Squatting 405x10 and only pulling 420. I am beyond skeptical.


Edit. Just read your posts on this page. Lol nvm

I was doing bench press today and honestly it has to be the most pointless exercise ever, at least with squats and deadlifts it seems something remotely athletic.

Sorry to break it to you, but for the average bro, pursuing a big squat, bench AND dead will result in an utterly mediocre lift in all three.

If you want to be head turningly exceptional in any one of those lifts, you need to junk the other two. It's not happening. I'm talking a 3 plate bench, deep 4 plate squat, repping a 5 plate dead.. you are NOT EVER going to achieve all 3.

Please accept this and stop wasting years trying to be the exception. You aren't. These are hard lifts that tax your CNS to beyond what you can recover from, very quickly.

My advice is to lollygag on 90% of your training and go hard on the one or two lifts you really care about. I will bump this thread in a year and report my results. (It's a theory at the moment and it's only my opinion. Although I'm almost certainly right).

3/4/5 is definitely possible natty if you have good genetics, but I agree with the OP that natty’s are wasting their time doing these compounds.

I would say that it is nearly impossible to hit a 315 bench, 405 squat and 500 deadlift, with good form, as a natty, and look good. There are many people I have seen that are likely natty that can hit those numbers, but they look like a pile of sh!t they are such high bf%. To be really lean and hit those numbers natty.. lol not happening for ~98% of people who ever set foot in the gym.

I believe the main benefit of the big three is that they are training flexibility which pre-cludes the more fashionable and challenging clean and jerk type Oylimpic lifts, for which sheer size and strength alone are not enough by themselves. Anybody can inject the size and str, it is collagenous attenuation, synthesis of other hard to acquire tissue surface areas as cartilage and tendons that cannot be injected, must be trained to fruition gradually with no rushing or else injury, one good injury and it can be enough to set you back a lifetime. My recommendation is allow tendon and cartilage to grow first, build the knee and shoulder joints, the bone everywhere will shape to how it is used. Braces on teeth as example. The position of teeth is governed by external stresses. Braces apply those stresses and the result is the position of teeth- the bone- compensates from the stress. It didn't take that long did it? The first time baby walks the femur gets its big tendon attachment bone process as stress on the bone in that location pulls the femur. If you went to the moon and didn't exercise your bones would likely shrink at an alarming rate. All of this I am telling you now, reminding you, that the big 3 is a challenge to the bone of the body, it tries to make you thicker where it counts. All while allowing you to go deeper with power, more flexible and dangerous, ready to explode into a clean or other movements.

you are not natty.

Calisthenics > lifting. Especially if you are natty. You can always master new progressions, more fun, can show off athletic feats anywhere rather than needing a barbell, really dependent on lean mass meaning you can't just bulk and lift more, gymnast physique is way more aesthetic and functional than that of a bodybuilder or powerlifter, more safe and less chance of injury/long term damage, dont need an expensive gym membership or a bunch of equipment taking up space at your home, can work out anywhere....i could go on.

source: have done both.

No chit, cum eater...it’s never been claimed that. He still has no place in the discussion...now post from your real account.

It really is warming, isn’t it? Something about others excuses that just make it easier to excel...

Absolutely true on the freaks out there. Think about the powerlifting and oly lifting numbers that would be put up natty if people that went into baseball and pro football didn't go into the MLB or NFL. Yes, there are pussies that will immediately say "they take drugs in college too" which is true but there are so many talented people that can get to these levels and one thing they do not do is look for every excuse in the book to not train.

It's hilarious chit that gites on every day though. We were at the gym last night, I finish up and head downstairs as my girl finishes her last few sets. Some twink comes up and asks her "you guys into bodybuilding?" meanwhile I was up there for 90 minutes and he doesn't say a word until I leave...another bitch made move. She explains I do a combo and he even mentioned "yeah, she is a strong guy" then goes on to say he tried bodybuilding but it was "too hard" so he gave up...no pussy, you didn't want to do what it took to gain weight and get strong and you're mentally weak which is why you're still 168 lbs at almost 6 foot. "Oh I was doing it natty" lol ok cool bro...

I said, "should we go back and explain to him that I was just on the road for 3 days in 3 cities, in 3 hotels and several different airports and still managed to train 4 times while I was away. I came home, got out of bed early and went to the gym, hit a squat PR of 562x6 @ 216 then finished 3 leg accessories, went home to do my job, run errands and play dad...then went back to the gym that night and did OHP of 135x15, 155x10, 170x8, 185x6 and 205x3 then 5 shoulder accessories and still managed to get all my meals in for the day..." Must be the huge amount of not nattiness that drives all of this LOLOLOL

'Talented'

'TALENTED'

and thanks for the neg. Also pure bitch mode.

I was able to hit 3/4/5 before turning to the darkside. OP is a *******.

You had what 2k yesterday...seems I wasn't the only one baby boy. Make a callout and you'll get your squares back.

Lifters at or beyond intermediate level will deadlift more than they squat, and squat more than they bench

If you want bigger numbers, don't waste so much time doing high reps with low weights or you'll tire yourself out before you get to your true 5 rep max (e.g., yes do a warm up, but then as quickly as possible do sets of 1-2 reps of lighter weights to get to your 5RM, then do 3 sets of 5 as heavy as you can go, and increase that every lift as tolerated.) That said with BoobyDigitaloa et al in the house, they can give you far superior advice than I will give you.

what a baby, unbelievable

not always true, in fact, some lifters, myself included, are MUCH stronger with their squat, but in a perfect world, the squat and the deadlift should be equal (my quads are too strong compared to my hamstrings, but I'm working to correct that imbalance)

i've only been lifting for a bit more than 3 months, so no, not yet

but if i keep lifting im sure i will hit all of those for at least 1 rep by the end of the year

How is this thread 7 pages? Is it filled with OP is a *******?

how is this ******* not banned yet



its either that, or most likely ur squats are 1/4 depth

How is this thread 7 pages? Is it filled with OP is a *******?

Nobody has proved they can do it under 200 lbs while staying lean

Hahahaha

Post of the year. 3/4/5 in one year of training..

Must be a troll. Or retarded.

To be fair you are also clinically obese

Nobody has proved they can do it under 200 lbs while staying lean

To add more stats to the discussion. I hit a 405x1 high bar ATG squat in 8 months when I was 18-19. I was able to bench 225x5 no arch no pause. I stopped doing deadlifts but out of curiosity, I attempted and completed a 405x1 deadlift. The caveat is I got fat. Back then, the mainstream approach was 6-8 meals a day, GOMAD was also popular. I took both literally. As for how fat, waist was 39", I went from 185 to 220 in 3 months but stopped gaining weight after that. Unfortunately, I don't have video but the proof is out there somewhere. Anyone who lifted at Ritchie at UMD 2008-2009 can probably confirm seeing me hit those numbers. Further proof is when I start lifting again after my cut, assuming testosterone levels haven't plummeted, I should be able to get there again in a similar timeframe, this time with video.

1. Is OP actually on to something though? I definitely didn't look good. Despite a decent bench, my arms were 13.5" cold unflexed.
2. I know I can hit those numbers drug free but with the caveat of getting fat. Does it become much more difficult if lean?
3. Deadlift was at least as much as squat without training deadlift. Would this eventually stop working as the numbers go higher even if you did pullups for lats/grip?

So?

the OP had no mention of 200lbs or lean.

Nobody has proved they can do it under 200 lbs while staying lean