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post 1571591111 01-19-2019, 04:04 PM
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(Some of) It sound good tho ?

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post 1571591151 01-19-2019, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Education.
Lack of?
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post 1571591521 01-19-2019, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
Lack of?
Pretty much. Every issue revolving around low socio economic communities comes back down to lack of education. In first world countries at least.
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post 1571593041 01-19-2019, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
I love hip-hop BTW. I think there are positive and negative aspects to it, but that's with any art.

The fact is that gangsta rap was brought to the forefront of the music industry in the early 90s. You all forget how uplifting and thoughtful songs from The Fugees, De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, Nas, etc. were and go straight to gangsta rap as a reflection of all hip-hop. It is intellectually dishonest TBH.
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post 1571593251 01-19-2019, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Pretty much. Every issue revolving around low socio economic communities comes back down to lack of education. In first world countries at least.
It’s certainly an exacerbating reason but not the only one. If it were, all the variation in crime and poverty would be explained by the local education system. That simply isn’t the case.
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post 1571593561 01-19-2019, 04:32 PM
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It wouldn’t change anything . However , if the people that listened to it weren’t here, well then different story
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post 1571593881 01-19-2019, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
It’s certainly an exacerbating reason but not the only one. If it were, all the variation in crime and poverty would be explained by the local education system. That simply isn’t the case.
All poverty in first world countries right out of the gate isn't explained by lack of education?

How so?

And crime itself can be boiled down to desperation. If we're talking about the kinds of crime rappers have been known to rap about. The way i see it is if you have a good standard of education (which public schools in poor areas don't) youre not engaged, youre not learning and thus enter into a never ending cycle of poverty, failure & crime.
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post 1571594361 01-19-2019, 04:42 PM
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90s hip-hop is the some of the greatest **** i've ever heard man, however... i see how it could negatively affect some communities if they take the lyrics to heart.



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post 1571594831 01-19-2019, 04:48 PM
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Idk most really mainstream music in every genre is pretty degenerate.
post 1571594881 01-19-2019, 04:49 PM
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I shudder at the thought of a life where the only music options are rock, country, pop, classical and all of the electronic/house deritives. Would legit end it all.
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post 1571594921 01-19-2019, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted By bobthebuilder7⏩
I honestly think rap music causes behavioral issues within the urban communities
This is as dumb as when people say games like call of duty are the cause of mass shootings. The correlation between rap and crime is due to the fact that there is a lot of rap songs about guns drugs, and so more criminals can relate.

Rap does not cause crime or gun violence. There's also lots of different styles of rap, and not all are bad.
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post 1571594961 01-19-2019, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted By AK5426⏩
Idk most really mainstream music in every genre is pretty degenerate.
agreed
post 1571595081 01-19-2019, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted By ThaJerzeyDevil⏩
is rap music code for black people?
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post 1571595221 01-19-2019, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
I shudder at the thought of a life where the only music options are rock, country, pop, classical and all of the electronic/house deritives. Would legit end it all.
Imagine if all the music was just one group of people talking about mayonnaise sandwiches, unseasoned chicken, flat booty women, and pick-up trucks bruh...
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post 1571595371 01-19-2019, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Culture.
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Originally Posted By gotigoingon⏩
rap music is actually inspiring (srs), people like jay z have motivated me out of bad times. most rap today is garbage but it wouldn't be better off without hip hop culture
I think he is refering to just gangsta rap
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post 1571595591 01-19-2019, 04:58 PM
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Of course it would be better, rap music is, on the whole, lowlife degenerate garbage music.

And please don't even try to make this argument against rap if you're a fan of heavy metal music. Heavy metal is total incel, autist music and you have to be at best a socially inept nerd or at worst a psycopath to actually enjoy that shyt.
post 1571595651 01-19-2019, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123⏩
agreed
I think it's also hard to say because you would have to look at the statistics on crimes being committed before gangsta rap became popular and after it did. It's like the chicken and the egg argument.
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it would be so much better with just classical music

get rid of rap, rock, pop, grunge, etc

except ABBA
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how else would get gifs like this

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It encourages degenerate behavior so I agree to some extent. It's mostly because people can't handle it though and are easily influenced. It's hard to blame something as simple as music itself. You could very well make a similar argument that television has been just as destructive to the Western World encouraging similar behaviors.

Even without either of these people are so naive I'm sure there would have been something else that influenced terrible behaviors all the same. So honestly just don't be a f*cking retard yourself and stop worrying about everyone else. Everyone else is stupid as f*ck for the most part and will always disappoint with their behavior at the end of the day.
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post 1571597421 01-19-2019, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted By cashinout⏩
it would be so much better with just classical music

get rid of rap, rock, pop, grunge, etc

except ABBA
Get rid of everything except ABBA and watch society operate @ 100%

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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123⏩
Get rid of everything except ABBA and watch society operate @ 100%

Lol , I have an ABBA CD in my alarm clock. Wake up to SOS each morning
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Originally Posted By MajorTendonitis⏩
Lol , I have an ABBA CD in my alarm clock. Wake up to SOS each morning
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The world would be 1000% better without rap music srs. But it is only the product of a bigger issue. The glorification of being a piece of chit in urban communities. And liberals just make excuses for them

Everyone here should read thomas sowells book black rednecks and white liberal
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah⏩
The world would be 1000% better without rap music srs. But it is only the product of a bigger issue. The glorification of being a piece of chit in urban communities. And liberals just make excuses for them

Everyone here should read thomas sowells book black rednecks and white liberal
I have it in my Audibles. I got sidetracked into reading another book but definitely on my list.
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
90s hip-hop is the some of the greatest **** i've ever heard man, however... i see how it could negatively affect some communities if they take the lyrics to heart.
The majority of people can listen to rap and just enjoy the beat with catchy lyrics or whatever. The 'problem' is kids from the streets that literally have nothing. They grow up listening to rap with lyrics that glorify selling drugs, pimping b!tches, getting money. Etc. Music that talks about violence/killing people over street beefs/disrespect, Etc. And they completely take it to heart. They grow up with nothing and no positive role model. They hear guys that claim they came from nothing from the streets rap about how they 'made it'. Etc. Eventually the role model is the guy that has fame/fortune/respect/women. And they are willing to do anything to follow in that path.




I don't necessarily think rap is the entire problem. Allowing kids to be immersed in violence (video games, music, movies, TV shows, etc.) definitely desensitizes and hardens them. And if they don't have someone teaching them morals/ethics/ how to act in civilized society. They don't really stand a chance.
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
I love hip-hop BTW. I think there are positive and negative aspects to it, but that's with any art.

The fact is that gangsta rap was brought to the forefront of the music industry in the early 90s. You all forget how uplifting and thoughtful songs from The Fugees, De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, Nas, etc. were and go straight to gangsta rap as a reflection of all hip-hop. It is intellectually dishonest TBH.
Gangsta rap is the significant majority of rap music, it's been that way since the mid 90s.

Rap as a genre hasn't changed it's obsession with violent criminality, since the mid 90s. Things arguably have gotten worse.

IMO even gansta rappers in the mid 90s made sure their lyricism was on point (eg. Biggie, Big Pun, etc). Nowadays... IMO 13 year olds could write on the the same level.
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How has no one mentioned that violent crime as a whole in the US has been going down? Of course you will believe the world is degenerate if you look for evidence to support your cognitive bias.
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