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post 1568594331 12-13-2018, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Devils⏩
Keep it up brah, you can do it!
will be as lean as your avatar by end of 2019 semisrs. inb4 weight drops into double digits
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post 1568594931 12-13-2018, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Lucifer plz respond
To what?
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post 1568594951 12-13-2018, 07:14 PM
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Good work OP, Still quite far but you gave it your best.

Hopefully no ban since you crack me up on the daily
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post 1568595311 12-13-2018, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
will be as lean as your avatar by end of 2019 semisrs. inb4 weight drops into double digits
I think you're in no position to continue to make unrealistic goals lmao, look where it got you already. Just keep at it, set yourself a 5lbs goal right now and make sure you reach your targets each week.
It should take 8 weeks tops to get visible abs, so keep going. Let the mods let you back in once you can post the pics.
post 1568595781 12-13-2018, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
To what?
Post number 487. His follow up cardio question.
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post 1568595801 12-13-2018, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Devils⏩
I think you're in no position to continue to make unrealistic goals lmao, look where it got you already. Just keep at it, set yourself a 5lbs goal right now and make sure you reach your targets each week.
It should take 8 weeks tops to get visible abs, so keep going. Let the mods let you back in once you can post the pics.
lol. all of that's the plan.

i remember reading posts you made in a thread years ago where people were asking you how you got so lean and you were answering matter-of-factly about simply making adjustments to maintain the deficit as the cut progressed and that there's nothing to it, you just have to eat less. i feel like i've finally gotten to that point. the difference though is if i recall correctly, you'd eat anything, but would just manage the calories. i prefer to eat all unrefined chit to increase food bulk.
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post 1568598471 12-13-2018, 07:54 PM
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I'm still confused about cardio not to be counted as part of the deficit.

If maintenance is 2000 and you do 200 cal of cardio why wouldn't your total be 1800?
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post 1568598761 12-13-2018, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I'm still confused about cardio not to be counted as part of the deficit.

If maintenance is 2000 and you do 200 cal of cardio why wouldn't your total be 1800?
my reasoning is that if you take any of the cardio-free cuts that any of these guys have done and you add 1 hour of walking to it per day, it goes faster. if you add another hour, it goes even faster. i'm just spending my free time fukken around anyway, i enjoy walking and there's universal agreement in science and medicine that it's healthier than not doing it, so...
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post 1568599351 12-13-2018, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I'm still confused about cardio not to be counted as part of the deficit.

If maintenance is 2000 and you do 200 cal of cardio why wouldn't your total be 1800?
Cardio is bonus, you shouldn't count it as negative calories.
Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
i remember reading posts you made in a thread years ago where people were asking you how you got so lean and you were answering matter-of-factly about simply making adjustments to maintain the deficit as the cut progressed and that there's nothing to it, you just have to eat less. i feel like i've finally gotten to that point. the difference though is if i recall correctly, you'd eat anything, but would just manage the calories. i prefer to eat all unrefined chit to increase food bulk.
Yeah it's the small sacrifices you make to get to the goal, like doing overtime at work to save money for a house deposit, it's the similar delay of gratification.
I'm more relaxed now about food choices while cutting because I've built the mental discipline to handle it, but yeah having unrefined whole foods is a much better approach if you can stick with it.
post 1568599361 12-13-2018, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
my reasoning is that if you take any of the cardio-free cuts that any of these guys have done and you add 1 hour of walking to it per day, it goes faster. if you add another hour, it goes even faster. i'm just spending my free time fukken around anyway, i enjoy walking and there's universal agreement in science and medicine that it's healthier than not doing it, so...
That's my thought. I'm just confused by Lucifer's comment
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post 1568599431 12-13-2018, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
the cardio constitutes half my deficit though. wood have to eat 1100 to be in the same spot without it
1100 is ridiculously low, my cutting cals are double that. 500cal deficit is adequate to preserve muscle and strength.

I do cardio, Iโ€™m just saying itโ€™s a detail. I donโ€™t want it to go faster. I eat back any cals I burn with extra cardio.
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post 1568599701 12-13-2018, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
1100 is ridiculously low, my cutting cals are double that. 500cal deficit is adequate to preserve muscle and strength.
I wouldn't lose a pound at 2200. I'm predicting 1650 if I don't do cardio by the time I'm done.
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post 1568599941 12-13-2018, 08:09 PM
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RF how much are you eating without counting the exercise?
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post 1568600071 12-13-2018, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
RF how much are you eating without counting the exercise?
bout 1600. i feel like i have to increase it if i lift with higher volume though.

i swear i could have eaten 1200kcals the entire time with zero activity of any kind and been much further along, although i would eventually look worse than the machinist
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post 1568600701 12-13-2018, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
bout 1600. i feel like i have to increase it if i lift with higher volume though.

i swear i could have eaten 1200kcals the entire time with zero activity of any kind and been much further along, although i would eventually look worse than the machinist
I've been on 2k since Saturday. First week pics up in the morning.
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post 1568602451 12-13-2018, 08:37 PM
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Lucifer and Devils respond in the same page of this thread. What kind of thread is this supposed to be?

Y'all need some holy water up in here.
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post 1568628711 12-14-2018, 07:44 AM
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Cardio definitely makes it so you can eat more.

