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post 1506623731 05-31-2017, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
64? Good stuff. Now we wait for prices and benchmarks.
Lol I immediately imagined you jumping when they said 64 lanes!
Still suck that Vega will be announced end of July though.

Am I the only one who thought that there are screen tearing or artifacts when they are trying to demo a game on threadripper and 2x Vega at 4k? Or it might just be some lighting or like camera flash effect.

I'm excited to see the 2in1s & laptios with Ryzen and Vega on board though. That's ROG laptop looked good too.
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Originally Posted By jinda628⏩
Lol I immediately imagined you jumping when they said 64 lanes!
Still suck that Vega will be announced end of July though.
Intel has lost their everloving minds with this $999 for the cheapest CPU with 44 lanes. Below that they're kneecapping you down to 28. What a crock. Their CPU's have literally doubled in price since the i7 launched (for the top end). No reason for this. The i7 980x was $999. No reason for the new top tier to be $1999. AMD better price their **** competitively so I can support them this time around. I don't want to spend $1000 for a "middle of the road" CPU.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Intel has lost their everloving minds with this $999 for the cheapest CPU with 44 lanes. Below that they're kneecapping you down to 28. What a crock. Their CPU's have literally doubled in price since the i7 launched (for the top end). No reason for this. The i7 980x was $999. No reason for the new top tier to be $1999. AMD better price their **** competitively so I can support them this time around. I don't want to spend $1000 for a "middle of the road" CPU.
Crazy to think cpus are now as much as a mid tier system build.
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Originally Posted By eXistenceLies⏩
Crazy to think cpus are now as much as a mid tier system build.
I had hoped that the launch of Ryzen would force them to rethink their pricing schemes, but so far it doesn't look like it. I normally buy something in the $600 range to get the 40+ lanes, but this time around they're screwing me over and moving that # of lanes up to the $999+ price point. I'm not paying $400 more every time I upgrade my CPU. ****'s unwarranted. I hope Threadripper rips them a new one, and they're given no choice but to slash prices to stay relevant.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I had hoped that the launch of Ryzen would force them to rethink their pricing schemes, but so far it doesn't look like it. I normally buy something in the $600 range to get the 40+ lanes, but this time around they're screwing me over and moving that # of lanes up to the $999+ price point. I'm not paying $400 more every time I upgrade my CPU. ****'s unwarranted. I hope Threadripper rips them a new one, and they're given no choice but to slash prices to stay relevant.
Would love to own that 18 core/36 thread chip, but at $2k.....Eek!!! They need price fixing big time.
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Originally Posted By eXistenceLies⏩
Would love to own that 18 core/36 thread chip, but at $2k.....Eek!!! They need price fixing big time.
The general rule of thumb is that every year, you can fit 2x as much silicon on a chip for the same price. Dies shrink, costs don't change really very much. There's no reason for a 100% price hike at the top end in ~7 years. It's pure greed, but AMD hasn't offered a challenge really since the days of the Athlon 3700+ vs the Pentium 4, so Intel has been able to get away with whatever they've wanted to charge. Really hoping Threadripper makes Skylake-X/Kabylake-X a flop to force Intel to get their mind right.
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Originally Posted By eXistenceLies⏩
Crazy to think cpus are now as much as a mid tier system build.
For the average user there is very little correlation between CPU cost and perceived system performance. For the average user enough ram and a fast SSD are going to be everything on any CPU from the last few generations.

The only thing I ever do that has unlimited thread hunger is GUI DISM and converting between ESD and WIM.

I will be very interesting to see what game devs can do with more threads. In 3 years will the average game actually be closing in on 2X performance going from 4(8) cores to 8(16) cores?
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I had hoped that the launch of Ryzen would force them to rethink their pricing schemes, but so far it doesn't look like it. I normally buy something in the $600 range to get the 40+ lanes, but this time around they're screwing me over and moving that # of lanes up to the $999+ price point. I'm not paying $400 more every time I upgrade my CPU. ****'s unwarranted. I hope Threadripper rips them a new one, and they're given no choice but to slash prices to stay relevant.
As usual, Intel CPUs core for core is clocked higher than their AMD counterparts. I think that's how Intel justify their prices. Thinking their benchmark will be about 5-10% better than AMD so let's double the price or at least be 50% more expensive than AMD.

