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Thread: HBO's Game of Thrones - Open Discussion - Final Season VIII

post 1579554221 05-06-2019, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Tanerian⏩
Walder Frey ignored that ruled and no one fuking cared cept the slain and their friends.
Pretty sure blowing up the Sept, high priest, the Lord of HighGarden, his son, and his daughter the Queen, are all against the "Feudal" rules too. But no, slaying the queen of an army of raping savages, Eunichs, and hillbillys (Pretty much how the north is viewed by people in the south), during a parlay is going to make the people turn on Cersei.
And he and his entire House was wiped from existence, nobody cared to help or avenge him. That was an assassination anyway, nobody was requesting a parley.

As far as the Sept goes, again, plausible deniability. As far as Joe Blow on the street of Kings Landing goes, it was a terrible accident or perpetrated by saboteurs. As far a the other Lords of the Seven Kingdoms goes, there isn't enough proof that it was Cersei for them to be bound to acting.

When its a Queen standing at your gate for a parley and you shoot her down without provocation, the world will turn on you in an instant and you won't be afforded any mercy. If you don't follow the most unbreakable rules the world has to offer then nobody can work with you, not only can they not work with you but they'll join any side opposing you and withdraw all support.
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post 1579554741 05-06-2019, 03:50 PM
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1. WTF is the timeline in this show now, that Cersei can fraud the baby being Euron's. Jaime hasn't been there in months.



2. My prediction for the ending: Tyrion is the 3rd "head of the dragon". That prediction is not new, but my further prediction has also been in front of us the whole time: "Dragonstone".

The dragon that is in the Dragonstone war room (in plenty of scenes, look it up), is a real dragon encased in stone. Something will awaken it. If the eggs can awaken from stone, why not the grown dragons? Or maybe there is a single dragon or many dragons somehow frozen in stone elsewhere at fukkin DRAGONSTONE.

I think they awaken next episode. The one single plot point they absolutely HAVE to tie up is the phrase from Rhaegar "The dragon has three heads". This season has been way too much catering to TV show fans/Buzzfeed, and not much completed storyline that's still very much there from the books.






edit: idk if this is a real theory, I got it purely from reading the wiki

also, P.S: I think they have been clearly telegraphing that Dany is insane, the mad queen. I think she's gonna die and Tyrion will end up on the Iron Throne with Varys as his hand. The conversations between those two were the closest thing we got to actual plot in episode 4. That's my major underdog prediction.
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post 1579554831 05-06-2019, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted By jackflag⏩
Why is Sansa so determined to be a kunt to Dany? What has she done to her? Its not like she heard tales of Dany burning whole cities down to the ground either. She doesnt know about her executing the Tarlys either. All she's done is try to be nice to her, and save her entire goddamn family and castle from getting REKT by the night king.

Dude **** Sansa. She's been a huge bitch literally since day 1 of the show and that hasnt changed in the slightest.
I think...

Sansa doesn't trust her, because she doesn't know her. Northeners in general don't trust non-northerners.

Sansa has a hard time trusting people, because of all she endured with; Joffrey, Littlefinger, Ramsay, and Lysa. Up until she became lady of Winterfell she's been manipulated and abused since she was 13.

Also... Dany has been showing clear signs of megalomania.

When people give Jon a hard time about his leadership, he takes in on the chin, and reaffirms his position and states what his orders are (eg. the Nightswatch, and when people question his decision to bend the knee to Dany). Dany's ego gets inflamed whenever she's challenged (eg. the way she looked at Tyrion, when he stated that it's best not to kill innocent people).
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post 1579555071 05-06-2019, 03:56 PM
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This season could have easily been 10 episodes.

Dumb and dumber have decided to move on and were in a rush to wrap this up. Maybe GRRM wasn't giving them more Information about the heading but this is trash.

Can't believe they made up wait 2 years for this.







Still watching every episode though!
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I'm surprised that Ep 4 is getting so much hate, I thought it was the best of the season.

I enjoyed watching the conflicted loyalties of various characters, and I enjoyed watching Dany's 'Mad King' tendencies becoming more apparent.

I can't wait for her to say something like "Burn them all!".

They've been sowing a growing sense of entitlement in Dany since the first season. "I am the rightful queen." "It is my destiny to take back the stolen throne!", etc.

