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Thread: Why do 55% of white people think they're discriminated against?

post 1538834621 12-28-2017, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
But it's crazy. It's white people letting everybody chit on white people. .
That's something that a lot of the alt-right want to ignore.

An ex white nationalist (who is now a fascist) who I respect said (paraphrasing);for all the talk about minorities, it was white kids ripping down confederate statues and kicking them.

Some of the strongest criticism of the alt right, and the strongest proponents of mass immigration, come from white people (not just Jews, which is what the alt right pretends). The alt right are trying to pretend that it's non-whites against whites, when it's largely whites criticizing whites. But if they faced that reality it would fracture their narrative, so they just selectively focus on on the media and academia who are pro immigration and anti-white nationalism are Jewish. They ignore the whites doing the exact same thing.
Originally Posted By Azzurri⏩
It's basically white liberals screaming 'white privilege'.
Yep.

I've got into hard debates (I'm black) with white liberals who criticise white people who are anti-Islam as being racist.
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Everyone is.

It's called in groups vs out groups and people treat their in groups better, even subconsciously. And like it or not skin color is one of those groups. So is male and female. Gay and straight. etc etc etc. Anywhere you can group things differently you will see discrimination from one group to the next.

Some people cry about it (liberals) and others just know it's a part of life that's been happening since the dawn of time and really isn't even a trait exclusive to humans for that matter.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
That's something that a lot of the alt-right want to ignore.

An ex white nationalist (who is now a fascist) who I respect said (paraphrasing);for all the talk about minorities, it was white kids ripping down confederate statues and kicking them.

Some of the strongest criticism of the alt right, and the strongest proponents of mass immigration, come from white people (not just Jews, which is what the alt right pretends). The alt right are trying to pretend that it's non-whites against whites, when it's largely whites criticizing whites. But if they faced that reality it would fracture their narrative, so they just selectively focus on on the media and academia who are pro immigration and anti-white nationalism are Jewish. They ignore the whites doing the exact same thing.



Yep.

I've got into hard debates (I'm black) with white liberals who criticise white people who are anti-Islam as being racist.
This. Its white ppl pushing this white guilt agenda in America.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Thanks.



Not that surprising (though I will need to read the article more thoroughly), seeing as whitewomenspecifically benefit disproportionately from affirmative action.

White males specifically are arguably disadvantaged (which is a claim commonly made by MRAs and MGTOWs, with data).



Were you offended or something by me asking for data?

I don't know why you wrote that comment, I wanted to see if you had done any research or were just making a meme based claim. You made a bold claim, and it took a few posts for you to present direct research behind it.
That's your claim, you have not demonstrated anything as such, more so used raw numbers in the same way I can use raw numbers to lie about anything:

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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Some people cry about it (liberals)
No dude, (non-alt right) Libertarians, Fascists, Marxists, and Left Wing Anarchists 'cry about it'. They all disagree with nepotism, outside of family and friends.
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Originally Posted By HoustonMiscer⏩
Lol it's not like I called them racial slurs to their face or anything like that. I just treated them differently than I would treat someone else. Idk if this makes me a racist but I connect and have more in common with non whites. I still socialize with whites but it's not the same way that I socialize with non whites.
So you're essentially doing to them what they're doing to you.

This is kind of like when a waiter sees someone walk in who they know isn't going to tip. They give chit service. Then feel vindicated when they don't get a tip. Was it really the person who walked in? Or was it the chit service?
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
White guilt is a helluva drug. The only explanation I have is that they're pandering for brownie/Social Justice points, and votes.



Are they still?
Don't really know what they do these days tbh. Never really looked into em.
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Originally Posted By NVious⏩
YOU made the claim that white women benefit most from AA, QUANTIFY the finer details of this claim.
I don't need to. I don't see why you want me to, other than to argue for the sake of it?

Also you don't seem to disagree with the overall claim, just the 'finer details'.

Do you disagree with the conclusion presented by the articles, or just the 'finer details'?
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Originally Posted By AgRyan⏩
So you're essentially doing to them what they're doing to you.

This is kind of like when a waiter sees someone walk in who they know isn't going to tip. They give chit service. Then feel vindicated when they don't get a tip. Was it really the person who walked in? Or was it the chit service?
As a former delivery driver, it was probably the customer. I bet they were black (no racist).


Of course service should always be up to standard tho.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I don't need to. I don't see why you want me to, other than to prove something?

Also you don't seem to disagree with the overall claim, just the 'finer details'.

Do you disagree with the claim, or just the 'finer details'?
You are so dense, you don't even understand the basic analogy I was making.

Really pathetic how you use leftist twisting of facts yourself despite apparently knowing better.