When I cut the first time at 225 @ 25-30%, was legit a fat ass. I started off eating 2600 cals a day and lost weight without cardio just lifting. Then I got a FitBit HR and started doing the exact same cardio as Ratfish. Just slow ass walking for 60 minutes a day in the woods on a trail near my house and the FitBit said I would burn like 480+ calories from that and would automatically sync up with My fitness pal and add calories that I could eat.

Followed what it said even though some days from lifting and cardio it said I could eat 3,000 cals and be in a 750 cal deficit lol. I'm a firm believer that it doesn't matter what you eat cause I was drinking my entire cut. I drank beer so switched to Miller Lite for my cut cuz it was 96 calories per 12 oz. Would drink 8-12 beers 4-5 days a week, sometimes if I wanted more I would make a deal with myself that I had to walk to the store (1 mile uphill so it was hard lol) which was extra cardio).

My whole diet was mainly beer, ground beef, turkey, salad, chicken, mashed potatoes, Greek yogurt etc. Lifting 4-5 days a week and LISS 5-6 days a week. It took me like 12 months to lose the 65 pounds but I had like 1 or 2 days a week where I'd say screw it and binge to keep my sanity. Still went from 225 @ 25% to 160 @ 9-10%. Never trained abs though, only relied on squats/deadlift and weighted chins. Next time I bulk I'll do direct ab work.

Start:


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Said fuk that and slowly bulked back up to 175 @ 12-13% and felt better.








After that I got lazy and stopped lifting for 9 months, got back up to 205 @ 20-22% and literally saw this thread. It gave me motivation to get back in shape (srs). Now I'm down to 191 pounds and trying to get back to 170. I don't drink anymore so it's been a bit easier. Haven't done cardio yet and been going to the gym 3 times a week. Will start walking again and maybe lift 4-5 days a week once March hits depending on where I stand.

You're doing the Lords work OP. Motivating at least one miscer (and likely more) because you're one of 2018s GOAT posters. Free Ratfish 2019 if he gets banned. Das it mane.
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post 1568629801 12-14-2018, 07:58 AM
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Lol at cutting on 32 beers a week
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Originally Posted By Fit1NYC⏩
Lol at cutting on 32 beers a week
Some habits die hard bruh. I'm off that alcoholic time now though. Just saying that it worked out for me as long as I tracked calories.
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Originally Posted By hiimnotcool⏩
Cardio definitely makes it so you can eat more.

When I cut the first time at 225 @ 25-30%, was legit a fat ass. I started off eating 2600 cals a day and lost weight without cardio just lifting. Then I got a FitBit HR and started doing the exact same cardio as Ratfish. Just slow ass walking for 60 minutes a day in the woods on a trail near my house and the FitBit said I would burn like 480+ calories from that and would automatically sync up with My fitness pal and add calories that I could eat.

Followed what it said even though some days from lifting and cardio it said I could eat 3,000 cals and be in a 750 cal deficit lol. I'm a firm believer that it doesn't matter what you eat cause I was drinking my entire cut. I drank beer so switched to Miller Lite for my cut cuz it was 96 calories per 12 oz. Would drink 8-12 beers 4-5 days a week, sometimes if I wanted more I would make a deal with myself that I had to walk to the store (1 mile uphill so it was hard lol) which was extra cardio).

My whole diet was mainly beer, ground beef, turkey, salad, chicken, mashed potatoes, Greek yogurt etc. Lifting 4-5 days a week and LISS 5-6 days a week. It took me like 12 months to lose the 65 pounds but I had like 1 or 2 days a week where I'd say screw it and binge to keep my sanity. Still went from 225 @ 25% to 160 @ 9-10%. Never trained abs though, only relied on squats/deadlift and weighted chins. Next time I bulk I'll do direct ab work.

Start:


End:


Said fuk that and slowly bulked back up to 175 @ 12-13% and felt better.








After that I got lazy and stopped lifting for 9 months, got back up to 205 @ 20-22% and literally saw this thread. It gave me motivation to get back in shape (srs). Now I'm down to 191 pounds and trying to get back to 170. I don't drink anymore so it's been a bit easier. Haven't done cardio yet and been going to the gym 3 times a week. Will start walking again and maybe lift 4-5 days a week once March hits depending on where I stand.

You're doing the Lords work OP. Motivating at least one miscer (and likely more) because you're one of 2018s GOAT posters. Free Ratfish 2019 if he gets banned. Das it mane.
You did awesome work bro.
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Iโ€™ve had an accidental cut from getting a cold and lost ten pounds from not eating
Was pretty good about eating protein if I did eat though
I look better lol face looks thinner. Would love to lose another 15
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If Ratfish goes, I'm going with him.

I have abs tho
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fukk, i knew my mistake on this cut was not drinking beers lmao

gonna go walk for an hour or two. i'll post an update pic after brb
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
fukk, i knew my mistake on this cut was not drinking beers lmao

gonna go walk for an hour or two. i'll post an update pic after brb
Are you lifting volume fasted? I'm doing it today and I'm lightheaded AF.

Is this normal?
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These cuts sound all type of wrong
But Iโ€™m fat so I dunno
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Are you lifting volume faster? I'm doing it today and I'm lightheaded AF.

Is this normal?
happens to me when I try to lift on low cals/low carbs especially when I'm 16+ hours into a fast. Need to eat some carbs beforehand to avoid it.
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
If Ratfish goes, I'm going with him.

I have abs tho
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OP did you get your body fat checked at the beginning with calipers or anything?
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Nope. I wont let you.
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