is smaller and if your right the stock goes up you have a profit cushion.
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i'd like to start investing for the longer term. where do you boyos suggest i start looking/reading? i can't put too much away at the moment, but i should be able to begin increasing it soon. i've no debts other than a mortgage, but would like to retire sooner than at the moment i'm on course to.

the guy above mentioned tesla which got me thinking about elon musk... in the sense that i've heard of him, know what he looks like and sort of what he has done. however, watched a couple of videos on the guy and his journey seems incredible - very noble. what a guy. not that i think tesla would be a good investment from what little i do know about stocks and shares. although if he was raising money for another company he was CEO of, it would definitely grab my attention.

thanks fellas.
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Originally Posted By pushlimits
i'd like to start investing for the longer term. where do you boyos suggest i start looking/reading? i can't put too much away at the moment, but i should be able to begin increasing it soon. i've no debts other than a mortgage, but would like to retire sooner than at the moment i'm on course to.

the guy above mentioned tesla which got me thinking about elon musk... in the sense that i've heard of him, know what he looks like and sort of what he has done. however, watched a couple of videos on the guy and his journey seems incredible - very noble. what a guy. not that i think tesla would be a good investment from what little i do know about stocks and shares. although if he was raising money for another company he was CEO of, it would definitely grab my attention.

thanks fellas.



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Is there an etf that directly mirrors the price of oil?

(like GLD but for oil)

Is it USO or is there a better one?
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pulled the trigger. 200 shares of CVE. Looking for a quick swing. 16 I'm out most likely.
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you can find a pdf online if you look hard enough
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Originally Posted By WhAtNoWbChSs
Is there an etf that directly mirrors the price of oil?

(like GLD but for oil)

Is it USO or is there a better one?
USO is the one, but it does have contango so it won't match /CL directly.
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