I thought Lena Headley's acting was superb as always, conveying so much in her facial expressions. "If you have any last words..." I love Cersei.
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post 1579555471 05-06-2019, 04:04 PM
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Sansa crew, stop hating on her lmao. Why would she want Dragonbish to rule the North when it should be her family. I hope Sansa kills Dany and then sleeps with me and I get to be king of the North.
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I was never a Dany fan, but man they fukked her hard this season. I'd go fukking ballistic in this situation too. Here's to KL turning into a steaming bloody mess Sunday.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I was never a Dany fan, but man they fukked her hard this season.
How so?
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post 1579555601 05-06-2019, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I was never a Dany fan, but man they fukked her hard this season. I'd go fukking ballistic in this situation too. Here's to KL turning into to s teaming bloody mess Sunday.
All of this

She has tried to play nicely and has gotten fukkin rekt

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post 1579555631 05-06-2019, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted By ironicinori⏩
1. WTF is the timeline in this show now, that Cersei can fraud the baby being Euron's. Jaime hasn't been there in months.



2. My prediction for the ending: Tyrion is the 3rd "head of the dragon". That prediction is not new, but my further prediction has also been in front of us the whole time: "Dragonstone".

The dragon that is in the Dragonstone war room (in plenty of scenes, look it up), is a real dragon encased in stone. Something will awaken it. If the eggs can awaken from stone, why not the grown dragons? Or maybe there is a single dragon or many dragons somehow frozen in stone elsewhere at fukkin DRAGONSTONE.

I think they awaken next episode. The one single plot point they absolutely HAVE to tie up is the phrase from Rhaegar "The dragon has three heads". This season has been way too much catering to TV show fans/Buzzfeed, and not much completed storyline that's still very much there from the books.
You could be onto something with the Dragon.

Melisandre was telling Jon Snow:
when the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to waken dragons out of stone
Wasn't Rhaegal red? Or maybe it refers to the Lannisters and their colour red? Maybe when Cersei bleeds then the dragons will awaken? The red star could also refer to Aegon Targaryon, Jons death could bring about the rise of the stone dragons.

Interesting to think about.
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post 1579555701 05-06-2019, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩


i miss her brehs
Feels. Her vs Cersei were great scenes. Always wanted to see what her endgame would have been.
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post 1579555711 05-06-2019, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I'm surprised that Ep 4 is getting so much hate, I thought it was the best of the season.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
How so?
How?

1. Lost dragon saving King of the North
2. Lost vast majority of army defending Winterfell
3. Both of her best friends get killed
4. Lost another dragon because Euron has aimbot and wallhaxx
5. People still don't like her
6. Not a single thank you

I am now team Dany. I doubt she will win, but I will revel in all the death and destruction she manages Sunday. May Drogon feast on the corpses of the dead.
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post 1579555871 05-06-2019, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
Username to post content ratio is beyond our science.
I knew someone was going to reply to my post with that, lol.
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post 1579555971 05-06-2019, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted By WestAfrica⏩
Sansa crew, stop hating on her lmao. Why would she want Dragonbish to rule the North when it should be her family. I hope Sansa kills Dany and then sleeps with me and I get to be king of the North.
That made me lol. WestAfrica...KING OF THE NORTH! I dig it
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post 1579556001 05-06-2019, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I'm surprised that Ep 4 is getting so much hate, I thought it was the best of the season.
I enjoyed watching the conflicted loyalties of various characters, and I enjoyed watching Dany's 'Mad King' tendencies becoming more apparent.
I can't wait for her to say something like "Burn them all!".

They've been sowing a growing sense of entitlement in Dany since the first season. "I am the rightful queen." "It is my destiny to take back the stolen throne!", etc.

I thought Lena Headley's acting was superb as always, conveying so much in her facial expressions. "If you have any last words..." I love Cersei.
There's just too many inconsistencies in the narrative to the point that the story is beyond repair. It's a shame this is how the show has ended but be ready for more complaining after the last to episodes and the annoying thing is the complaints are all valid.



She's probably lost more than everyone on this show and in the space of a day lost another dragon and her best friend. That's after losing half her army to help Jon. Feel like she's fully justified to fuk chit up rather than listen to her inept advisers

The below essentially
Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
How?

1. Lost dragon saving King of the North
2. Lost vast majority of army defending Winterfell
3. Both of her best friends get killed
4. Lost another dragon because Euron has aimbot and wallhaxx
5. People still don't like her
6. Not a single thank you

I am now team Dany. I doubt she will win, but I will revel in all
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my guesses:

jamie kills cersei
tyrion backstabs danny somehow
tons of people die. Jon probably wont be king either since theyre hinting at it so much.

i think sansa ends up queen. and they find out shes slowly becoming cersei


then her character fades into a book and its Sam as an old man story telling the whole battle. end of show
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
How?

1. Lost dragon saving King of the North
2. Lost vast majority of army defending Winterfell
3. Both of her best friends get killed
4. Lost another dragon because Euron has aimbot and wallhaxx
5. People still don't like her
6. Not a single thank you

I am now team Dany. I doubt she will win, but I will revel in all the death and destruction she manages Sunday. May Drogon feast on the corpses of the dead.
Ah I see what you are saying, I thought you were saying that she was written badly...

