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post 1553753091 06-13-2018, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
My gym goes up to 150s, most guys will never need heavier than that.
Ugh lucky you. I've never seen them larger than ~100-120.
At 150s ya, that's massive...

Pretty sure some guys could make DB benching(1 hand) their GFs weight a requirement....
post 1553753121 06-13-2018, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted By tential⏩
It only takes like 5 seconds.
You max out with Dumbbells at a certain point, while you can keep adding weight to a barbell.

That's it. That one basic thing means you have to eventually do both no matter what if you keep getting stronger. So it's really just a silly debate to debate 1 vs the other.
You could skip out on BB bench, but you'd HAVE to eventually come back to it if you got strong enough.

I imagine for most miscers at their body weights, if they actually lifted longterm, I can't see how they could only use dumbbells.
Loading makes a difference. A substantial one at that. This is a fundamental principle of physics let alone lifting
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post 1553753171 06-13-2018, 02:28 PM
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I do both and enjoy both, but for a few years I focused only on db and i'm glad I did because now I throw up big db numbers -- then I did the same for bb and now my bb numbers are way up

now i alternate and have good numbers with both db and bb and it feelsgreatman
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
Heh I did a double take here - and you're right. Guys I know in my gym just happen to 'forget something' (like shorts) on leg day. Never seen a guy saying "I don't feel like benching, weighted pullups, barbell rows..." etc. But when it comes to squats/deadlifts, etc... you're absolutely right.
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I've done a lot of both, i actually think barbell bench is safer with the bars in the correct spot as you have less chance of ****ing up your shoulders and don't have to throw heavy dumbells around.

In short:

barbell for heavy weight/power

dumbell for stretch/hypertrophy
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post 1553753861 06-13-2018, 02:36 PM
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I honestly just bench with dumbbells (neutral grip, shoulder width) because I almost always have issues with my right rotator cuff when benching with a barbell, even with close-grip. Maybe my form with the barbell is trash, but I'd rather just avoid the movement altogether it like I've been doing.

Then again, I also have the same right (NEVER the left) rotator cuff problems when overhead pressing and doing dips.
post 1553754251 06-13-2018, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted By AlexTheNewbie⏩
I agree.Unilateral movements are almost always superior.

Some points to make for the dumbbell press:

- if **** hits the fan you can just drop them
- increased rom
- uses stabilizing muscles more
- same load for both sides, no imbalances
- healthier for your shoulder

Bench press:

- moar weys on the baahbell
The bolded is objectively wrong.
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post 1553759411 06-13-2018, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
I could but it would be a waste of my time. Despite your admitted total lack of development and experience, you've come to an opinion shared by few that have the opposite qualifications
I'm still young and open minded. I'm aware of your reputation as an experienced coach and would love to hear your reasoning.
Originally Posted By tential⏩
It only takes like 5 seconds.
You max out with Dumbbells at a certain point, while you can keep adding weight to a barbell.

That's it. That one basic thing means you have to eventually do both no matter what if you keep getting stronger. So it's really just a silly debate to debate 1 vs the other.
You could skip out on BB bench, but you'd HAVE to eventually come back to it if you got strong enough.
Not sure what you mean here. DB's can go as high as anyone needs them to excluding worlds strongest man/record breaking powerlifters/mr oly top 10.
Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Loading makes a difference. A substantial one at that. This is a fundamental principle of physics let alone lifting
I imagine one can "load" more weight onto a bar and press then the combination of 2 heavy DB's although I don't agree that means more load on the pec muscles specifically. When performing the barbell bench, secondary movers are more heavily recruited to bear the increased load. Correct me if I'm mistaken.
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post 1553760101 06-13-2018, 03:50 PM
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Why not do both?

But in reality, as a pure mass builder, barbell bench press is superior when executed correctly.

Also, you look decent but honestly your chest looks like it's lacking mass, maybe some BB bench will help
post 1553761141 06-13-2018, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted By TappingTheZen⏩
Why not do both?

But in reality, as a pure mass builder, barbell bench press is superior when executed correctly.

Also, you look decent but honestlyyour chest looks like it's lacking mass,maybe some BB bench will help
After avoiding any chest related movements for over 2 years due to having Thoracic outlet syndrome and maintaining sub 10% BF as a natty I would imagine my chest should be lacking.
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post 1553761271 06-13-2018, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Joseph1990⏩
Calorie deficit of peace 2,400~ cutting ATM, have only been lifting for 2 months with most of it being the "getting back into lifting" phase of mobility and going through the motions of compound movements to stimulate old neuro pathways.

5".95" 175lbs @ 10% currently pressing 110's for a slow controlled clean 5 reps.

I hadn't lifted with fitness equipment for a solid 2 years prior to this picture being taken. I was almost finished roofing my house this is after work.