But seriously, if the 8c/16t 7820X will really be $599, that's 33% more expensive than the cheapest 1800X you can get right now at $449. That's $150 for an extra 0.5 Ghz boost clock. Both have 3.6Ghz base min. clock. How much room for OC do we think the 7820X have after being clocked that high? Considering its TDP is already at 140W compared to 1800X's 90W.
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Originally Posted By jinda628⏩
As usual, Intel CPUs core for core is clocked higher than their AMD counterparts. I think that's how Intel justify their prices. Thinking their benchmark will be about 5-10% better than AMD so let's double the price or at least be 50% more expensive than AMD.

But seriously, if the 8c/16t 7820X will really be $599, that's 33% more expensive than the cheapest 1800X you can get right now at $449. That's $150 for an extra 0.5 Ghz boost clock. Both have 3.6Ghz base min. clock. How much room for OC do we think the 7820X have after being clocked that high? Considering its TDP is already at 140W compared to 1800X's 90W.
For me to bother upgrading from my i7 5930k, I'm going to want to gain at least 4 cores. 2 cores is too incremental and wouldn't be that noticeable in video editing. I want to move up to at least 10 cores, 12 would be pretty ideal. Basically i want to double my cores..If the 12 core Threadripper offers the 64 lanes it's supposed to, and costs ~$600-750 I'll probably try to make that happen.
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
7820x wholesale price will be $599. fuark. may actually be able to get what I wanted.

why would anyone buy this instead of r7 1700?
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Any recommendations for a small portable mouse that has extra buttons and works on any surface?

Something like this but with extra buttons:

https://www.amazon.com/Jelly-Comb-Wi...086e431dafaf05

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Originally Posted By KilaByte⏩
Any recommendations for a small portable mouse that has extra buttons and works on any surface?

Something like this but with extra buttons:

https://www.amazon.com/Jelly-Comb-Wi...086e431dafaf05

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Originally Posted By PositiveCrew⏩
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All of the Korean 40" 4ks are amazing

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Originally Posted By Kermeli⏩
why would anyone buy this instead of r7 1700?
10 cores with a 4.5 ghz turbo speed implies that a delid and high end cooling could get you to ~5.0 ghz.

10 cores at the speed would be amazing at anything the average enthusiast would want to do, but as you implied, at a price.

Over all though I think you are right. For the average user that will simply build and run @ stock the priceerformance is not in question.

BTW, there is a delid vid of these new chips already and the TIM is yet again absolute crap.

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Originally Posted By https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6egyxv/ryzen_threadripper_vs_ryzen_7_1700_blender_test/dia86h9/
The latest version of Blender was released at the end of February, and it appears to have had differences in rendering speeds. If the TR and initial Ryzen reveal are directly comparable then we're looking at a core clock of 3.4GHz x (8 cores / 16 cores) x (25.09s / 13.04s) = 3.1GHz.

1600X can do all-core boost to 3.7GHz, so that would imply the TR is at 3.7GHz x (6 cores / 16 cores) x 32.06s / 13.04s = 3.4GHz.

1700 stock can do all-core boost to 3.2GHz, which would imply that the TR is at 3.2GHz x (8 cores / 16 cores) x 24.17s / 13.04s = 3.0GHz.

I'd also found a stock 1700 taking 28.46s on definitely the latest Blender (2.78c), implying a TR clock of 3.2GHz x (8 cores / 16 cores) x 28.46s / 13.04s = 3.5GHz - if they weren't using an older, slower Blender, that is (but why would they in a performance demo?).
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
In the "related to this product section":

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0118QERRG?psc=1
Didn't see that one for some reason.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to InstantLoser again.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
10 cores with a 4.5 ghz turbo speed implies that a delid and high end cooling could get you to ~5.0 ghz.

