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Thread: Millennial unemployment is at 11.5% . . . nearly triple the total U.S. unemployment

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Originally Posted By Jacwald⏩
is there a day in your life when you dont mention the word liberal or Marxist?
Wow focus on other things bro, why dont you study anatomy instead?
When you clown *******s stop trying to ruin the western world, I'd gladly stop talking about it.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
When you clown *******s stop trying to ruin the western world, I'd gladly stop talking about it.
you are wasting your life no wonder you falsely call yourself a loser. Focus on other things bro
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can confirm

parents offered me no guidance in terms of career choices/etc
school counselors were fuking retarded

went to college immediately after high school, hadzeroreal world perspective/experience/etc, some 17 year old kid from a small town and somehow i was expected to decide what major to pick.

accumulated a nice chunk of debt for an essentially useless degree. in retrospect, yes i surely could have done more independent career research on my own and probably had a better outcome, but tbh at that point in my life i was overwhelmed with the social aspect of college and permanently intoxicated on the lofty promises of recruiters, counselors, etc who skillfully lead you to believe that upon graduation we would all have our pick of $80k+ salary jobs

no one ever said a word about the highly paid trades jobs, about the various benefits of the military, etc, it was just a goddamn bum rush to get every kid into college by any means necessary

not blaming anyone for the things that have happened, but the way the "system" is setup is highly disadvantageous
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Millennial just dont want to work. Simple as that. I was a hiring manager for an entry level dealership department(lot porters). I wanted to change the direction of the position and hire young kids/young adults because it really is a decent job. Pays like 50c above min wage to start but youre guaranteed overtime(Time and a half) if you choose to stay and help out and you get full benefits after 90 days and a nice raise(typically $2-3 if youre a good worker). There aren't many entry level jobs that give you that but i kid you not, I hired 9 people most aged 18-23ish and only 2 of them made it to the 90 day mark. This job was a ****ing cake walk. We had our own automated car wash, 90% of the day was spent chilling in brand new cars with the ac/heater blasting in line for the automated car wash we shared with 3 dealerships and at the gas station a half mile away and STILL was too hard for the typical millennial because we had to walk around in 100 degree heat every now and then.

It wasn't until i got that job that i realized just how fuked we are in the future.
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We can talk all day about what we think is happening on a large scale, but I can tell you personally most all of my peers (probably 85-90%) aren't very employable, rap hit this generation hard. Every kid growing up thought it was cool to not try hard, do drugs, sell drugs, and had the "**** the system" mentality. Now they're all struggling and a big chunk are idiots. Only a few certain friends are doing well and actually work hard.

I actually believe this is the case for most of the country. Just follow social media, most younger people are complete idiots politically and talk with slang/act ghetto and trashy because music made it cool.

Then they wonder why nobody wants them to professionally represent their company, which is where the real paying jobs are.
Originally Posted By WSG1⏩
Millennial just dont want to work. Simple as that. I was a hiring manager for an entry level dealership department(lot porters). I wanted to change the direction of the position and hire young kids/young adults because it really is a decent job. Pays like 50c above min wage to start but youre guaranteed overtime(Time and a half) if you choose to stay and help out and you get full benefits after 90 days and a nice raise(typically $2-3 if youre a good worker). There aren't many entry level jobs that give you that but i kid you not, I hired 9 people most aged 18-23ish and only 2 of them made it to the 90 day mark. This job was a ****ing cake walk. We had our own automated car wash, 90% of the day was spent chilling in brand new cars with the ac/heater blasting in line for the automated car wash we shared with 3 dealerships and at the gas station a half mile away and STILL was too hard for the typical millennial because we had to walk around in 100 degree heat every now and then.

It wasn't until i got that job that i realized just how fuked we are in the future.
I can completely confirm this. It's not a joke, it's not a myth, it's not "just the same thing every generation says", this generation really doesn't like to work. Society has made this OK through the bad music they make mainstream and TV, all that. Plus people are just way too entertained these days. They're ok being stuck in a basement because you have a world of entertainment at their fingertips in that basement.

