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post 1576544081 03-24-2019, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted By wasp9166
at 53, my joints kill me , i care about being in shape, not gains , and that is mostly diet related

def no longer heavy weights , as with diet change, you will have to change the way you lift
Not nearly as old, but this is spot on. Diet has to become a lot more strict and lifts have to focus more on form than weight. Accessory work becomes much more important too (rotator cuff/lower back/etc.).
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post 1576544641 03-24-2019, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted By wasp9166
you're 32 and you don't buy it ?


k, come back at 52

everything changes at 45 kid, EVERYTHING
No it doesn‘t.
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post 1576545011 03-24-2019, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By SippyCups
By 31 your joints are basically dust, heart slowing, teeth wearing away, and muscular atrophy is outpacing any gains you could possibly make. Soon your adult children will be wiping your ass for you. Death is knocking at your door, fella.
would be funny if not true....

30 yr old checking in and have seen my age 18-28 gains just fall off to where I'm back toDYELstatus

To be brutally honest, I haven't changed my diet or routine much even though I'm lifting heavier and heavier weights. Still the mass is falling away.

EDIT: also

-hairline is now a sharp M on forehead
-skin has texture of moon's surface along with wrinkles kicking in
-teeth slightly more yellow
-no more baby teddy bear nose, now looks like tucan beak
-lastly, I SWEAR TO GOD I've lost 2 inches of height since 18.
post 1576545031 03-24-2019, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Comply_or_Die
that's why i specifically said bodybuilding. learn to read honey.
There‘s no difference. Most bodybuilders choose to be obsessive, it‘s not a requirement.
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post 1576545781 03-24-2019, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted By wave_length
No it doesn‘t.
there's always an outlier that has to come in and skew everyone's perception

post 1576546181 03-24-2019, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Dirtylocks
there's always an outlier that has to come in and skew everyone's perception
I‘m not the only 40+ in this thread and far from the only 40+ on this forum who is in shape. Of course there are individual and genetic differences but to say at 45 it‘s over is just not true.
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post 1576546811 03-24-2019, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By wave_length
I‘m not the only 40+ in this thread and far from the only 40+ on this forum who is in shape. Of course there are individual and genetic differences but to say at 45 it‘s over is just not true.
I think what they're saying is that it's harder to recover and you have to lift smart to avoid injuries as you get older. Not that it's all over even if you continue lifting and eating well. I can attest that in the past 4 or so years it's getting harder. I'm a lifetime natty who's had injuries, so that doesn't help. I'm also a lot more tired now then I was even 4-5 years ago. I'm not going to stop lifting, but I def feel it a lot more now.
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post 1576546901 03-24-2019, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted By wave_length
I‘m not the only 40+ in this thread and far from the only 40+ on this forum who is in shape. Of course there are individual and genetic differences but to say at 45 it‘s over is just not true.
For 99.9% of the general population after age 45 they are not going to look like your avi or anything close to it even with proper diet and training.

no e-flattery

Hell I'd say 99% of all men under the age of 35 don't have a physique like that. Maybe 1 in 100, that's it.
post 1576547121 03-24-2019, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted By tightteeshirt
Age 21-27 I had a solid physique going on. Thick back and arms. good delts. It's just slowly eroded over these last three or four years and now I look in the mirror an its pretty depressing.
31? That's pretty depressing lol.
post 1576547191 03-24-2019, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted By wave_length
There‘s no difference. Most bodybuilders choose to be obsessive, it‘s not a requirement.
there's no different between bodybuilding and going just to keep active? lololol ok jeff
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post 1576547271 03-24-2019, 03:20 PM
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post 1576547871 03-24-2019, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Idk about this. I’m in my forties and look and feel great. Only started lifting 5 years ago and built and maintain muscle without any issue. Don’t have any joint issues yet. No current injuries or tendinitis or anything.

However I do feel strongly that the older you get, the more you should focus on lower weight and higher reps to protect your joints and tendons. If you’re going all out powerlifting and trying to max out at 40+, then yeah eventually that will destroy your joints.