What you see here is what I retained from staying active/labour work and eyeballing macros namely always trying to consume 100-140g protein daily.
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post 1553762451 06-13-2018, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
Not buying the 110s at 5 slow reps after 2 months lifting on a deficit. Sorry, boyo.
Yeah i don't see anyone really benching the 110's unless they are really big. 110's are so much heavier than the 90's and 100's. That's like a 275+ bench for 5 reps at least. Would be very hard to do on a deficit.
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post 1553762701 06-13-2018, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Yeah i don't see anyone really benching the 110's unless they are really big. 110's are so much heavier than the 90's and 100's. That's like a 275+ bench for 5 reps at least. Would be very hard to do on a deficit.
Just lol @ all of you who project your weaknesses onto others because you can't imagine someone else doing what you can't.
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post 1553763601 06-13-2018, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Yeah i don't see anyone really benching the 110's unless they are really big. 110's are so much heavier than the 90's and 100's. That's like a 275+ bench for 5 reps at least. Would be very hard to do on a deficit.
dude those are not that hard to hit. If your nutrition is on point and youre pushing yourself you should still make strength gains in a deficit.
post 1553766311 06-13-2018, 05:30 PM
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Cambered bench press was the best investment I've spent on bars.

Brb getting stronger on normal barbell because of it
Brb same ROM as dumbbells but can load more weight
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post 1553766411 06-13-2018, 05:31 PM
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Bet you don't deadlift and squat too because legpress and hyperextensions are sooo much better and safer for your health.

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post 1553768321 06-13-2018, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Crysthal⏩


Bet you don't deadlift and squat too because legpress and hyperextensions are sooo much better and safer for your health.

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post 1553768491 06-13-2018, 06:08 PM
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ITT DB copers dont realise chicks get soaked when they see a big bench bench press
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post 1553768681 06-13-2018, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted By JamesA1990⏩
ITT DB copers dont realise chicks get soaked when they see a big bench bench press
lol if you think they're not gasping for air when they see 3 digi DB's getting tossed around like cotton candy.
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post 1553768841 06-13-2018, 06:13 PM
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Nah.

Heavy dumbbells are too hard to manaouver into position.

The 180’s and up it’s hit and miss on getting them on knees by myself.
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post 1553768881 06-13-2018, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
dude those are not that hard to hit. If your nutrition is on point and youre pushing yourself you should still make strength gains in a deficit.
On a beginner program like AllPros Simple Beginner Routine lets say you trained for 7 months straight starting with a DB press of 45 lbs. You'd make it to about 90 lbs. Then you'd still have 5 months left to raise your DB press another 10-20 lbs using any other intermediate program and continuing to train.

It seems reasonable for anyone to accomplish of average starting bodyweight/height with some general fitness/lifting experience.

EOD could be benching that easily, he just refuses to put in the work and listen to people. Even bobbydigitaloa tried to help him, he's just not interested in doing anything other than what he wants in the gym, and then complaining later that he can't get to the next level.
post 1553769201 06-13-2018, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted By AusPower⏩
Nah.

Heavy dumbbells are too hard to manaouver into position.

The 180’s and up it’s hit and miss on getting them on knees by myself.
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TFW you have problems getting 180lb dumbbells on your knees and lots of people were excited to hit a 180lb bench lmao
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post 1553769451 06-13-2018, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By AusPower⏩
Nah.

Heavy dumbbells are too hard to manaouver into position.

The 180’s and up it’s hit and miss on getting them on knees by myself.
I don't understand how you would have trouble being as strong as you are. I'm much smaller and weaker and have gotten 145's into position alone. You must have poor technique when getting them into position.

I don't remember but I would guess my weight here is 180-185 lbs.

Keep your entire body tight and locking it into place, elbows slightly bent.
Rock forward and backwards then use the momentum to fall onto the bench in place with the weights at near top of the movement.

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It's much easier to progressively overload with BB bench.
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It doesn't ****ing matter. all that matters is that you stress tjhe **** out of the muscle by lifting heavy ass weight and eating a lot of clean ****ing food and protein. that and your dose.
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Originally Posted By giovannicapello⏩
not for me op, since the barbell forces me to do wide grip however with dumbells it's always a more narrow press. i'm all about developing dat dere wide chest, i can't stand a narrow chest
I'm tickled that you made an account just to post ITT. What makes you think that pressing narrow with DB's won't result in the chest width you desire?
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post 1553770411 06-13-2018, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted By giovannicapello⏩
not for me op, since the barbell forces me to do wide grip however with dumbells it's always a more narrow press. i'm all about developing dat dere wide chest, i can't stand a narrow chest
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Originally Posted By Crysthal⏩


Bet you don't deadlift and squat too because legpress and hyperextensions are sooo much better and safer for your health.

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Squat, deadlift, hyperextension crew here. I also do low cable glute pull throughs, swiss ball bridge + leg pull, weighted abdominals...u mad?


Just lmao if you skip leg day.
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Originally Posted By Dorich⏩
It's much easier to progressively overload with BB bench.
This. Smallest jump you can make with db's is 10lbs, way too much once you start getting strong
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Originally Posted By ralphlaurenbrah⏩
It doesn't ****ing matter. all that matters is that you stress tjhe **** out of the muscle by lifting heavy ass weight and eating a lot of clean ****ing food and protein. that and your dose.
No it does matter. As a Natty if you don't build up solid strength in the basic compounds you won't make it. A properly perioidised program with good exercise selection is essential.
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