Generations really actually did get worse.
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Originally Posted By Ted
can confirm

parents offered me no guidance in terms of career choices/etc
school counselors were fuking retarded

went to college immediately after high school, hadzeroreal world perspective/experience/etc, some 17 year old kid from a small town and somehow i was expected to decide what major to pick.

accumulated a nice chunk of debt for an essentially useless degree. in retrospect, yes i surely could have done more independent career research on my own and probably had a better outcome, but tbh at that point in my life i was overwhelmed with the social aspect of college and permanently intoxicated on the lofty promises of recruiters, counselors, etc who skillfully lead you to believe that upon graduation we would all have our pick of $80k+ salary jobs

no one ever said a word about the highly paid trades jobs, about the various benefits of the military, etc, it was just a goddamn bum rush to get every kid into college by any means necessary

not blaming anyone for the things that have happened, but the way the "system" is setup is highly disadvantageous
I thought you were perma'd
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Originally Posted By MustardTiger17⏩
I thought you were perma'd
never

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Man... you all need to think objectively and stop drinking the Kool-aid.


1.) More people with degrees= more supply than demand.


2.) When supply exceeds demand, prices are driven down (in this case wages).



3.) When prices are driven down, only the BEST and SMARTEST are in demand (basic survival/competition)








The Result:

You have a job market that is over saturated and with outsourcing and automation is shrinking. College degrees are great and our generation is well-educated, but simply not demanded.


This isn't a conspiracy or the fruits of a generation... its simple economics. A market correction will happen when the numbers get so bad that they will cause social unrest and the cycle will start a-new.




















































































The take away? Innovate or die. Simple. This is merely evolution playing out economically.
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Originally Posted By Evil_D⏩
Here's an idea. Let your work speak for you.
If you dont like it, start your own business big shot. Unless that would be too much work... are you starting to get it yet?
The world doesn't owe you anything snowflake.
A baby needs to crawl before it walks.

You point out that I'm a millennial. If that is so then it's the millennial way to not pull your weight and leave the bulk of the work for other millennials who dont have a chip on their shoulder/weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
And no, I'm not a millennial. Raised by a single mother who did her best but couldn't offer me very much.
Been work/supporting myself/living in my own place since I was 16.
Last I checked that does not fit the description of 99.9% of millennials.
everything just went right over your head lol.

also if ur 32 you ARE a millennial. its not a mindset, its a generation.
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Originally Posted By Jacwald⏩
you are wasting your life no wonder you falsely call yourself a loser. Focus on other things bro
Don't tell me what to do bro. And by bro, I mean never my bro.
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
again, as i mentioned previously, go back 20 years and i bet that stat is almost identical for the same age group.
The labor force participation rate for all youth was60.1percent in July, little
changed from a year earlier. (The labor force participation rate is the proportion
of the civilian noninstitutional population that is working or looking and available
for work.) (See table 2.)The summer labor force participation rate of youth has held
fairly steady since July 2010, after trending downward for the prior two decades. The
summer youth labor force participation rate peaked at77.5percent in July 1989.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/youth.nr0.htm


"Youth Unemployment Soars in Past Decade"
Often described as disconnected youth, they are encountering greater competition from older workers for increasingly scarce entry-level jobs, especially in light of the recession. And a number of them contend with hurdles beyond their control, such as growing up in poverty, having few working adults as role models, attending low-performing schools and living with a single parent.
http://www.aecf.org/blog/youth-unemp...n-past-decade/




High unemployment among youth is devastating, not just for the individuals who spend months or even years trying to get hired but also for countries' economies -- and the world's -- the report noted.
http://www.ibtimes.com/global-youth-...coming-2139814
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I think an overlooked factor ITT is students going to colleges that have horrible placement rates upon graduation but never actually research it.


I have friends who went to colleges w a ~55% post graduation placement rate for their degree but are okay taking out large loans for a crappy chance at a job

Students who don't take advantage of internships or co-ops also goofed
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Phucking LOL the reason for this is rap music?
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Originally Posted By soulivex⏩
Phucking LOL the reason for this is rap music?
Lol at not realizing that.

At least in the US, rap hit hard and 90+% of "millennials" listened to it. It changed the culture of so many people here to be against "the man", not try hard, not talk professionally, not respect women, promoted sleeping around as much as possible/was anti family creation, pro drug use and crime to get money, etc.

Of course as people get older a lot grew out of it, but a lo didn't. You're impressionable when you're 16 and listening to that and idolizing that and then you get pressured into drugs. Drugs for this generation are extremely high and that messes them up for a long, long time.

Yeah, pop culture can really affect somebodies ability to make it.