But to just have a good body for aesthetic and health reasons, you’re fine with lighter weight for full sets and your body can look and feel great in your forties.
You are a female, and admittedly only started lifting 5 years ago. Let us know when you have been participating in sports and benching 225+ pounds for reps for over 10 years.
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post 1576547991 03-24-2019, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry
You are a female, and admittedly only started lifting 5 years ago. Let us know when you have been participating in sports and benching 225+ pounds for reps for over 10 years.
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post 1576548341 03-24-2019, 03:38 PM
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post 1576548761 03-24-2019, 03:44 PM
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Yep, hit 45 plus, all muscle turns to fat and your pee pee stops working.

Enjoy the last half of your life as a soft, fat, sexless jackoff boyos.
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post 1576548901 03-24-2019, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
No lol. Did you stop working out? If you work out regularly and eat reasonably you can keep a good body until well past middle age.

I only started lifting around my forties and have been able to build and maintain muscle just fine.
This.. reminds me of a Jocko video where he talks about how to push through itwhen youre not in the mood. Op i really do feel we all have a “winner” voice and a “loser” voice inour head. All thosedays you skip gym youre not listening to your winner voice.
post 1576548961 03-24-2019, 03:48 PM
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Just get on TRT

Test levels declining is known to have a number of unhealthy effects too so pick your poison. As long as you aren’t abusing it and staying in normal range TRT you’re fine. It’s probably healthier than deteriorating slowly.
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post 1576549461 03-24-2019, 03:57 PM
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God damn cope patrol roll call ITT.
The only thing it takes is proper nutrition and training. Period.
Environmental factors and injuries come and go. Adjust your nutrition and training efficiently enough and stay consistent. This never fails no matter what percentages you try to quote.
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post 1576550251 03-24-2019, 04:13 PM
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The only thing i noticed i lost comparing to 10 years ago is my reflexes and explosiveness.

I can still run, still jump (can still touch a 10 foot basketball rim @ 5'10). I use to hoop all the phucking time back in the day and i was agile, jumping around, never getting tired. I haven't played ball yet this year but last year i was playing and the sudden moves from offense to defense i wasn't as fast or explosive as much. There's like a short delay. Now i know what real NBA players go through lol. Father time is undefeated.

But other than that, i still have my health, and i eat complete garbage. I still never get sick. Joints still fine. Still have all my hair. Skin looks great (i get carded for lottery tickets).

Only thing that really sucks is that i can't gain weight for chit. And i found old pictures of me from 8-10 years ago when i used to work out everyday, i looked bigger then. No wonder everyone has asked me if i lost weight. Which i did. But that's because i like to run a lot.

Idk anymore. I'm 37 btw.
post 1576550941 03-24-2019, 04:23 PM
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30 would be in the best shape of my life if I stopped drinking alcohol and partying. Hold me misc.
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post 1576558531 03-24-2019, 06:19 PM
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Some strong negativity in this thread. Entered the 30+ club recently. Yes, we all grow old. Yes, one day we'll meet with the grim reaper. How many fuarkin times does it need to be said? I probably won't even make it to old age cause I'm more interested in enjoying what I do have.

Had my cavities filled when I was 14, the filling was mostly gone by early 20s. Last year, a part of my tooth broke off, now every time I get some food stuck in there my gums hurt. Have to go to dentist soon, but I'll still eat sweets, because fuk it.

Have strange palpitations at times and have had lower back pain since early 20s. Have chronic sinus issues since that time. Have difficulty breathing through my nose often, especially during cold weather. Always have a runny nose during winter. Can rarely taste food properly.

Have had hemorrhoids every now and then since 16. Don't give a chit, will still keep doing what I do. Pain and suffering is a small part of life, if I let it get to me then might as well LDAR for real.

If it ever comes down to it, I told my family that I'd rather they take me off life support than to live in a coma or a vegetative state.

I only lift and exercise for health reasons. Not to look aesthetic or to pull sloots.
post 1576558791 03-24-2019, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted By guest89
32 and in the best shape of my life. Been in the gym consistently since 20. I absolutely don't buy the you fall apart as you age and your metabolism withers away nonsense. Ask yourself three questions:

1. Do you burn as many calories per day as when you were young? (Same activity level).
2. Do you work out as hard/consistently as when you were young?
3. Are you consuming more daily calories then when you were young?