I could just say how you brought up being an actual cuckhold in the past and leave it at that, but that has nothing to do with the argument, although it's hard not to when you REFUSE basic civility in quantifying your claims while demanding I do just that.
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Originally Posted By AgRyan⏩
So you're essentially doing to them what they're doing to you.

This is kind of like when a waiter sees someone walk in who they know isn't going to tip. They give chit service. Then feel vindicated when they don't get a tip. Was it really the person who walked in? Or was it the chit service?
I don't treat them like chit unless they treat me like chit. I am cool with everyone regardless of race but I feel that I have more in common with non whites in general. Of course there are some white people I have more in common with and whom I connect with. Why should I be nice to them if they treat me like chit? I am only cool with people who are cool with me
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Kinda like how he casually uses the term "alt-right" constantlyto infer anyone holding certain beliefs must also be some skin-headed Nazi *******. Because that's what liberals do: They call people Nazis when they have a disagreement on a topic
The Alt Right are not Nazis'. You're the one taking it as a slur, when it's not intended as one.

The Alt Right is a 21st century political movement of; White identitarians, white nationalists, white segregationists, and National Socialists (Nazis).

If you think that the term Alt-Right means Nazis, then you are the one who has fallen for the mainstream media propaganda, not me. Nazis are one sub-set of the Alt-right, they aren't anywhere near the majority. The Majority are closed border Libertarians, or State Capitalists (from what I've seen).
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
The alt right are not Nazis. You're the one taking it as a slur,when it's not intended as one.


Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
The Alt Right is a 21st century political movement of; White identitarians, white nationalists, white segregationists, andNational Socialist (Nazis).

If you think that the termAlt-Right means Nazis, then you are the one who has fallen for the mainstream media propaganda, not me.
You literally stated in the 1st sentence that Alt-Righter's are Nazis, and I've seen you, and other liberal posters on this forum use the term Alt-Right in a derogatory manner multiple times (especially during the NC Charlotte incident). You are using it intentionally to label anyone you disagree with as a Nazi. Yes. Yes you are. The people you're referring to on this site (at least in my case) aren't even affiliated with the Alt-Right in any way, and yet you're using that term constantly throughout this thread in reference to white people who think they're being discriminated against, as if the fact that white people face discrimination is something only a member of the Alt-Right (ie a Nazi) would believe.

And now comes the hand-wringing and denials.
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whites are the most discriminated against right now, also asians are too.

a black female will get picked over a white male for most gov jobs, and other jobs too. also with college acceptance a black female will get in way easier, and also get free money and grants.

the cool thing is i'm polish so i cant be racist. my people have been fuacked in the past badly and we dont have to care about ppl's feelings now.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
You literally stated in the 1st sentence that Alt-Righter's are Nazis,
The left wing is made up of; Liberal Capitalists, Social Democrats, State Marxists, and Anarchists.

Does that mean that all leftists are Marxists? No, it doesn't.

I named 3 other branches of the Alt-Right before I mentioned the National Socialists, and I also mentioned that they were not the majority.
and I've seen you,and other liberal posters on this forumuse the term Alt-Right in a derogatory manner multiple times (especially during the NC Charlotte incident). You are using it intentionally to label anyone you disagree with as a Nazi. Yes. Yes you are.
You seem like you've made up your mind, but I'm pretty confident that I know far more about the alt-right than you do, and you are projecting your understanding of the Alt-Right on to me. You probably think they are Nazis, not me. Do you think they are Nazis?

You seem to have a rabid hatred for anyone who is left wing.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I named 3 other branches of the Alt-Right before I mentioned the National Socialists, and I also mentioned that they were not the majority.
I'm not playing this stupid Phucking game with you. You are using it in a derogatory fashion, as you have in the past, as you always do, and now you're denying it because you always do that too.
Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
You seem like you've made up your mind, but I'm pretty confident that I know far more about the alt-right than you do, and you are projecting your understanding of the Alt-Right on to me. You probably think they are Nazis, not me. Do you think they are Nazis?
I think you think they're Nazis, which is why you go around this forum using the term alt-right so willy-nilly, because you like calling people Nazis, and you think you're being clever by doing it using the term alt-Right, instead of Nazi. You think people won't notice, and you can slip in your insults under the radar.
Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
You seem to have a rabid hatred for anyone who is left wing.
Nope, just progressive/SJW's who are utterly dishonest, like you.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I'm not playing this stupid Phucking game with you. You are using it in a derogatory fashion, as you have in the past, as you always do, and now you're denying it because you always do that too.
You can't read minds.
I think you think they're Nazis, which is why you go around this forum using the term alt-right so willy-nilly, because you like calling people Nazis, and you think you're being clever by doing it using the term alt-Right, instead of Nazi. You think people won't notice, and you can slip in your insults under the radar.
Again, you can't read minds.