If someone asked me, I'd say it's 50% culture (which was mostly brought on by rap... my favorite genre of music) and 50% brought on by the advancement of technology. Before, a basement dweller was lonely and had almost no entertainment. These days, he can be connected to every one of his friends playing amazing games, watching amazing movies, porn, whatever the kid wants. Seriously... what's his motivation to go get a job and do all that when he's got so much addicting entertainment right in front of him at home.

My $0.02.
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Millenials have it bad you say? Two younger generations will be competing with third world labour and machines on a much larger scale and the intellect-driven professions are increasing their barrier of entry every year.

A lot of experience isn't being passed on by the boomers and older Gen X'ers because of rules, regulations and $$$. My dad couldn't pass on his skills except to his family without resorting to H&S red tape and taxes up his ass.

Not sure what the future holds for these younger people when millenials can't pass on knowledge they don't know or refuse to do.
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Originally Posted By Miked1978⏩
here we go blaming baby boomers again...

You know some of what you say maybe was true for a certain % of the population but not every baby boomer had it as easy as you think they did. You act as if everyone was living in huge houses and living the GOAT life but in reality most baby boomers were poor and got in debt and lived paycheck to paycheck.

I interview a lot of kids coming out of college and about half of them think they should be given a managerial job right away. Most of them don't want to climb the corporate ladder.

But hey lets blame them because we live in a society that needs to blame someone else!!!
This is a correct statement. However the real world is a smack in the face. Anyone trying to make it needs to move to a city
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Originally Posted By WSG1⏩
Millennial just dont want to work. Simple as that. I was a hiring manager for an entry level dealership department(lot porters). I wanted to change the direction of the position and hire young kids/young adults because it really is a decent job. Pays like 50c above min wage to start but youre guaranteed overtime(Time and a half) if you choose to stay and help out and you get full benefits after 90 days and a nice raise(typically $2-3 if youre a good worker). There aren't many entry level jobs that give you that but i kid you not, I hired 9 people most aged 18-23ish and only 2 of them made it to the 90 day mark. This job was a ****ing cake walk. We had our own automated car wash, 90% of the day was spent chilling in brand new cars with the ac/heater blasting in line for the automated car wash we shared with 3 dealerships and at the gas station a half mile away and STILL was too hard for the typical millennial because we had to walk around in 100 degree heat every now and then.

It wasn't until i got that job that i realized just how fuked we are in the future.
I agree thay when it comes to actual hard work this generation is lazy, but the reason no one stayed longer than 90 days because that is a chit placeholder job. 50 cents more than minimum? I made more than that waiting tables in HS. Even a hs diploma holder, let alone in college or college grad, is not going to stay long in that job. Its not entitlement, it's called not being a moron when there are better options, not to mention there are other low paying jobs where you can actually pick up some skills like selling or people skills for you resume, better than driving some cars around. I agree if you have no job you should take anything, but you definitely shouldn't stay in a dead end job on principle.
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Go to Uni. Rack up a huge debt. Flaunt your redundant degree that has little to no meaning. "Where's ma job?" "Who's going to pay my student debt?" Lots of humble work available: "I don't want to do that".

Either get a degree that's useful, or start working early to pad up your resume, get certificates etc, learn to budget, work 1 even 2 crappy jobs to save, get out there and meet people, extend your social network. If you're lucky enough to be able to live with your parents, then you have no excuses to fail.
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Saw a job posting for a sports team dietitian for a local prestigious prep academy. Requires masters degree, 3 yrs experience, CSSD "encouraged" (read: required - which is 1500 additional hours specialty practice within the field, usually volunteer and unpaid). Pay was $10/hr. The worst part is I'm sure they got someone

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Originally Posted By BigStewTheJew⏩
I think an overlooked factor ITT is students going to colleges that have horrible placement rates upon graduation but never actually research it.


I have friends who went to colleges w a ~55% post graduation placement rate for their degree but are okay taking out large loans for a crappy chance at a job

Students who don't take advantage of internships or co-ops also goofed
This is yet another avenue colleges mislead and deceive, friens went to a law school because they advertised 95% job placement w/in 90 days. Turns out nobody got jobs and the school hired them all min wage bitch work paralegal jobs.
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tfw graduating May 2018 and have multiple offers all over 57k das it mane.
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It's not just unemployment. It's underemployment. A lot of jobs have wages that have not even come close to keeping up with inflation. I am now certified in one of those jobs. It's a job that is required for society to function too. The pay is about 1-2 dollars an hour more than it was 20 years ago. Meanwhile rent, bills, gasoline, groceries, etc have quadrupled since then.

