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post 1561082541 09-12-2018, 08:05 AM
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The traditional mom jobs consists of the following: housekeeper, cook, day care center teacher, facilities manager, computer operator, psychologist, janitor, van driver, laundry machine operator, chief executive officer, bookkeeper, event planner, general maintenance worker, groundskeepers, interior design, logistics analyst, nutritionist, plumber and staff nurse.

The list for modern mom jobs is even longer: It includes the list above plus -- buyer, athletic trainer, photographer, social media marketing manager, academic advisor, tailor, recreational therapist, coach, tax accountant, judge, public school teacher, teacher vocational, education.



Social media marketing manager? Tax accountant?

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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123
Still waiting on these "studies"!
Here's something. **Not that I agree because I always worked and took care on the children/home/bills/errands while my husband worked as well. I'm just posting what I found**

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jennago.../#1698a92d75f4
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
If she's solely responsible for the housework and taking care of him and he's solely responsible for paying the bills, how is this unfair?

Studies show that if you put a pricetag on everything a housewife does, it amounts to an income of more than $150,000.

This is if she cooks, cleans, etc. Not just stay home and watch soaps all day.
C'mon now. Are you going to make me do the math on this or can we just admit your figure was pulled out of the air. Or selectively hand picked an area with the highest cost of living on the globe...
Originally Posted By TheRougarou646
Here's something. **Not that I agree because I always worked and took care on the children/home/bills/errands while my husband worked as well. I'm just posting what I found**

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jennago.../#1698a92d75f4
Lmao. The "methodology" if you can even call it that from whatever clown at Salary.com is so sad it's not even worth breaking down.

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Originally Posted By PeaceWithin
C'mon now. Are you going to make me do the math on this or can we just admit your figure was pulled out of the air. Or selectively hand picked an area with the highest cost of living on the globe...



Lmao. The "methodology" if you can even call it that from whatever clown at Salary.com is so sad it's not even worth breaking down.

9.5 hours as a "PC or Mac operator"

Is that what we call browsing ******** and mom blogs. Please...


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Originally Posted By badbl00d
The traditional mom jobs consists of the following: housekeeper, cook, day care center teacher, facilities manager, computer operator, psychologist, janitor, van driver, laundry machine operator, chief executive officer, bookkeeper, event planner, general maintenance worker, groundskeepers, interior design, logistics analyst, nutritionist, plumber and staff nurse.

The list for modern mom jobs is even longer: It includes the list above plus -- buyer, athletic trainer, photographer, social media marketing manager, academic advisor, tailor, recreational therapist, coach, tax accountant, judge, public school teacher, teacher vocational, education.

https://i.imgur.com/HEOuQev.jpg

Social media marketing manager? Tax accountant?

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they also leave out how she would have no qualifications or certifications to be a psychologist or plumber for example. just lol at the idea of any girl I've been with doing any plumbing work.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d
He's beneath a cuck, because he's effectively funding her "rainy day" fund. Unless your children are very young, your wife should want to work. She should want to feel the sense of pride it brings to make your own money. Even if I was ceo10k/day I still would want my wife to work, and want her to have that same ambition.
This but miscers think women with ambition are essentially men, so they're going to wife up some retarded sloot who wants to stay at home all day and be taken care of.

Won't be so cute when the kids are 15 and she has no useful skills to bring in money for the college fund.
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Well in a large portion of marriages, whether the woman works or not. The female has access to all of the finances and the husband typically puts his wants/dreams/goals on hold because his family comes first. How often is a man driving a brand new vehicle VS the wife? How often is a man buying new clothes vs his wife? How often is a man out buying things they want but don't need VS his wife? Oddly enough it seems like unemployed women have the worse spending habits and shop/spend money a lot more then employed women.


Assuming this guy is like you can't touch my finances but if you do XYZ I'll give you an allowance of ABC. Then its not a bad deal. I'd prefer to settle down with a woman with a professional career. But lets assume I don't lets look at what I'd expect to get out of an unemployed stay at home wife.



1. Up at 5:00AM to cook me breakfast every morning. Cooks a fresh lunch at 11:30 every single day and either brings it to me or has it ready at home. Cooks supper in the evening and has it ready for 7:00PM and on the table for me.

2. Cuts grass/edges/ up-keep the landscaping.

3. Washes/dries/folds/hangs/irons all laundry.

4. Cleans entire house. Dust/wipe down counters and mirrors, clean bathrooms, mops tile floors, polishes wood floors, etc.

