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Originally Posted By kimm4
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That’s an interesting variation of the most muscular pose and one of Arnold’s most iconic poses.
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Usually never over 35s, and never below 12 reps
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Originally Posted By MichaelDuong
i don't go above 20-25s

tend to stick with 15s

whats fun is doing 50 straight reps with 15s and doing reverse dropsets by going up in weight, lowering reps. total delt destruction
I love it, I'm never afraid of high reps, 50 reps, 100 reps, it's great, just like 5 or 6 reps are great too. Some people ''fear'' high reps, the highest they can go is like 12 reps, it's almost like they think high reps are a total waste of energy, SMDH
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Originally Posted By superman704

Another case of ''huge delts, small chest'' syndrome
Lee Priest’s chest was much weaker than his deltoids and that is why he picked that variation of the most muscular. He is a bit narrow.
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Originally Posted By MichaelDuong
i don't go above 20-25s

tend to stick with 15s

whats fun is doing 50 straight reps with 15s and doing reverse dropsets by going up in weight, lowering reps. total delt destruction
I like to do 15s for super high reps sometimes. Really pumps the shoulders nicely.
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Originally Posted By blackflgst
Usually never over 35s, and never below 12 reps
This is not too bad
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Yep I got lucky with a good trainer from the very start who had me work all body parts equally. So I was training all three shoulder heads from my very first week of lifting.

And all my muscle is proportionate with no lagging areas. Nothing I want to grow bigger, just want to maintain this size.

I’m not big or lean so when I’m at rest you don’t see much, but when I’m flexed and with a pump during workouts I have clear definition in all three shoulder heads. For example during bent over barbell row I always look at my shoulders and see all three heads.
This is good, but you should develop your physique to the point there is muscle definition at all times, not just when you are training (for example, I can flex my arm rn and I see crazy definition everywhere, forearms, biceps, triceps, delts, everywhere)
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower
Lee Priest’s chest was much weaker than his deltoids and that is why he picked that variation of the most muscular. He is a bit narrow.
I was always like Lee Priest, huge arms and delts, no chest at all. Thank God I overcame the issue, it was not easy to fix though
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower
That’s an interesting variation of the most muscular pose and one of Arnold’s most iconic poses.
Arnold (and Franco) is a great inspiration in my life
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Yeah when I flex I have some definition but I’m not lean enough to show more. And I like my bf where it’s at now. Don’t want to be leaner.
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Originally Posted By superman704
I was always like Lee Priest, huge arms and delts, no chest at all. Thank God I overcame the issue, it was not easy to fix though
He’s probably my favorite bodybuilder along with Ed Corney. Old timers like Reg Park, Steve Reeves, and Larry Scott also.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower
I like to do 15s for super high reps sometimes. Really pumps the shoulders nicely.
This is good, i'm never afraid of super high reps
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Originally Posted By superman704
Arnold (and Franco) is a great inspiration in my life
I like them but when I watched Pumping Iron with my Father when I was a kid I remember the person in the film who stuck with me most was Ed Corney. In my eyes he had the best physique and to this day I hold that opinion. I wouldn’t ever want to look like a pro bodybuilder though, even the ones from the golden era. I like more natural looking physiques.
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Originally Posted By kimm4
A chest will always look smaller in that pose. Kinda like when a dik hits cold water...

Same thing.
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Originally Posted By QuadraQuint
I'll admire someone if they can do 45+ lbs though. Problem is my form ain't worth compromising at that weight.

For reference too, I can DB seated shoulder press 95 lbs for about 5 good reps. 100 lbs is still a kunt hair away.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower
I like them but when I watched Pumping Iron with my Father when I was a kid I remember the person in the film who stuck with me most was Ed Corney. In my eyes he had the best physique and to this day I hold that opinion. I wouldn’t ever want to look like a pro bodybuilder though, even the ones from the golden era. I like more natural looking physiques.
Ed (R.I.P.) had a great physique but what impressed me the most about him is his posing, omg, I still practice everyday but I'm not there yet
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower
He’s probably my favorite bodybuilder along with Ed Corney. Old timers like Reg Park, Steve Reeves, and Larry Scott also.
What impresses me about Reg park is that he was actually natty, few people know that. Much respect
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Originally Posted By superman704
Ed (R.I.P.) had a great physique but what impressed me the most about him is his posing, omg, I still practice everyday but I'm not there yet
That what put him above Franco for me in the short class. Franco had more mass proportionally but Ed was more symmetrical, and he was such a great poser, while Franco was a mediocre poser.
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Nasser El Sonbaty (R.I.P.) had great delts, and a pretty good chest too, imo
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower
That what put him above Franco for me in the short class. Franco had more mass proportionally but Ed was more symmetrical, and he was such a great poser, while Franco was a mediocre poser.
Idk about Franco being a ''mediocre'' poser. As an Italian American I admire Franco a lot as well as many other Italian bodybuilders (Ferrigno, Centopani, etc)
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Originally Posted By superman704
Idk about Franco being a ''mediocre'' poser. As an Italian American I admire Franco a lot as well as many other Italian bodybuilders (Ferrigno, Centopani, etc)
I’m Italian-American also, but I’m not biased towards Italian bodybuilders. I am a fan of Franco and Lou though.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower
I’m Italian-American also, but I’m not biased towards Italian bodybuilders. I am a fan of Franco and Lou though.
Lou kinda had a ''love/hate'' relationship with his Dad. Lou is one of my heroes too, he inspired me a lot
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Lou Ferrigno, great chest/shoulders mass ratio
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Originally Posted By wincel
For lateral delts...yes...that's like 95th percentile in strength. Your average soyboy can't even do 20s for a clean set of 8.
40 lb+ DB's for lateral raises puts you in the 99th percentile among the general population that includes any and all soycels. 95th percentile would apply to commercial gyms. Lol @ that guy claiming he once did 60's for 6 reps but stopped because he "got too big" from them. Might as well claim you bench over 500 for a clean rep raw as a lifetime natty @ sub-200lbs without providing any evidence for it.
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i wasn't expecting so many replies I'm going to be repping people for weeks wtf
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20 pounds for 6 sets of 12-15 elbows slightly bent


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This is yet another one of those exercises that I see people 'ego lifting' in - standing and bouncing a bit with their knees to make the raise easier; bending their arms significantly to reduce the actual weight on the muscle (physics...). Here's how I do them:



And I aim for 4 sets of 8 as a minimum on an upper body day where I have typically already done both barbell bench and supersets of lat pulldowns and seated db cleans.

EDIT: I use 8kg dumbbells now. This is also an exercise where increases in weight take a good amount of time.
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this is a big shoulder thread only, why the fuk are a bunch of no avis putting their input in? I need to trust the info I’m reading is legit
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