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post 1562825221 10-03-2018, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Steven Crowder wasn't prepared to deal with this College kid.

He kept cutting the kid off when he was answering his questions. Also he made short speeches, whilst explicitly only wanting the kid to reply in short sentences...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnlGG-UpJcg
But I thought he was just trying to “own the libs” for views!!!???
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Originally Posted By TunaTunaTuna⏩
Except that:
1) He doesn’t just set up on campuses. He’s set up on the street. He set up at the freaking Texas Deomcratic convention for one segment. He set up in front of the White House.
2) Even for the ones on campus, he doesn’t just limit it to students. I recall at least one where a professor came down and got involved.
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
How is that a response to my post?

I saw that segment when it aired. I thought Crowder lost that argument and performed poorly in it. As did many others in the comments. Guess what? He still posted it. He didn’t edit that out. And it’s still up on his channel. That doesn’t seem like the behavior of somebody just out to make himself look good by preying on ignorant college kids.
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Originally Posted By BaySeaAnd⏩
I agree he is cheap shotting these random kids and it comes off like a lame highlight clip of a bad CS player
by cheap shotting you mean asking them to prove their opinions why there’s a rape culture in the US. This video is alarming. Every single person besides Marley initially agreed with his definition of rape culture and completely went against said definition not a minute later. I know they’re young, but they’re old enough to have their views challenged in a non violent, intellectual way.
But at the very least I do agree with his notion that we don't have a culture of rape in the US. The phrase itself is very extreme and imho he's right that it implies something totally untrue; US does not systemically support rape. In fact its quite the opposite since we outlaw it, condemn it, and have harsh punishments for that crime.
First chick and the the two guys glossed over this every single time he said it. The first chick had her phone out and could’ve easily googled stats by the FBI, CIA, etc. I’m sure everyone he talked to had phones on them..[/quote]

[QUOTE]I think thats the only good part of[b]his little PR stunt here[/b]- that he is trying to dismantle that very extreme assumption and instead promote the idea that rape is not wanted or tolerated here (hence it being a crime).[/QUOTE]The bolded is a dismissive statement regularing his opinion useless. You just agreed with his sentiment in the sentence right above but then you dismiss it in the very next one? And it’s rape culture, not rape. You’re blending them just like guy number 1 did[/quote]

[QUOTE]HOWEVER that isn't to say rape doesn't happen or is an issue to be completely ignored. Its a heinous crime to be sure, and people in positions of power (political, high powered industry) need to be held accountable for that and any other crimes. It does happen and should be prosecuted by due process.[/QUOTE]back to agreeing with him

The marley girl had a great leveled headed approach to the subject and crowders annoying display.[/QUOTE]
Level headed? She agreed with him. That’s the only reason she seemed level headed to you. It was also the reason her portion was so short. There’s no debate with people who share your opinion. How was it annoying? You sound as emotional as the young men in that video.
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
Define

support and

tolerate.

in terms of rape.

What does it mean to you.










lmao

what a phucking moron.

only thing he can do is interrupt that 18 year old that owned him.
Yeah this was terrible. The young man held his own. He made valid points where he could before being interrupted and the course of the debate being changed. That’s a strategy he tried to use several times here. Kid did well to acknowledge it and call him on it.
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Originally Posted By Clkflynn⏩
judge kavanaugh currently under investigation by the FBI for rape allegations
Tump mocks the women accusing him.
What exactly is the judge being accused of?
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I mean come on people, isn't it insulting to actual rape victims, that rape is being used to define things like drunk sex, regrettable sex, a grope, catcalling, etc?
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How did he not know who Kavanaugh is?
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Originally Posted By mynameisuntz⏩
How did he not know who Kavanaugh is?
It was a test, he was playing dumb.
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As long as we're going anecdotal, I have

- one female friend who admitted to me she made up a rape charge because she smashed a dude at a party and then found out he knows her boyfriend, so she did a pre-emptive strike (no longer friends)

- one female friend who admitted to me she made up a rape charge because the guy pulled out and came on her face without warning her (dont talk to her anymore)

- my best brah, who got head from a girl in his class and then ghosted her, and she was so butthurt she told her bf he raped her. he and his friends came with baseball bats to my friends place, and were gonna smash his face until we told them it was consensual. the bf, obviously knowing his girl was a mega sloot, then left

All in college btw. *shrug*

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If he shouldn't talk about rape culture with college students because "their brains are not fully developed" why are these kids allowed to vote? Why are the allowed to operate vehicles? Why are they allowed to do any adult things?