10 cores at the speed would be amazing at anything the average enthusiast would want to do, but as you implied, at a price.

Over all though I think you are right. For the average user that will simply build and run @ stock the priceerformance is not in question.

BTW, there is a delid vid of these new chips already and the TIM is yet again absolute crap.

the 4.5ghz is not all core turbo clock right?

No way it ever goes 5ghz with air atleast.
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Originally Posted By Kermeli⏩
the 4.5ghz is not all core turbo clock right?

No way it ever goes 5ghz with air atleast.
Turbo is based on loaded cores so you are correct, 4.5 will be the max for low thread load.

On air, 100% correct. With a delid, conductonaut and AIO, we will see.

My suspicion is that if craptacular TIM gets you 4.5 on a core or 2 while stock then significantly better cooling and more voltage should make 5.0 possible.
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hey brahs, i have a noob question

so... ive decided to finally build a gaming pc but im tryna keep my budget to around $1,000 or so (give or take a few hundred)

what im wondering is... would it be possible to include a gtx 1080 in this build or would that require me to skimp out too much on the rest of the parts?




i was originally considering a build like this:



but instead, swapping the 1600x & cooler for the regular 1600 (with the stock cooler), and maybe look for cheaper parts will opting for a 1080 instead of a 1070.

would this be possible or is it just wishful thinking on my part? sorry if this is a super noob question but honestly i have no idea what the fuk im doing cuz this is my first gaming pc (srs)

any help would be appreciated srszzz (pls halp, im tryna get out of the console poverty race and become a pc master racer once and for all)
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When were vega cards originally supposed to be released when people started hearing about them awhile back? It seems like they have been talked about forever now. I hope they live up to the hype
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Originally Posted By butwhowasfeel⏩
hey brahs, i have a noob question

so... ive decided to finally build a gaming pc but im tryna keep my budget to around $1,000 or so (give or take a few hundred)

what im wondering is... would it be possible to include a gtx 1080 in this build or would that require me to skimp out too much on the rest of the parts?




i was originally considering a build like this:



but instead, swapping the 1600x & cooler for the regular 1600 (with the stock cooler), and maybe look for cheaper parts will opting for a 1080 instead of a 1070.

would this be possible or is it just wishful thinking on my part? sorry if this is a super noob question but honestly i have no idea what the fuk im doing cuz this is my first gaming pc (srs)

any help would be appreciated srszzz (pls halp, im tryna get out of the console poverty race and become a pc master racer once and for all)
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/paulsh...JVQ7P?ref=paul

Is this the build? You could save some $ on the RAM and a few bucks off the PSU and try tofind a nice used 1080 for around 400 if you only had 1000. Doesnt look like to much room to save on everything else they are all pretty cheap options already besides just finding the right deals.

I feel like RAM prices shot up since I built my pc 6 months ago. I bought 16gb vengeance lpx 3000 for $84 lol

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Originally Posted By FFailed⏩
When were vega cards originally supposed to be released when people started hearing about them awhile back? It seems like they have been talked about forever now. I hope they live up to the hype
Even if they don't, at least AMD is currently on fire with Ryzen and the upcoming Thread Ripper CPU's. I'm like 95% sure I'm jumping ship from Intel once I see the prices & benchmarks. Intel has lost their minds with their pricing, and I'm not paying $1000+ just to keep above 40 PCI Express lanes.
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Vega was supposed to be released with Prey (the game).

And I think AMD will do another homerun if they release it under $999 USD.
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Originally Posted By MrJensenn⏩
Vega was supposed to be released with Prey(the game).

And I think AMD will do another homerun if they release it under $999 USD.
where did AMD say this?
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Originally Posted By MrJensenn⏩
Vega was supposed to be released with Prey (the game).

