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post 1543822591 02-14-2018, 05:36 PM
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Just came to see firearms crew rinsing their hands of this matter lol
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Originally Posted By strengthgained⏩
Just came to see firearms crew rinsing their hands of this matter lol
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Originally Posted By strengthgained⏩
Just came to see firearms crew rinsing their hands of this matter lol
For hundreds of years, the USA had no problems with gun ownership or mass shootings.


The problem here is a decrease in the quality of citizens........ not the guns.
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Originally Posted By jonmcd46⏩
No you were chitting on America then calling someone retarded as if they strengthens your argument. While I agree getting rid of guns would lessen the amount of gun related deaths per year, that doesn't mean its an ideal solution. If we cut off everyone's hands there'd be no more school shootings but would it be worth it? Clearly getting rid of guns is not something most Americans want, and its not as if since the existence of guns there have been school shootings. The problem is rooted somewhere deeper in our society, and to blame it simply on guns is foolish. Who knows, maybe we get rid of guns and these kids start throwing acid in people's faces or using mustard gas.
Extreme situations require extreme measures, so instead of writing a research paper about Americans' mentality and how it must be changed (which is something that may take hundreds of years judging by your reactions), better make sure that other kids won't get through the same situation as those and ban guns. Do you understand ? I agree that it is in the root and changing perspectives and behaviour and cultural background is difficult, but you guys are aware of who you are and those sad shootings are the proof for you being dangerous to yourselves. HOWEVER, you still don't want to ban guns ? This is what I don't get
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post 1543822951 02-14-2018, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
For hundreds of years, the USA had no problems with gun ownership or mass shootings.


The problem here is a decrease in the quality of citizens........ not the guns.
Sometimes too many ingredients don't make stew, they make a pot of sh*t. Society has been crumbling rapidly in the last 30 years and instead of acknowledging this and trying to right the ship, many feel the values and principles we were founded on are the problem.
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
Extreme situations require extreme measures, so instead of writing a research paper about Americans' mentality and how it must be changed (which is something that may take hundreds of years judging by your reactions), better make sure that other kids won't get through the same situation as those and ban guns. Do you understand ? I agree that it is in the root and changing perspectives and behaviour and cultural background is difficult, but you guys are aware of who you are and those sad shootings are the proof for you being dangerous to yourselves. HOWEVER, you still don't want to ban guns ? This is what I don't get

Ok, be different
You made a joke about getting shot in a serious thread about kids getting shot. You've got no class or maturity, you sicken me

Couldn't you see the bolded?
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
For hundreds of years, the USA had no problems with gun ownership or mass shootings.


The problem here is a decrease in the quality of citizens........ not the guns.
Yeah, it is a "mentality" problem.

And thats not even a new thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School..._United_States
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Originally Posted By FearThisjake⏩
They're also isolated and guns have to be brought in by sea or air.

We happen to have mexico, a nation with 5 times as much gun violence as us, as a neighbor.

It's not as simple as your 23 year old brain thinks it is, you cannot compare countries when talking about gun violence because there are so many more factors than just guns => population => deaths by guns. It is far, far more complicated than that.
Funny thing is over 50% of the gun deaths are self inflicted or accidental/negligent discharges which the media never mentions so most people are dumb and assume they're all murders/homicides.
Originally Posted By Postmort3m⏩
Just saw he was expelled for disciplinary reasons- that and his social media how was nobody looking into this grown man with obvious suspicion to commit violence
Thanks, makes sense but those any year past 18 (19+) should be put in a special class and segregated from the normal children. People probably saw his social media but where too self absorbed to say anything or just shrugged it off thinking he wasn't serious, no excuse just sadly the day and age we live in.
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123⏩
You made a joke about getting shot in a serious thread about kids getting shot. You've got no class or maturity, you sicken me

Couldn't you see the bolded?
She's a dumb dumb trolling a thread about a school shooting. Don't feed the troll
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
For hundreds of years, the USA had no problems with gun ownership or mass shootings.


The problem here is a decrease in the quality of citizens........ not the guns.
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Originally Posted By Postmort3m⏩
Sometimes too many ingredients don't make stew, they make a pot of sh*t. Society has been crumbling rapidly in the last 30 years and instead of acknowledging this and trying to right the ship, many feel the values and principles we were founded on are the problem.
repped. Can't agree with you more.


It's no coincidence that ever since the rise of liberalism, atheism, etc.... our society is crumbling.
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Originally Posted By cojones539⏩
Then take a look at Australia if you want a society that is more comparable to America. No guns, and almost no gun deaths there per year.
Cojones I like you broski, but you can't even really compare Australia to us. Similar base culture but completely different stituation with criminal activity, as well as geography.

We're one of the greatest consumer continents in the world, land-locked with the biggest drug manufacturing and exporters in the world which also fuels our street level criminal activity and a large chunk of our gun violence. A firearm amnesty program such as Australia'smayhave a slight impact on spree shootings (seeing as most of those weapons seem to be legally obtained) but that's a drop in the pan compared to other firearm related homicides.

The best path for America involves a multi-faceted approach of firearms education (encompassing the introduction, use of, and safe storage of firearms), parenting, and mental health monitoring for at risk individuals, IMO. But that's not expedient enough to be in the discussion apparently.
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Originally Posted By STA556⏩
Okay, so that small percentage. Are their guns legally-owned or illegally-owned, most of the time? This is exactly my point; you don't have any facts to go with your arguments/opinions because you don't fukking know any. You just sit there and mouth off like you know everything about gun ownership and gun crimes in America, when in reality, you're just as informed on it as I am about gun laws wherever you live--not fukking informed, at all.