They approached him on their own volition. If they aren't prepared why even sit down to talk? How can you strongly hold an opinion and try to challenge someone if you can't even logically and rational defend your stance? These college kids need to have their views challenged.
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Originally Posted By BrahBrahgovich⏩
If he shouldn't talk about rape culture with college students because "their brains are not fully developed" why are these kids allowed to vote? Why are the allowed to operate vehicles? Why are they allowed to do any adult things?

They approached him on their own volition. If they aren't prepared why even sit down to talk? How can you strongly hold an opinion and try to challenge someone if you can't even logically and rational defend your stance? These college kids need to have their views challenged.
Some people, we know who they are, just love to make excuses.
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It may have been stated already ITT, but to the people who are siding with the guy around ~40:00 who said something along the lines of Crowder being prepared for a debate and them not being prepared...if you're going to have a view that rape culture exist (or any view for that matter) shouldn't you do some research on the topic?

I've seen some of his videos where the person with the opposing viewpoint does give a solid argument, or at least makes you think a bit on it, as opposed to a lot of the rah rah rah most of the other debaters spew. (That gets the view though amirite?)

Point being is if you're going to have a certain viewpoint, it'd be wise to do a little research on the topic rather than making blind convictions
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Originally Posted By ChknFrydMFer⏩
to the people who are siding with the guy around ~40:00 who said something along the lines of Crowder being prepared for a debate and them not being prepared...if you're going to have a view that rape culture exist (or any view for that matter) shouldn't you do some research on the topic?
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Originally Posted By ChknFrydMFer⏩
It may have been stated already ITT,but to the people who are siding with the guy around ~40:00 who said something along the lines of Crowder being prepared for a debate and them not being prepared...if you're going to have a view that rape culture exist (or any view for that matter) shouldn't you do some research on the topic?

I've seen some of his videos where the person with the opposing viewpoint does give a solid argument, or at least makes you think a bit on it, as opposed to a lot of the rah rah rah most of the other debaters spew. (That gets the view though amirite?)

Point being is if you're going to have a certain viewpoint, it'd be wise to do a little research on the topic rather than making blind convictions
Do you really think normal people sit all day thinking about whether rape culture exists or not.

The people that argued with him had some experience with rape or know someone that did. Notice how 80% of people in video just walked bye camera didn't give a phuck because it doesn't concern them.

His binder of stats will never change that girls mind.


Its like going to Missouri and telling african american all cops are good logic after their unarmed son is killed by police officer.

Impossible to separate emotions.



.........................

He is 100% doing it just for youtube views.

Nothing of any value is gained from his idiotic views.

Pick broad reaching topic.

Group it into one big category.

Try and trigger people.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Steven Crowder wasn't prepared to deal with this College kid.

He kept cutting the kid off when he was answering his questions. Also he made short speeches, whilst explicitly only wanting the kid to reply in short sentences...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnlGG-UpJcg
This is why it's so hard to take this new breed of conservative internet intellectual (him, shapiro, etc) in the least bit seriously. If your whole premise that you went out to challenge people with can be swiftly undone by "so why do you support the police and military then?" you really must have spent under 5 minutes thinking about your own position

And I don't think this kid did an amazing job either, he spent a lot of time faffing with irrelevant points like immigration but when he finally zero'd in on the issue Crowder couldn't do anything but deflect and interrupt
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
Do you really think normal people sit all day thinking about whether rape culture exists or not.

The people that argued with him had some experience with rape or know someone that did. Notice how 80% of people in video just walked bye camera didn't give a phuck because it doesn't concern them.

His binder of stats will never change that girls mind.


