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Originally Posted By greedyfly13⏩
it doesn't matter what happens to a random unknown person.what if instead of one person dies, one person gets tortured in the most extreme pain possible for all of eternity? you ****s still press?
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07-25-2018, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Classic thought problem. I'd say the best practice in isolation is to harvest those organs -- it does the most good.Not exactly the most convincing moral argument- killing someone and using their resources to save multiple others. Consider the analogy:
A doctor has 6 patients lying on their death beds, each with a specific organ that is failing (one has a failing heart, one has a failing liver, two have a failing kidney, and two have a failing lung). Is it moral for the doctor to just take one healthy human (say perhaps, you), and kill them, and use each of your 6 organs to save the other 6 people? lol don't think many would agree this is a moral action, and society clearly doesn't think so either.
A doctor has 6 patients lying on their death beds, each with a specific organ that is failing (one has a failing heart, one has a failing liver, two have a failing kidney, and two have a failing lung). Is it moral for the doctor to just take one healthy human (say perhaps, you), and kill them, and use each of your 6 organs to save the other 6 people? lol don't think many would agree this is a moral action, and society clearly doesn't think so either.
The problem becomes if society is aware of this function, it leads to larger problems, distrust, vigilantism, etc., thus this is not a good solution in practice, and we don't want to live in that society.
We don't really know if oP had such implications in mind or if it's an isolated button pressing never to be understood or repeated. I suppose that makes a difference.
07-25-2018, 12:18 PM
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Would suck if you pressed it and you died.
07-25-2018, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By greedyfly13⏩
In that case, no.what if instead of one person dies, one person gets tortured in the most extreme pain possible for all of eternity? you ****s still press?
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07-25-2018, 12:29 PM
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I have a strong belief in what goes around comes around. Karma type thing. To take someone's life for a monetary gain, I don't want that coming back around.
07-25-2018, 12:32 PM
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My answer is still the same...
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... hell no.
Originally Posted By likeawashboard⏩
Or the person you loved most died. THAT would be the ultimate karma.Would suck if you pressed it and you died.
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07-25-2018, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
Deal. I'll go to a kill shelter every 5 years and adopt a dog that's about to be put down, give him a great 5 years of life, and collect my money.Can’t be some random dog. Has to be yours and you have to have had him for at least 5 years. So if you want to do it every 5 years? Sure.
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07-25-2018, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By ChairmanWaffle⏩
Just out of curiosity, would your opinion change if say the 6 dying people were very frail and elderly (maybe like 95 yr olds), and the healthy person whose organs to be taken was a young 10 or 18 yr old?Classic thought problem. I'd say the best practice in isolation is to harvest those organs -- it does the most good.
The problem becomes if society is aware of this function, it leads to larger problems, distrust, vigilantism, etc., thus this is not a good solution in practice, and we don't want to live in that society.
We don't really know if oP had such implications in mind or if it's an isolated button pressing never to be understood or repeated. I suppose that makes a difference.
The problem becomes if society is aware of this function, it leads to larger problems, distrust, vigilantism, etc., thus this is not a good solution in practice, and we don't want to live in that society.
We don't really know if oP had such implications in mind or if it's an isolated button pressing never to be understood or repeated. I suppose that makes a difference.
(medicine is not my field and I'm not sure about the logistics of transplanting young organs to very old people, it is just a thought experiment and assume it can be done).
I get the greater good for more people thing, but I think many (including me) would find something fundamentally wrong about a doctor deliberately killing one person against their will to save 6 others. Even on the grounds of freedom alone......people might have a slightly easier time accepting that someone couldvoluntarilygive up their life to save 6 others, but not against their will, in which case there is a lack of freedom.
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07-25-2018, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By azerty23⏩
bruhi would press it a lot of times, and there is one chance out of 2 that the person who die is chinese ,indian or african...i would probably press it for 3.50

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Zero times unless I could be guaranteed it would be someone who didn't say zero. Then I'd press it until they were all gone and use the money to rescue dogs.
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07-25-2018, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted By DatFeelGuy⏩
What if that other person who didn't say zero pressed it for the exact reason you did...only because yetanotherperson didn't say zero. Then the middle person's reasons for pressing it seem a little more innocent, and in fact would be equivalent to your own reason for pressing itZero times unless I could be guaranteed it would be someone who didn't say zero. Then I'd press it until they were all gone and use the money to rescue dogs.