I'm confident I know more about the political makeup of the alt-right than you.
Nope, just progressive/SJW'swho are utterly dishonest, like you.
Projection.

Remember when you claimed that I was anti-gun ownership, when I'm not?

You literally made up the claim, and stood by it even after I said that I was pro-gun ownership.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I don't think it's whites vs everyone else, that's the model that alt-righters are presenting.
I thought earlier on you were suggesting it was something pushed by the elites? Is it just the alt right now? Either I have misunderstood, or you are perhaps being a little incoherent.
There's; liberals vs conservative (IMO they both neoliberal and pro-interventionism, so it's a asissine rivalry),
In their modern day form, yes. But liberal and conservative ideology does not go hand in hand with neoliberalism. Ask any Burkean Conservative what they think of modern conservatism. lol.
religion vs religion, middle class vs the poor, tradies vs office workers, pro-LGBT vs Anti LGBT, men vs women, etc.

Any kind of conflict involving the middle class, working class and poor keeps us from uniting and bringing down international finance capitalism and the Deep State.
Most of those conflicts are in fact the result of human nature, not some masterplan from "elites". Perhaps a large conflict would be that which brings down crony capitalism and the deep state.
People do not want change until things get really bad. Wait until we have a real depression like in the 1930s.. it is coming, and I doubt very much that the system we have will survive it.

They won't be able to blame it entirely on over spending like in 2008 (although we really should live within our means tbh), and people will understand where the real fault lies.
What I was referring to was teaching Civic Nationalism was made law in British schools in 2014....

http://www.doingsmsc.org.uk/british-values/

If nationalism was as taboo in the UK, as British Alt Righters (eg. Millenial Woes) trying to pretend to the US alt right, then the British government would not have made it mandatory.
That is not nationalism. That is basic British values.
Things you are taught about are:
democracy
the rule of law
individual liberty
mutual respect for and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs and for those without faith.

Fukin lol if you consider that to be anything remotely close to nationalism.

I would have children start each day with the national anthem. Ded srs.
Have them celebrate historical British victories.
Have them celebrate the Birthdays of prominent British thinkers, inventors, explorers, writers etc.
I would have them recite British poetry, sing patriotic hymns, etc.

That would be closer to nationalism. What a fine world it would be too.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
You can't read minds.
Again, you can't read minds.
Don't need to. You've made yourself clear many, many times. Pretty sure it was you during the Charlotte NC issue that was pretty much claiming alt-Righter's were a bunch of Nazis in a huge thread. Page after page. No mind reading needed, you openly stated this was your stance.
Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Projection.

Remember when you claimed that I was anti-gun ownership, when I'm not?
Not particularly.
Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
You literally made up the claim, and stood by it even after I said that I was pro-gun ownership.
Yeah, because when a liar says something, I should just take it at face value.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
That's something that a lot of the alt-right want to ignore.

An ex white nationalist (who is now a fascist) who I respect said (paraphrasing);for all the talk about minorities, it was white kids ripping down confederate statues and kicking them.

Some of the strongest criticism of the alt right, and the strongest proponents of mass immigration, come from white people (not just Jews, which is what the alt right pretends). The alt right are trying to pretend that it's non-whites against whites, whenit's largely whites criticizing whites. But if they faced that reality it would fracture their narrative, so they just selectively focus on on the media and academia who are pro immigration and anti-white nationalism are Jewish. They ignore the whites doing the exact same thing.



Yep.

I've got into hard debates (I'm black) with white liberals who criticise white people who are anti-Islam as being racist.
Don't agree, from what I've read they're very hard on their "own".
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Originally Posted By FitnessJake⏩
Because we are?Every media pieceblames white people for everything. Just go read any comment on Twitter about anything, and somehow people will bring up white people as the problem.
Look up who controls the media...
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Originally Posted By MattBro95⏩
I thought earlier on you were suggesting it was something pushed by the elites? Is it just the alt right now? Either I have misunderstood, or you are perhaps being a little incoherent.
No, the excerpt I quoted didn't mention whites vs everyone else, it was generally talking about division. Race was not specified.
In their modern day form, yes. But liberal and conservative ideology does not go hand in hand with neoliberalism. Ask any Burkean Conservative what they think of modern conservatism. lol.
I'm only talking about current western politics.
Most of those conflicts are in fact the result of human nature,
I don't think it's either/or.

As much as people like the alt-right claim, ethnic conflict (in Europe) have been a problem historically, not just race. People can create in-group and out-group preferences on many different basis; race, ethnicity, ideology, religion, class, culture, sex, sexuality, age, etc.

