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post 1548304821 04-05-2018, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted By RainingBlood
strong morons ITT.

You realize that in the US, you can still be arrested for defending yourself, right?

The police don't know if it was in "self-defense". As far as they're concerned, you just committed murder.

ARRESTED=/=CHARGED
If someone breaks into my home and I ventilate them thoroughly, the police will take a statement from me and leave my home with that guys remains in a bag.
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post 1548329021 04-05-2018, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
I think we are all aware of the difference. As long as it is something that once he is cleared the arrest is removed from his record, etc. and there is no reference to him legally if it ever happening.

The concern isn’t for him at 78...what if you’re 23 and this follows you for life?
And of course if he's reimbursed for all time out of work, and compensated for anything he might have missed out on while being arrested. Uk'ers just don't understand that you're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.
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post 1548330321 04-05-2018, 12:37 PM
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Homeowner released on bail.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43648896

What's amazing that he was "arrested" on suspicion of murder, and that he had to come up with bail money.

Also that the "accomplice" hasn't come forward, nor has the stolen jewelry as the investigation continues. Surely, for grounds of the being arrested means that the the accomplice who took off during the "incident" is innocent and was simply going to clean the jewelry for the old gent and was planning on returning it.

The friendly bloke who died was Henry Vincent, 37, and wasunder investigation over a separate burglary involving another elderly victim.
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post 1548330381 04-05-2018, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By MHannibal
strong collective 80 IQ being displayed in here, American tradies out in force.
>signs of forced entry
>weapons found in subjects hands
>78 year old HOME OWNER defends himself
>guilty until proven innocent



And you laugh at us. Oh how stupid you mother ****ers are




No seriously, you people are absolutely ****ing retarded. I pity you and your nation. Enjoy making retorts against the US, but know that we are certainly your daddy.
post 1548330441 04-05-2018, 12:38 PM
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I'm surprised anyone is shocked by this. You basically have to offer tea and crumpets to any burglar that breaks into your house over there.
post 1548330511 04-05-2018, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted By fmylife4real
If someone breaks into my home and I ventilate them thoroughly, the police will take a statement from me and leave my home with that guys remains in a bag.
member when that cat got got at 5 points?

edit- wtf i can't even find it now bc 5pts so wild. this was years ago, armed robbery attempt foiled by cc brah.
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post 1548330981 04-05-2018, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
member when that cat got got at 5 points?
LMAO which one? Been quite a few....the trash do love taking each other out of the gene pool.
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post 1548331041 04-05-2018, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By MHannibal
strong collective 80 IQ being displayed in here, American tradies out in force.
you can just be smart af all smug getting stabbed to death in your own crib lol

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post 1548338511 04-05-2018, 02:10 PM
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brb innocent until proven guilty
brb oldbrah arrested and only released after coming up with bail money for defending his house

LMAO @ UK cucks ITT

It's good to know that despite whatever government-related bullchit that's going on where I live, if some ******* breaks into my house, I can feel free to **** him up in whatever way I deem appropriate and when the cops arrive, I'll get a brofist and a "way to go"
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post 1548339271 04-05-2018, 02:19 PM
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So he wasn't charged, just detained for questioning. This is actually not a story. Someone died, if there was no investigation that would be worse, no? If there's doubt to the story, detaining makes sense.
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Originally Posted By Rojoh
So he wasn't charged, just detained for questioning. This is actually not a story. Someone died, if there was no investigation that would be worse, no? If there's doubt to the story, detaining makes sense.
"detained for questioning"? Then why did he have to post bail or stay in the cell? Weird.
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post 1548344861 04-05-2018, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider
"detained for questioning"? Then why did he have to post bail or stay in the cell? Weird.
It's police bail, i.e. Surrender your passport probably. No money.

He was held because if you think about it for a nano second, the only witness is dead. It's only this guys word that he was being burgled (or indeed that there were two of them)
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Originally Posted By Griggz
>signs of forced entry
>weapons found in subjects hands
>78 year old HOME OWNER defends himself
>guilty until proven innocent



And you laugh at us. Oh how stupid you mother ****ers are




No seriously, you people are absolutely ****ing retarded. I pity you and your nation. Enjoy making retorts against the US, but know that we are certainly your daddy.
Sigh, He is not being punished. He killed someone, you think he's gonna say yea this guy broke in my house so I killed hima and the police are gonna reply: ok man see ya later, have a nice weekend? they are obviously going to take him in for questioning and piece the puzzle together.