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07-25-2018, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted By AshWar⏩
same reason why most people eat meat and have no problem throwing it in the garbage can but rage when they see a hunter shoot a deer.What if instead of pressing the button, you have to stab someone to death? How is that any different?
people run on emotion, not logic.
07-25-2018, 01:08 PM
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I would just donate money each time to save a kid from cancer and call it even.
07-25-2018, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By greedyfly13⏩
Haha well put. Not vegetarian but can see the logic.same reason why most people eat meat and have no problem throwing it in the garbage can but rage when they see a hunter shoot a deer.
people run on emotion, not logic.
people run on emotion, not logic.
07-25-2018, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted By AshWar⏩
What if instead of pressing the button, you have to stab someone to death? How is that any different?
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07-25-2018, 02:44 PM
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I Googled "How fast can you click" and played one of those simple games. I clicked with one finger at a speed I feel I could keep up for as long as I wanted, and got about 500 per minute. That means it would take me 2000 minutes to click (tap) a million times, which is 33.33 hours, so about 2 days plus 2 hours if I'm stopping for necessities and 8 hours sleep. And we can assume that I would do this until my very last breath on Earth.
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
Lol at the responses on here immediately trying to figure out how fast they can possibly push the button. Misc gonna miscI Googled "How fast can you click" and played one of those simple games. I clicked with one finger at a speed I feel I could keep up for as long as I wanted, and got about 500 per minute. That means it would take me 2000 minutes to click (tap) a million times, which is 33.33 hours, so about 2 days plus 2 hours if I'm stopping for necessities and 8 hours sleep. And we can assume that I would do this until my very last breath on Earth.
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07-25-2018, 03:11 PM
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How about each time you press it your penor gets a little bit smaller. How many times would you press it then LMAO?
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07-25-2018, 03:17 PM
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I'm not even a religious person, but I don't think I could do it.
The chances of the random person dying actually deserving it is pretty damn slim.
Anyways, knowing my luck, I'd press that button once and I'd end up killing myself.
The chances of the random person dying actually deserving it is pretty damn slim.
Anyways, knowing my luck, I'd press that button once and I'd end up killing myself.
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07-25-2018, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Yes, I think it definitely depends on the individuals in question. Theoretically we could give some exact quantity to their remaining lives (with some potentially being negative.) Obviously we can't do that now and we surely wouldn't agree on how to define this, but I think at some future point we could. Then it just becomes a math problem. 1 person could be > 6 in some instances.Just out of curiosity, would your opinion change if say the 6 dying people were very frail and elderly (maybe like 95 yr olds), and the healthy person whose organs to be taken was a young 10 or 18 yr old?
(medicine is not my field and I'm not sure about the logistics of transplanting young organs to very old people, it is just a thought experiment and assume it can be done). .
(medicine is not my field and I'm not sure about the logistics of transplanting young organs to very old people, it is just a thought experiment and assume it can be done). .
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Originally Posted By AshWar⏩
It isn't.What if instead of pressing the button, you have to stab someone to death? How is that any different?
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Would press approx 1000 times.
Just enough to own my favorite sports team and be a phucking god.
Just enough to own my favorite sports team and be a phucking god.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Thought problems like this are interesting, and our intuitions don't always align with what makes logical sense. (Not staying you are wrong or right, just noting.)Jl.
I get the greater good for more people thing, but I think many (including me) would find something fundamentally wrong about a doctor deliberately killing one person against their will to save 6 others. Even on the grounds of freedom alone......people might have a slightly easier time accepting that someone couldvoluntarilygive up their life to save 6 others, but not against their will, in which case there is a lack of freedom.
I get the greater good for more people thing, but I think many (including me) would find something fundamentally wrong about a doctor deliberately killing one person against their will to save 6 others. Even on the grounds of freedom alone......people might have a slightly easier time accepting that someone couldvoluntarilygive up their life to save 6 others, but not against their will, in which case there is a lack of freedom.
A similar example: you have to choose to either wipe out a 5000 person village you've never heard of in some country you have never been to, or lose one member of your immediate family. It's hard to rationalize trading one life for 5000, but I'm guessing most people would save their one family member over those people they'd never meet or even be aware of.
Perhaps there is some argument to be made that the fact we value our family over others is important to human development or something, but at what point do the numerous outsiders equal one insider?
I don't claim to have an answer, but interested in how people would look at this.
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Hmmm do the ends justify the means...
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