Social identities can also be socially engineered, the concept of nations didn't always exist (if you don't know, I would advise looking into it, nationalism is a fairly new phenomenon in human history) yet people will fight and kill each other because they identify so strongly with a nation. Many nations literally didn't exist until the last century (eg the Balkans/Eastern Europe.

My point is, in-group out-group is human nature, but the basis of our group identities can be manipulated, as well as out-group hostility (in-group preferences doesn't necessarily require out-group hostility).
not some masterplan from "elites". Perhaps a large conflict would be that which brings down crony capitalism and the deep state.
I never claimed it was a 'masterplan'. But I do believe it's conscious, there's a difference.

Politicians and the media do it all the time when they use divisive rhetoric (look at what those people want to do, we can't let them!), it helps them get into power, and maintain power.
People do not want change until things get really bad. Wait until we have a real depression like in the 1930s.. it is coming, and I doubt very much that the system we have will survive it.
Maybe, I used to be convinced there was going to be a global economic collapse, now I'm not so certain.

Also, 'change' due to economic turmoil doesn't mean it will be in a positive direction (as I'm sure you know).
They won't be able to blame it entirely on over spending like in 2008, and people will understand where the real fault lies.
IME people blame people on the dole and the poor for societies, and whatever ethnic demographic they don't like for the problems. I can't see a massive change in political climate following a collapse, I think whoever you blamed before will just intensify. (Look on this forum, and other right wing forums for how much blame is put on minorities and the poor. And on liberal forums blame is put on men and whites. The structure itself is really only criticized IME by fascists, Marxists, Socialist Nationalists, and left wing anarchists, and they are not the mainstream).

Looking into revolutions in the past, there already was discontent with the 'ruling class' (fascist or leftist revolutions followed that pattern) amongst the people. Then there was a tipping point, but there wasn't a spontaneous awakening due to a single event.
That is not nationalism. That is basic British values.
Things you are taught about are:
democracy
the rule of law
individual liberty
mutual respect for and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs and for those without faith.

Fukin lol if you consider that to be anything remotely close to nationalism.
There are different types of nationalism. That's called; Civic Nationalism.

Civic Nationalism, Cultural Nationalism, Race Nationalism, Ethno Nationalism, etc.

You don't seem to consider Civic Nationalism/Nativism a legitimate form of nationalism, but others do.
I would have children start each day with the national anthem. Ded srs.
Have them celebrate historical British victories.
Have them celebrate the Birthdays of prominent British thinkers, inventors, explorers, writers etc.
I would have them recite British poetry, sing patriotic hymns, etc.

That would be closer to nationalism. What a fine world it would be too.
That's cultural nationalism.

Which is what most fascists advocate (I think you are fascist but you just don't know it, srs.)
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Yeah, because when a liar says something, I should just take it at face value.
So it's unfalsfiable then.

No matter what, you are right.
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Don't agree, from what I've read they're very hard on their "own".
IME they spend most of their time talking against non-whites (Jews, Blacks, Arabs, and Hispanics). In comparison to the amount of time they spend criticizing fellow whites.
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I agree that white libtards are the main source of the current problem

Eliminate them and we can live in harmony

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white libbys always scare me. I just have to remind them, it's ok to be white..shhhhshh no tears only dreams
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Still waiting on a liberal to explain to me why diversity is a good thing, or what diversity has made better.
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Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
i am white, i was denied admission to 3/9 of the grad schools i applied to becuase I "did not contribute to diversity and inclusion measures taken at this time". I had 12 published papers, 3.8 gpa, top 3% GRE scores.

in the master's program i chose:
- hispanic student only has to pay 20% of his tuition (personally seen the statements). this is not becuase he applied for a scholarship or grant, the school gave him one of their diversity grants. His parents make a chit ton, I have seen snaps of him chillin in his house.

- foreign asian girl, that has to pay upfront for tuition (parents money) also gets huge tuition cuts for being a minority (lol at several billion asians on this planet being a minority). she bert stared me when she found that I did not get the same cuts.
Just lol if you didn't get your white privilege check in the mail last month
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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Not even an American,but you guys SERIOUSLY need to stop with the retarded "B-b-but look what white people did to native Americans" "argument" to draw parallels.First off,they were killing each other long before anyone set foot on their land.Then comes the "illegal immigrant" in a land which was nothing but wilderness and huts (AS OPPOSED TO 3RD world savages coming to a well established country to reap all the benefits for themselves without offering anything in return)which later became your precious number 1 superpower (which offered the world much more than nature worshiping) and "stole" aka bought land from the natives which didn't even know the concept of owning land because they thought you can't own land so they basically fought back until their "conquerors/invaders" gave them a part of their land so they can live peacefully.White people are just better at competition and conquering,don't hate the player,hate the game
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