A friend of mine was stabbed to death in 2004. The scum that murdered him said that he had broke into his flat. What do you think the police did next? yea that's right, they took him in for questioning. This old guy has been released on bail now.

Having said that, uk justice is a sham. My friend who was stabbed to death, his uncle was murdered just 2 years earlier (unrelated). The murderer got 10 damn years. The police were called 20 minutes before he was murdered
http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/...s_prison_move/


Also about 17-20 years a go a farmer shot a burglar and he was sent to prison. There was a lot of outrage about it at the time, and at that time we were not allowed to defend ourselves. Which is against our god given rights. The law was changed after this farmers case and we may now use reasonable force.
Originally Posted By Tuksonrider
"detained for questioning"? Then why did he have to post bail or stay in the cell? Weird.
Do you honestly believe that they have concluded this case and fully investigated it to the point that they can just say no need to suspect this guy of wrong doing?

in 1997, in a country lane just outside of my town. A man was murdered, the mans girlfriend was not. Some guys pulled up, killed the boyfriend and she managed to get away. The police obviously pulled her in for questioning as she was the only one to question. It was the right thing to do too, because it took me all of 5 seconds to work out it was her who murdered he boyfriend.

All you have heard is that this guy got arrested for defending himself. That's not the official police story at the moment , that is just the medias story and people are running with it. Though I do believe that that is likey the actual events.
Originally Posted By milesgiles1
It's police bail, i.e. Surrender your passport probably. No money.

He was held because if you think about it for a nano second, the only witness is dead. It's only this guys word that he was being burgled (or indeed that there were two of them)
I had to bail my bro out, 15K. you don't have to actually hand over any money until that person does a runner. You do have to prove you have the money though. I didn't as I was only 118 and pissed all my money up the wall. I did prove that I pretended to have it though. wink wink
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Originally Posted By hammercurl
Sigh, He is not being punished. He killed someone, you think he's gonna say yea this guy broke in my house so I killed hima and the police are gonna reply: ok man see ya later, have a nice weekend? they are obviously going to take him in for questioning and piece the puzzle together.

A friend of mine was stabbed to death in 2004. The scum that murdered him said that he had broke into his flat. What do you think the police did next? yea that's right, they took him in for questioning. This old guy has been released on bail now.

Having said that, uk justice is a sham. My friend who was stabbed to death, his uncle was murdered just 2 years earlier (unrelated). The murderer got 10 damn years. The police were called 20 minutes before he was murdered
http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/...s_prison_move/


Also about 17-20 years a go a farmer shot a burglar and he was sent to prison. There was a lot of outrage about it at the time, and at that time we were not allowed to defend ourselves. Which is against our god given rights. The law was changed after this farmers case and we may now use reasonable force.

Do you honestly believe that they have concluded this case and fully investigated it to the point that they can just say no need to suspect this guy of wrong doing?

in 1997, in a country lane just outside of my town. A man was murdered, the mans girlfriend was not. Some guys pulled up, killed the boyfriend and she managed to get away. The police obviously pulled her in for questioning as she was the only one to question. It was the right thing to do too, because it took me all of 5 seconds to work out it was her who murdered he boyfriend.

All you have heard is that this guy got arrested for defending himself. That's not the official police story at the moment , that is just the medias story and people are running with it. Though I do believe that that is likey the actual events.


I had to bail my bro out, 15K. you don't have to actually hand over any money until that person does a runner. You do have to prove you have the money though. I didn't as I was only 118 and pissed all my money up the wall. I did prove that I pretended to have it though. wink wink
Just as a point of order, I don't think the law changed after Tony Martin. He shot one of the burglars in the back and had booby trapped his house. Was lying in wait for them. I mean, I don't have any problem at all with what he did, but the law before and after ALWAYS said 'reasonable' force only. The jury didn't think it was reasonable and sent him to prison.
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