5. Grocery shops/runs daily errands for all the house-hold necessities & opens/sorts the mail. Etc.


Assuming I was getting service like that from a female ^ it would be worth tossing her a few hundred bucks worth of spending money per week so she could shop/do whatever with her friends in her down time. Thing is, if she gets fat she's out the door. If she gets lazy and can't accomplish all of the above then its by by money. That's probably the ideal living situation assuming your finances are to a place where you can afford that ^. You have complete control over the relationship.
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Originally Posted By Mumra
they also leave out how she would have no qualifications or certifications to be a psychologist or plumber for example. just lol at the idea of any girl I've been with doing any plumbing work.
The plumbing comes out of the expense account brah. Just lol @ Judge, and Academic Advisor. BRB telling little Timmy he isn't college material, because he can't color within the lines.
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Just LOL if your wife isn't clearing $250,000 a year, and you still owe her $150,000 a year more because she folded the laundry.

BRB this is 2018 beech, I changed your minivan oil you owe me $175,000
BRB need something on the way home? $100 minimum for my time
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Originally Posted By guest89
Well in a large portion of marriages, whether the woman works or not. The female has access to all of the finances and the husband typically puts his wants/dreams/goals on hold because his family comes first. How often is a man driving a brand new vehicle VS the wife? How often is a man buying new clothes vs his wife? How often is a man out buying things they want but don't need VS his wife? Oddly enough it seems like unemployed women have the worse spending habits and shop/spend money a lot more then employed women.


Assuming this guy is like you can't touch my finances but if you do XYZ I'll give you an allowance of ABC. Then its not a bad deal. I'd prefer to settle down with a woman with a professional career. But lets assume I don't lets look at what I'd expect to get out of an unemployed stay at home wife.



1. Up at 5:00AM to cook me breakfast every morning. Cooks a fresh lunch at 11:30 every single day and either brings it to me or has it ready at home. Cooks supper in the evening and has it ready for 7:00PM and on the table for me.

2. Cuts grass/edges/ up-keep the landscaping.

3. Washes/dries/folds/hangs/irons all laundry.

4. Cleans entire house. Dust/wipe down counters and mirrors, clean bathrooms, mops tile floors, polishes wood floors, etc.

5. Grocery shops/runs daily errands for all the house-hold necessities & opens/sorts the mail. Etc.


Assuming I was getting service like that from a female ^ it would be worth tossing her a few hundred bucks worth of spending money per week so she could shop/do whatever with her friends in her down time.Thing is, if she gets fat she's out the door.If she gets lazy and can't accomplish all of the above then its by by money. That's probably the ideal living situation assuming your finances are to a place where you can afford that ^. You have complete control over the relationship.
If she gets fat she's out the door? You mean you're out the door? Because you're going to get raped for dropping your fat wife, and be living in some tent city after the courts are done with you.
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Neither me or my wife work , we take Home just over 10k a month in govt aid. lol at people that pay taxes
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Neither me or my wife work , we take Home just over 10k a month in govt aid. lol at people that pay taxes
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
If she's solely responsible for the housework and taking care of him and he's solely responsible for paying the bills, how is this unfair?

Studies show that if you put a pricetag on everything a housewife does, it amounts to an income of more than $150,000.

This is if she cooks, cleans, etc. Not just stay home and watch soaps all day.
150k?
no fukkin way

also 99% of women these days can't cook for sh*t

I'll.fukking cook myself
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
If she's solely responsible for the housework and taking care of him and he's solely responsible for paying the bills, how is this unfair?

Studies show that if you put a pricetag on everything a housewife does, it amounts to an income of more than $150,000.

This is if she cooks, cleans, etc. Not just stay home and watch soaps all day.
Yeah, nah. A 'study' that equated a line cook to an exec chef. Even then, cooking at home is nothing like being in the weeds of a professional kitchen. Executive chefs might make 70k, work around 60 hours a week (no overtime obviously, it's a salaried position). I'm sure parents spend hours breaking down food costs and doing quarterly business reviews with their food distributor while baby powdering their balls and switching out ice rags for their neck. Any idiot can get a one pot meal on the table in under 20 minutes.

This kind of bullchit devalues the hard work that actual professionals do. I'm not saying a stay at home parent's job is not difficult, but it is difficult and valuable in different ways.

The idea of having an allowance is also really weird. If you don't trust your spouse making sound financial decisions, the solution is not playing Daddy.