Wages are stagnant for many professions. It's funny too because I have friends that have jobs like "synergy effective specialist" for startups and **** like that and they make 100k a year. When I ask them what they actually do, they can't answer me. They don't actually do anything (srs) yet the wages in these types of jobs are astronomical. Funny how that works.

Anyway, certain fields are going to be pretty much minimum wage only pretty soon and it's not going to go over well for society in general.

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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
How is telling people to live frugally so they can afford the essentials in life a "terrible argument"? If you can't afford a smart phone, don't own a smart phone. If you can't afford the newest, latest tech, don't buy it. Live within your means. Explain the problem with this rationale.
It's a bad argument because not buying a smartphone or a couple of frivolous things that people like will not gain you entry into owning a house.

It's just plain ridiculous. I mean, how frugal should people be to buy a house and buy essentials? Is not buying a smartphone seriously going to help someone's chances at buying a house? No.

Fantasy world economics at its best. It's just a conservative jerk off session to make themselves feel like they're making real arguments.

Spending $1,000 per year on stuff that isn't deemed "essential" will not make or break you, nor will it magically be enough in the future to afford a house, as much as conservatives like to dream it will.
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger⏩
It's not just unemployment. It's underemployment. A lot of jobs have wages that have not even come close to keeping up with inflation. I am now certified in one of those jobs. It's a job that is required for society to function too. The pay is about 1-2 dollars an hour more than it was 20 years ago. Meanwhile rent, bills, gasoline, groceries, etc have quadrupled since then.

Wages are stagnant for many professions. It's funny too because I have friends that have jobs like "synergy effective specialist" for startups and **** like that and they make 100k a year. When I ask them what they actually do, they can't answer me. They don't actually do anything (srs) yet the wages in these types of jobs are astronomical. Funny how that works.

Anyway, certain fields are going to be pretty much minimum wage only pretty soon and it's not going to go over well for society in general.

In before STEM this or STEM that.
also dont forget many employers only give people 30 or less hours a week to avoid paying health insurance, and these people count towards full time employment numbers.. id be really curious to see hard stats on how many people dont quite get full time hours
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Originally Posted By EdSTI⏩
tfw graduating May 2018 and have multiple offers all over 57k das it mane.
offers for a year from now? i wouldnt bank on those too hard unless they're from massive companies
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Originally Posted By LtGoose⏩
"Greatest generation" my arse, fuk baby boomers. Forcing us to take up so much fukin burden. Fuk your social security.
The greatest generation was not the baby boomers. The greatest generation was the baby boomers parents and grandparents. They went thru the great depression and fought in WW2.

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2009/0...st-generation/

"Every generation has its share of men who fully live the art of manliness. But there may never have been a generation when the ratio of honorable men to slackers was higher than the one born between 1914 and 1929. These were the men that grew up during the Great Depression. They’re the men who went off to fight in the Big One. And they’re the men who came home from that war and built the nations of the Western world into economic powerhouses. They knew the meaning of sacrifice, both in terms of material possessions and of real blood, sweat, and tears. They were humble men who never bragged about what they had done or been through. They were loyal, patriotic, and level-headed. They were our Greatest Generation."
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post 1515207731 08-10-2017, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger⏩
It's not just unemployment. It's underemployment. A lot of jobs have wages that have not even come close to keeping up with inflation. I am now certified in one of those jobs. It's a job that is required for society to function too. The pay is about 1-2 dollars an hour more than it was 20 years ago. Meanwhile rent, bills, gasoline, groceries, etc have quadrupled since then.

Wages are stagnant for many professions. It's funny too because I have friends that have jobs like "synergy effective specialist"for startups and **** like that and they make 100k a year. When I ask them what they actually do, they can't answer me. They don't actually do anything (srs) yet the wages in these types of jobs are astronomical. Funny how that works.

Anyway, certain fields are going to be pretty much minimum wage only pretty soon and it's not going to go over well for society in general.

In before STEM this or STEM that.
brb gf makes 50k a year for a startup where it's an office full of people who literally do nothing all day. And they have a personal chef and a gym onsite
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