I love the way they've written Dany into a corner, Vary and/or Tyrion turning on her is going to be her final straw I'm guessing. I don't think she's going to listen to anyone now.
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post 1579556261 05-06-2019, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted By WestAfrica⏩
Sansa crew, stop hating on her lmao. Why would she want Dragonbish to rule the North when it should be her family. I hope Sansa kills Dany and then sleeps with me and I get to be king of the North.
I like Sansa. No hate here.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I was never a Dany fan, but man they fukked her hard this season. I'd go fukking ballistic in this situation too. Here's to KL turning into a steaming bloody mess Sunday.
I agree. Its actually completely understandable why she’d go Mad Queen at this point. She listens to Tyrion and loses most of her fleet. Then she goes north and loses a dragon and most of her army. Then, on the way back south, she loses another dragon, pretty much the rest of her fleet, and her best friend. The show is trying to make her look nuts because Targ bloodline, etc. and now, her advisors are scheming to get rid of her. Its kind of a fuked up way to write her ending but it is what it is at this point.
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Originally Posted By NasStan⏩
There's just too many inconsistencies in the narrative to the point that the story is beyond repair. It's a shame this is how the show has ended but be ready for more complaining after the last to episodes and the annoying thing is the complaints are all valid.

She's probably lost more than everyone on this show and in the space of a day lost another dragon and her best friend. That's after losing half her army to help Jon. Feel like she's fully justified to fuk chit up rather than listen to her inept advisers
I think that Jon, and Sansa have lost as much. Father, Mother, 2 Brothers... Sansa was raped, abused, manipulated throughout her life even by a family member (Lysa), and Jon was even murdered.... Jon, and Sansa still aren't genocidal.

I don't believe she's ethically justified but I can empathize with her character.

I don't believe a leader like Jon would respond with genocide, like Dany is probably going to try to.
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how did no one see this



some lazy ass writing. oh brb facing them. oh brb on dragon. no one sees anythign though
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
I agree. Its actually completely understandable why she’d go Mad Queen at this point. She listens to Tyrion and loses most of her fleet. Then she goes north and loses a dragon and most of her army. Then, on the way back south, she loses another dragon, pretty much the rest of her fleet, and her best friend. The show is trying to make her look nuts because Targ bloodline, etc. and now, her advisors are scheming to get rid of her. Its kind of a fuked up way to write her ending but it is what it is at this point.
IMO they've been slowing hinting at this, from Season 1. She's had a growing sense of entitlement (eg. her 52 titles before her name).

Tyrion was trying to reign in her temper back on that Slave city, when she ordered the crucifixion of all slave masters.

I think this is a great way to end her character arc, a consistent way.
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No one ever removed the wildfire from beneath the Kings Landing so Jamie prob kills Cersei before her and Qyburn can light it. Gonna be gay.
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I can't even comprehend how bad the writing has become. It is literally blowing my mind... these retards literally ruined an entire series that was making some sort of historical impact lmfao. State of the world!
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
IMO they've been slowing hinting at this, from Season 1. She's had a growing sense of entitlement (eg. her 52 titles before her name).

Tyrion was trying to reign in her temper back on that Slave city, when she ordered the crucifixion of all slave masters.

I think this is a great way to end her character arc, a consistent way.
thats not consistent. she had 8 seasons to go mad. slave owners had it coming
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
Lolwut? Nothing he’s done is anywhere close to being equal to what Gendry has done in the bigger picture. The biggest thing he did was shoot that arrow at the Blackwater but Dany has zero reason to care about that. Again Jaime has no pull with her and she and Tyrion aren’t in the best of spots right now. No way he convinces Dany to give him one of the most important castles in the 7 kingdoms.

If, and thats a big if, he has a major role in bringing down Cersei, he could get a big reward but I don’t see it happening. Cersei’s death will go to Jaime or Arya or one of the bigger characters.
I dunno... I think he'd be equally crazy for trusting anything that Cersei says.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
IMO they've been slowing hinting at this, from Season 1. She's had a growing sense of entitlement (eg. her 52 titles before her name).

Tyrion was trying to reign in her temper back on that Slave city, when she ordered the crucifixion of all slave masters.

I think this is a great way to end her character arc, a consistent way.
In regards to the writing, Im talking about stuff like last episode where the losses that finally push her over the edge are the result of bad writing. I don’t have an issue with her going Mad Queen though and I agree that its been hinted at for a long time.
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Originally Posted By ANIMALISTIKZ⏩
I can't even comprehend how bad the writing has become. It is literally blowing my mind... these retards literally ruined an entire series that was making some sort of historical impact lmfao. State of the world!
this season is just awful. like look at pic above. too many plot holes. if jamie kills cersei ill be super disappointed for how predictive they made it. if he actually turns evil again now thatd be good. imagine him beheading brianne
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