And I think AMD will do another homerun if they release it under $999 USD.
Why would Vega be over $999? It should be under $700, and under $550 if it's not as fast as a 1080. No reason it should ever have been over $999.
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hey guys i am currently in an conundrum with my graphics card and wanted some input

so i basically spent a good amount recently on the other part of my rig (1700x yada yada)

I bought a 3gb 1060, which i have an opportunity to still return and bought it basically as a placeholder for vega

as of right now i only have a 1080 p monitor and only play games like battlegrounds, i get decent FPS but i think its pointless for me to have spent so much on the rest and put a kind of ****ty graphics card in there.


So, my thought was to return the 1060 and get either a 580 or a gtx 1080 on a deal. My buddy said it would be stupid for me to get the 1080 and not the TI version, but as of right now i dont plan on additionally upgrading my monitor. So the really only option is to upgrade the 1060 to something that i would be happy with in the 4 to 500 range that would last a while until i was ready to upgrade the monitor as well.

as for vega, i dont think at this point it is even worth waiting, especially if i am only gaming in 1080p in the near future, but wanted some thoughts on that.
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Originally Posted By SwaggerMcdaniel⏩
hey guys i am currently in an conundrum with my graphics card and wanted some input

so i basically spent a good amount recently on the other part of my rig (1700x yada yada)

I bought a 3gb 1060, which i have an opportunity to still return and bought it basically as a placeholder for vega

as of right now i only have a 1080 p monitor and only play games like battlegrounds, i get decent FPS but i think its pointless for me to have spent so much on the rest and put a kind of ****ty graphics card in there.


So, my thought was to return the 1060 and get either a 580 or a gtx 1080 on a deal. My buddy said it would be stupid for me to get the 1080 and not the TI version, but as of right now i dont plan on additionally upgrading my monitor. So the really only option is to upgrade the 1060 to something that i would be happy with in the 4 to 500 range that would last a while until i was ready to upgrade the monitor as well.

as for vega, i dont think at this point it is even worth waiting, especially if i am only gaming in 1080p in the near future, but wanted some thoughts on that.
How much did you pay for the 1060? The 580 is only a little better than that as I think its basically just a slight higher clocked 480, so if its the same/cheaper than maybe go for it. The 1080 is in a whole different league than a 580. I never played battlegrounds before but I made a mining rig with 470s just recently and messed around with one in my main PC swapping my 1080 out and it was more than fine in overwatch/LoL at 1080p but im assuming that game might require a better card than those. I was tempted to just get rid of my 1080 and keep a 470 in my main computer as it was a MSI Gaming X and imo is 10x more aesthetic than this evga square brick looking turd 1080 I have lol.

An rx 470/480/570/580 card is a bit hard to come by atm too with the mining frenzy and everyone buying them up. People are buying 470/480s for like $300-400 on ebay its nuts.
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Originally Posted By SwaggerMcdaniel⏩
So, my thought was to return the 1060 and get either a 580 or a gtx 1080 on a deal.
580 is not really a huge upgrade from 1060. If you are really waiting to see what Vega has to offer then you dont really need to upgrade yet. 1060 is more than enough for 1080P gaming.

Also I doubt you can find any new AMD cards this time since its all out-of-stock due to miners.
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Also I doubt you can find any new AMD cards this time since its all out-of-stockdue to miners.
I bet Vega will FLY off shelves as a result. Doesn't even matter if it's that great for gaming (compared to 1080/1080 Ti), they'll be the best mining GPU's available. When the 290x launched, I got 2 on the opening day. About 2 months later, I sold them for $100 more per card than I paid retail to some Bitcoin miners.
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I paid like 160 i think after rebate, its the smaller card (3gb). i think the 580 is like a hundred more?

I dont think battlegrounds is super intensive.

I feel like i should just hold on to this card because i really didnt pay THAT much for it, and if i ever decided to do a mini build or just have a spare gpu lying around it wouldnt hurt.
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