Its like going to Missouri and telling african american all cops are good logic after their unarmed son is killed by police officer.

Impossible to separate emotions.



.........................

He is 100% doing it just for youtube views.

Nothing of any value is gained from his idiotic views.

Pick broad reaching topic.

Group it into one big category.

Try and trigger people.
First off, was that girl, and the "majority of her friends," raped? Or were they pumped and dumped, or a drunken hookup?
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Originally Posted By BrocepCurls⏩
This is why it's so hard to take this new breed of conservative internet intellectual (him, shapiro, etc) in the least bit seriously. If your whole premise that you went out to challenge people with can be swiftly undone by "so why do you support the police and military then?" you really must have spent under 5 minutes thinking about your own position

And I don't think this kid did an amazing job either, he spent a lot of time faffing with irrelevant points like immigration but when he finally zero'd in on the issue Crowder couldn't do anything but deflect and interrupt
If you want even the slightest chance of being taken seriously after your commie past, don't ever lump Shapiro in with Crowder again.

Shapiro has covered the "military is socialism!!!" argument multiple times.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
First off, was that girl, and the "majority of her friends," raped? Or were they pumped and dumped, or a drunken hookup?
how can he/we know whether she was or wasn't?

what is "majority"?

I am willing to bet that girl (she looked emotionally unstable)

has 2-3 real friends.

And high chance they probably went through something dramatic like her.
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
how can he/we know whether she was or wasn't?

what is "majority"?

I am willing to bet that girl (she looked emotionally unstable)

has 2-3 real friends.

And high chance they probably went through something dramatic like her.
That's the thing with Crowder. If I was debating someone who told me they are a rape victim, and began displaying clear signs of being emotionally unstable, I would find a way of ending the debate diplomatically ("I would like to debate someone else now. Please stick around and listen if you want, and we can talk later").I wouldn't put her acting hysterical on the thumbnail to get views.

He fast forwarded through a bunch of other debates he had with people in the video, but purposefully chose to use hers.

I debated a Palestinian before, about the Israel-Palestine conflict. Dude began to get emotional, I ended the debate, because my goal wasn't to 'trigger' him.
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
The problem is you are using the traditional definition of rape and not the feminist version of rape.

Society does glorify the ability for a man to say pick up a chick at the bar. However, as we know:
Spoiler!


This is rape.

Spoiler!


Apparently so is this.


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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
how can he/we know whether she was or wasn't?

what is "majority"?

I am willing to bet that girl (she looked emotionally unstable)

has 2-3 real friends.

And high chance they probably went through something dramatic like her.
The way she makes it sound, is that everyone is getting raped in college.
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
If you want even the slightest chance of being taken seriously after your commie past, don't ever lump Shapiro in with Crowder again.

Shapiro has covered the "military is socialism!!!" argument multiple times.
Just because Shapiro is a better debater and more eloquent sounding doesn't mean their arguments aren't equally garbage much of the time

Crowder has never managed to explain why forcing people to pay for things he likes is OK while forcing people to pay for things he doesn't like is "evil". Doubt someone with as many chromosomes as you would be able to tell either way
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Originally Posted By Jax05⏩
damn steven really rustled some jimmies lol
Gotta hand it to the blonde who supported his right to be there. First chick obviously has issues, and had to resort to crying, when she couldn't support her position.
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University Offers Counseling Services To Students Upset By Steven Crowder’s “Rape Culture Is A Myth” Stunt
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36702...nts-ashe-schow
LOL snowflakes
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Originally Posted By JonathanN173⏩
University Offers Counseling Services To Students Upset By Steven Crowder’s “Rape Culture Is A Myth” Stunt
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36702...nts-ashe-schow
LOL snowflakes
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Originally Posted By BrocepCurls⏩
Just because Shapiro is a better debater and more eloquent sounding doesn't mean their arguments aren't equally garbage much of the time

Crowder has never managed to explain why forcing people to pay for things he likes is OK while forcing people to pay for things he doesn't like is "evil". Doubt someone with as many chromosomes as you would be able to tell either way
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