Absolutely nothing wrong with being a SAHP. But hard eye roll at a Domestic Engineer's imaginary salary being 150,000.
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Doesn't matter what you call it. It's been a thing since ever. From at-home wives all the way to "trophy" wives to outright harems.


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Originally Posted By redraider86
Yeah, nah. A 'study' that equated a line cook to an exec chef. Even then, cooking at home is nothing like being in the weeds of a professional kitchen. Executives chef might make 70k, work around 70 hours a week (no overtime obviously, it's a salaried position). I'm sure parents spend hours breaking down food costs and doing quarterly business reviews with their food distributer while baby powdering their balls and switching out ice rags for their neck. Any idiot can get a one pot meal on the table in under 20 minutes.

This kind of bullchit devalues the hard work that actual professionals do. I'm not saying a stay at home parent's job is not difficult, but it is difficult in different ways.

The idea of having an allowance is also really weird. If you don't trust your spouse making sound financial decisions, the solution is not playing Daddy.

Absolutely nothing wrong with being a SAHP. But hard eye roll at a Domestic Engineer's imaginary salary being 150,000.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d
woodpayyoutocookforme/10 ...I had a wet dream about that chicken and rice dish you posted.
LOL, was it good for you?

That dish took me maybe 10 active minutes to put together. I'm sure it'll hurt some feels, but it's just not the same as being at a station and cranking out service.
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On the flip side, working in offices, I've seen so many "Work Husbands." Im not saying they always end up cheating together; however, its not a huge outlier or anything.
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Originally Posted By redraider86
LOL, was it good for you?

That dish took me maybe 10 active minutes to put together. I'm sure it'll hurt some feels, but it's just not the same as being at a station and cranking out service.
It was so good, I had to go outside and get some fresh air. Being on line seems so intense. It's hot, hectic, loud, you definitely have to be a special breed to do that for a living. After catching a small glimpse of it, I can understand why so many have "vices".
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The reality of it is that your wife, anyones wife is with them because of what the wife can gain from being with the person

But this works both ways, a man is with his wife because of what she can do for him

There's a selfish reality to how the relationship between the 2 works, the average person thinks "they care about eachother, therefore they're in a relationship"... that's true but it's not that simple... it's not that someone simply cares about someone, it's that they care about them in relation to how that effects their own life and their own feels. Love at it's root is selfish, just as all human actions/interactions are at their root.

So now that we have concluded that a person is with another person because of what that person does for them, selfish reasons.

Is it beta to know that your wife is only with your for your money? Depends if what she's essentially charging is worth it for you, and so that's relative from person to person

Understand that there's some men out there that are hideous, and their only means of having a beautiful wife is based on the amount of money they possess (99% of the time, a hideous brah gets lucky once in a while, it's not the norm, it's the outlier)

So Chads use their good looks, charming personality, and big dicks to attract women (In this case Chad is providing the woman with someone good to look at every day, a charming personality to make her smile, and a big dick to keep her satisfied) Think of this as Chad using a currency to get what he wants.

Now Timothy doesn't have good looks, charming personality, and he got a small dick... he started with zero currency... Timothy needs to acquire currency that he was not born with in order to get what he wants from the world... that currency is the money we use in everyday life

So simply put, both Chad and Timothy are using currency to acquire what they want, it's just that they're using a different type of currency. The Timothy has to earn his currency, the Chads currency was "god given"

Timothy has no other options but to essentially pay for a wife using the currency of money (if he wants 10/10 wife)

So to conclude, it's not beta, it's the only/easiest option some men have, you could even look at it in another way and say it's alpha... you're employing a woman to be your bish, tidy your house, make you food, pretend she enjoys it when you phuk her with your Timothy dick, etc...
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
If she's solely responsible for the housework and taking care of him and he's solely responsible for paying the bills, how is this unfair?


Studies show that if you put a pricetag on everything a housewife does, it amounts to an income of more than $150,000.

This is if she cooks, cleans, etc. Not just stay home and watch soaps all day.
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as hard as a stay at home mom's job could possibly be it's still a job that can be done in pajamas without giving the slightest bit of care into "getting dressed" for a job.
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Originally Posted By Bigdumogre
Neither me or my wife work , we take Home just over 10k a month in govt aid. lol at people that pay taxes
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Originally Posted By Mumra
as hard as a stay at home mom's job could possibly be it's still a job that can be done in pajamas without giving the slightest bit of care into "getting dressed" for a job.
Have stayed home with 3 kids on numerous occasions. I can confirm that it's not difficult compared to my normal job. What really kills you is the psychological stress of having no adult interaction, kids constantly whining, etc. The actual tasks you perform as a stay at home parent are cake.
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Sorry for the delay, I had work to do, but here you go

Forbes:https://www.forbes.com/sites/jennago.../#3f68181e75f4

Not so powerful dailymail:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...68-income.html

Business Insider:https://www.businessinsider.com/valu...me-moms-2013-5

Telegraph:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...ife-worth.html

I was off by a few thousand. But forget about the stats, let's dissect the numbers for ahardworkinghousewife. No, this does not mean someone who sits around and social medias it all day.