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The folks who live here and have similar opinions, although I don't agree with them, they're a lot closer to the action than you are and know more about this country than you do. Again, you're not helping yourself by spouting off at the mouth, like that. You're just ignorant as fuk.
You're just whining about my opinion , 0 valid points, but ok.
Originally Posted By GODself⏩
So, in your opinion, if they ban guns, that small percent wouldnt get/buy them?

Criminals don't care about the law. If they want to kill, they gonna kill.

Just let some teachers have a gun inside the school.
I'm not debating what criminals want, I'm just saying that you should make it harder to impossible for them to kill instead of being able to buy guns like buying apples.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
repped. Can't agree with you more.


It's no coincidence that ever since the rise of liberalism, atheism, etc.... our society is crumbling.
School shootings are not a "new" problem.
post 1543823461 02-14-2018, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah⏩
If you remove minorities and suicides from the stats America is on par with Japan as far as murder rate
Let's not get delusional.

The white man is certainly less violent than most other racial groups in America, but we'll never be as pristine as the Japanese.
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
Extreme situations require extreme measures, so instead of writing a research paper about Americans' mentality and how it must be changed (which is something that may take hundreds of years judging by your reactions), better make sure that other kids won't get through the same situation as those and ban guns. Do you understand ? I agree that it is in the root and changing perspectives and behaviour and cultural background is difficult, but you guys are aware of who you are and those sad shootings are the proof for you being dangerous to yourselves. HOWEVER, you still don't want to ban guns ? This is what I don't get

Ok, be different
Fundamental differences is what we disagree on. We both want the same outcome, but we have different ideas of getting there.

The war on drugs failed, making them illegal didn't stop anyone from using them. Why do you think it'll work with guns? Why do you think that you won't just be harming law abiding, sane citizens?

Why do you favor leaving guns in the hands of criminals but taking them away from citizens? Do you think the shooting today would've been 100% prevented had the sale of firearms been illegal? Do you think that he wouldn't have tried to obtain them through another avenue?

I don't believe that banning the sale and possession of firearms will fix the gun violence problem here in the US. I've lived here my entire life (32 years) and I know the culture. We romanticize war, we see people die on TV every day, literally, we breed narcissism through the media to our youth, we're literally bombarded with negative/false information on a daily basis.

The problem isn't the firearm, it's the person holding it. If you ban the sale/possession of firearms, criminals will be the only people with them and then we're really ****ed.
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123⏩
You made a joke about getting shot in a serious thread about kids getting shot. You've got no class or maturity, you sicken me

Couldn't you see the bolded?
No, I never made a joke about kids being shot, this is what you want to state only. Reread and try some understanding the text exercises, also read and debate with people that have class (in your opinion).
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
repped. Can't agree with you more.


It's no coincidence that ever since the rise of liberalism, atheism, etc.... our society is crumbling.
oh here we go
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
No, I never made a joke about kids being shot, this is what you want to state only. Reread and try some understanding the text exercises, also read and debate with people that have class (in your opinion).
smh @ trolling like this
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
Forhundreds of years, the USA had no problems with gun ownership or mass shootings.


The problem here is a decrease in the quality of citizens........ not the guns.
Ignoring the fact this is how you had to get a single shot off just up till the last 100 years.

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Originally Posted By 21stCenturyKid⏩
Let's not get delusional.

The white man is certainly less violent than most other racial groups in America, but we'll never be as pristine as the Japanese.
Oh please.

Go read up on World War 2. The Japanese were more barbaric than even the Germans.

Now Japan is docile because they've been bombarded by propaganda as a side effect of the 2 bombs and the Marshall plan.... but those dudes have some cold blood running in their genes. Read up on how they used to capture women and put them in dog cages to be used as prostitutes, and how the Japanese men would treat them.......
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
For hundreds of years, the USA had no problems with gun ownership or mass shootings.


The problem here is a decrease in the quality of citizens........ not the guns.
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Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
Ignoring the fact this is how you had to load a gun just up to the last 100 years.

You now there were multi shot capable guns well more than 100 years ago, right?

Right?

Guess not
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Originally Posted By MSUD5⏩


crazy video of inside a classroom. shots going off
This is terrifying.
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Originally Posted By StrawHat94⏩
oh here we go
His statement is true.

Keep telling people they are animals and you’re surprised when they act like them?
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statistically speaking, these things aren't something to worry about

same with terrorist attacks

just live your life and if you get struck by lightning or shot by an FA, it's just the way she goes, boys

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Originally Posted By 21stCenturyKid⏩
Let's not get delusional.

The white man is certainly less violent than most other racial groups in America, but we'll never be as pristine as the Japanese.
Look it homie. Doj.gov has all the stats
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Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
Ignoring the fact this is how you had to get a single shot off just up till the last 100 years.

first revolver was the 1830s boyo...

totally inaccurate
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123⏩
You made a joke about getting shotin a serious thread about kids getting shot. You've got no class or maturity, you sicken me
Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
No, I never made a joke about kids being shot, this is what you want to state only.Reread and try some understanding the text exercises, also read and debate with people that have class (in your opinion).
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
IDGAF about who's rustled, what are they going to do, shoot me ? loled
Ironic that you tried to tell him to reread and try to understand.. when that is exactly what you need to do.

>You made a joke aboutsomeone shooting you
>He pointed it out and that in the context of a thread about kids, it was classless
>You respond that you didn't make a joke about kids being shot

Nobody said you made a joke about kids being shot.

Reading comprehension, not even once.
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Originally Posted By GODself⏩
School shootings are not a "new" problem.
Yes but they are becoming more of a recurring problem. We’ve only been in the 21st century for almost two decades yet are almost at the total amount of school shootings in the 20th century.
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