With most of my peers I've observed their daily activity level dropped (burning less over-all calories). Their stress levels increased (Wife/kids/day to day stuff). And their caloric intake increased. Obviously with all of that comes increased bodyfat, increased tiredness/sluggishness, and decreased testosterone. I know quite a few older guys (40s-50s) that are still in great shape. 12-15% body fat. Still carrying plenty muscle mass and healthy. Its all bout consistent nutrition and consistent training.
You have much to learn. Just wait until you hit late 30s/early 40s. Natural consequences of aging prevent you from going as hard as you did earlier in life, which causes you to lose some lean mass, and both of those things have an impact on how much you can consume per day. It's just part of life and remaining natty. You can't get around it.
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post 1576559331 03-24-2019, 06:32 PM
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My body is wrecked from years of basketball, running and lifting. Also i got in a wreck but still my joints are fuked.
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Originally Posted By tightteeshirt
Age 21-27 I had a solid physique going on. Thick back and arms. good delts. It's just slowly eroded over these last three or four years and now I look in the mirror an its pretty depressing.
I'll just leave this here;


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post 1576562271 03-24-2019, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Legz422
I think what they're saying is that it's harder to recover and you have to lift smart to avoid injuries as you get older. Not that it's all over even if you continue lifting and eating well. I can attest that in the past 4 or so years it's getting harder. I'm a lifetime natty who's had injuries, so that doesn't help. I'm also a lot more tired now then I was even 4-5 years ago. I'm not going to stop lifting, but I def feel it a lot more now.
That‘s not what I was responding to, it was a condescending „at 45 it‘s over, son“.
Originally Posted By Dirtylocks
For 99.9% of the general population after age 45 they are not going to look like your avi or anything close to it even with proper diet and training.

no e-flattery

Hell I'd say 99% of all men under the age of 35 don't have a physique like that. Maybe 1 in 100, that's it.
I doubt those numbers if all essentials for optimal body composition are kept (which might not be the case for many people) but that was not the point. It was that you have no chance at getting to where you can get when you were younger.
Originally Posted By Comply_or_Die
there's no different between bodybuilding and going just to keep active? lololol ok jeff
What I meant was that you don‘t have to invest more than a few hours per week for optimal body composition (= the goal of bodybuilding), just as for what is considered „keeping active“. I don‘t do any meal prep, I eat whatever I want (or my wife cooks), whenever it is convenient. The only „meal prep“ I do is a 100g whey shake every day to ensure sufficient protein intake. I don’t do any calorie counting, macro timing, chicken breast cooking, tupperware nonsense. And I don’t do any cardio. The time consuming bodybuilding „lifestyle“ is completely unnecessary, maybe aside from actual contest prep.
Originally Posted By Mook1e
God damn cope patrol roll call ITT.
The only thing it takes is proper nutrition and training. Period.
Environmental factors and injuries come and go. Adjust your nutrition and training efficiently enough and stay consistent. This never fails no matter what percentages you try to quote.
Originally Posted By deltpecx
I'll just leave this here;

These two alone are examples enough to doubt the stated 0.1%.
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post 1576563791 03-24-2019, 07:41 PM
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In my 30s and I feel great. When I was in my teens and 20s I had such a hard time trying to gain weight. Now it's a lot easier.

I am bigger, stronger and way better looking in my 30s.

The one thing I've never understood is how people can lose so much muscle. Do you guys just not work out for years?
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lmao @ the female miscers itt

brb squatting 50lb and doing 10lb shoulder presses 3x a week and using it as a springboard to offer advice to actual lifters

get the fk out of here
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Originally Posted By envisu
lmao @ the female miscers itt

brb squatting 50lb and doing 10lb shoulder presses 3x a week and using it as a springboard to offer advice to actual lifters

get the fk out of here
lol there's females on this forum??

I thought they were all dudes pretending to be females for positive attention.
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100% true OP. Its depressing srs.

My gains have been going downhill since 28-29 years old. I think it had alot to do with competitions I did and maintaining extremely low BF, but never recovered.

In my late 20s, I was 165-170lbs @ 5'9 squatting 405 for 3-4 reps. my flat bench was 265x4 on my last set (did 5 sets) Now Im doing around 335x3 squat on my last set and 235x3-4 bench.

I remember 315x10 used to be almost a warmup for squat, 10th rep was fairly easy. Now I can barely get 7 or 8 fresh with 100% effort.

(never stopped lifting, diet is 100% on point, etc)
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I haven't made any gains since 2012. I was 198 lbs with visible abs at that time but no matter how long i lift i can't get bigger. Right now i'm like 193 but look softer for some reason.
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