Traditional housewife duties:

- Dusting, cleaning the floors, cleaning the furniture, cleaning the bathrooms - everything is maintained in the house. I hired someone to do this in an EMPTY house (when I was vacating my previous home) and she charged $350 for 4 hours of work. And still the cleaning wasn't on par.

- Cooking - even if she's not Gordon Ramsey status, food preparation includes shopping for ingredients, prepping, cooking, then cleaning up after including washing dishes. Think about the costs associated with each of these jobs.

- Laundry - washing and ironing/folding, ONE button down shirt for dry cleaning costs approximately $3. Again, do the math.

I'm not adding in her supporting/caring for her husband, because that's done out of love alone. Now add kids and the costs associated with childcare.

Again, I think the duties of a housewife, if she does them properly, are far undervalued. I'm a housewife who chooses to work full time too. Whether or not I work, my primary job duties are the household work.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
Sorry for the delay, I had work to do, but here you go

Forbes:https://www.forbes.com/sites/jennago.../#3f68181e75f4

Not so powerful dailymail:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...68-income.html

I was off by a few thousand. But forget about the stats, let's dissect the numbers for ahardworkinghousewife. No, this does not mean someone who sits around and social medias it all day.

Traditional housewife duties:

- Dusting, cleaning the floors, cleaning the furniture, cleaning the bathrooms - everything is maintained in the house. I hired someone to do this in an EMPTY house (when I was vacating my previous home) and she charged $350 for 4 hours of work. And still the cleaning wasn't on par.

- Cooking - even if she's not Gordon Ramsey status, food preparation includes shopping for ingredients, prepping, cooking, then cleaning up after including washing dishes. Think about the costs associated with each of these jobs.

- Laundry - washing and ironing/folding, ONE button down shirt for dry cleaning costs approximately $3. Again, do the math.

I'm not adding in her supporting/caring for her husband, because that's done out of love alone. Now add kids and the costs associated with childcare.

Again, I think the duties of a housewife, if she does them properly, are far undervalued. I'm a housewife who chooses to work full time too. Whether or not I work, my primary job duties are the household work.
Off by a few thousand?

150k.... 115k... >20% discrepancy lol
C'mon now. Those articles are a joke and you are killing your own argument by posting them. Taking the average salary for people at the top of their field and extrapolating one or two responsibilities now means a housewife performs their role?

Muzzie pls.
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Originally Posted By PeaceWithin
Off by a few thousand?

150k.... 115k... >20% discrepancy lol
C'mon now. Those articles are a joke and you are killing your own argument by posting them. Taking the average salary for people at the top of their field and extrapolating one or two responsibilities now means a housewife performs their role?

Muzzie pls.
Sorry, my mistake. I read the article on the fly a few months ago, was off by the number.

Posted more articles.

Most of the articles are about women who have kids. Here's a graph showing the breakdown:



And we can argue forever about people who do 'jobs' yet are on the misc all day and/or on other social media. Do we want to place a dollar amount on how much they "truly" work?
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
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Again, I think the duties of a housewife, if she does them properly, are far undervalued. I'm a housewife who chooses to work full time too. Whether or not I work, my primary job duties are the household work.
The value of doing what a housewife does is nowhere near the value of $150k though, linking articles doesn't change that

People work full time jobs and don't even make 1/5th of that.

But cooking once or twice per day, and cleaning a house and doing laundry, which can be done in the luxury of your own home, and barely take up anytime at all, and can be done whenever you feel like it, and is easy work... is worth $150k?

Nope

So you'll say "But raising kids is a full time job"... yeah it's a full time job, but they're your kids and it was your decision to have them, and raising them is something you actually want to do. It would be different if you were raising someone elses kids/worked as a nanny.

You're obviously biased in your view, as you're a housewife, and you'll want to argue the point... but it's not worth 150k (by any objective measurement with is relative to what other people with jobs that earn them $150k require them to do)
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