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post 1579574491 05-06-2019, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted By DanielleGreen
It's the context.. I work at a very open and extroverted company, and at social events nothing surprises me these days. However, I wouldn't be talking about group sex at a work event when VPs are present. That's not my thing. Also he's not very marriage material, if that makes sense. And I don't want to date work people, too much drama.
Usually guys who are bachelors/players/bad boys/Pookie and Ray Ray's/studs/etc are not marriage material. Alot of women have this fantasy of marrying Prince Charming who has characteristics of an alpha and a beta male but the reality is most women can't find a guy like that and if they do, they don't really want to stick to one woman.

Yeah talking about sex at work is bad and you could technically report his ass for sexual harassment but you ain't gonna do it because you're in love
post 1579574511 05-06-2019, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
Not in my experience.
"no hookups" almost always means sex on the first date.

Also, women I didn't meet online but I know?
The one's who preach about how they are such "good girls" and would never do such a thing usually end up being the one's who spend the night after a party.
in my bed.

then continue to preach how they aren't sloots in front of me and I just pretend we didn't bang multiple times and didn't talk for weeks after.
Lol actions speak louder than words...
post 1579574751 05-06-2019, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted By BlackScorpio91
Usually guys who are bachelors/players/bad boys/Pookie and Ray Ray's/studs/etc are not marriage material. Alot of women have this fantasy of marrying Prince Charming who has characteristics of an alpha and a beta male but the reality is most women can't find a guy like that and if they do, they don't really want to stick to one woman.

Yeah talking about sex at work is bad and you could technically report his ass for sexual harassment but you ain't gonna do it because you're in love
100%

Well I wasn't offended and we already have enough drama with "harassment" chit. I've heard wayyy worse than some old geezer talking about 2 girls at one time.
post 1579574801 05-06-2019, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted By BlackScorpio91
You're attracted to him and yet you got turned off because he was talking about sex?

That don't make no sense. You like sex right? So how can you be turned off by someone talking about sex? Only way would be if you were not attracted to him.
Makes sense to me. Talking about your sex life in a work environment seems pretty sleazy and unprofessional. Even not accounting for the environment, if she is attracted to him, why would she want to hear about him banging other chicks?
post 1579574831 05-06-2019, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Hypergamy is not absurd. It’s basic human nature to want an attractive mate. Basic biological nature beyond humans actually even in animals.
What's considered attractive has varied across cultures and time-periods however, and within the animal kingdom, and even in the early periods of human history, attraction is/was tied to mainly health markers and overall strength.

That said, I understand that you want someone you're attracted to, but your problem seems to be that you don't want to make any room for compromise, which is bizarre considering your situation. You have a physical type and age range, and you don't want to deviate from it at all. It's the equivalent of a man in his forties refusing to budge from his standard physical preference for twenty-something petite blondes, no matter how unrealistic. Have you thought about trying for men in their late thirties early forties? I seriously doubt they're all out of shape or unattractive.
post 1579575081 05-06-2019, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted By DanielleGreen
Lol actions speak louder than words...
these are mature women in their 40's.
They are sex ninja's.
orgasm's in the night and the neighbors don't even see them leave in the shadows of dawn.
post 1579575201 05-06-2019, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains
Makes sense to me. Talking about your sex life in a work environment seems pretty sleazy and unprofessional. Even not accounting for the environment, if she is attracted to him, why would she want to hear about him banging other chicks?
I mean yeah in terms of work, it is unprofessional but anywhere else? It's fair game.

Like at Hooter's, I made a "That's what she said" joke to one of the waitresses after she said "It's pretty big" and she just laughed.

And bragging about your sex life to everyone in general is dumb.
post 1579575261 05-06-2019, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Legz422
Well come on. They’re playing a sport. Of course that’s going to trend towards some in shape older guys. Just like older guys in the gym. But go do errands. Grocery store, Target, drug store. You’re going to see a lot of unattractive bodies.

As for a 50 year old purposely having a kid. I feel sorry for that kid. Dad prob won’t even be alive when he graduates high school.
I guess I dont know the guys I see in public age. The guys I do get to know tend to be active, as that's how I end up getting to know them. So I have a distorted sense of it maybe.

I dont think 40 yr old men are comparable to 25 yr olds obviously.
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post 1579575451 05-06-2019, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted By BlackScorpio91
I mean yeah in terms of work, it is unprofessional but anywhere else? It's fair game.

Like at Hooter's, I made a "That's what she said" joke to one of the waitresses after she said "It's pretty big" and she just laughed.

And bragging about your sex life to everyone in general is dumb.
Lol, did you tip her?
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Originally Posted By BlackScorpio91
I mean yeah in terms of work, it is unprofessional but anywhere else? It's fair game.

Like at Hooter's, I made a "That's what she said" joke to one of the waitresses after she said "It's pretty big" and she just laughed.

And bragging about your sex life to everyone in general is dumb.
That's a completely different thing though. Thought this guy was talking about the threesomes he had?
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post 1579576061 05-06-2019, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted By BlackScorpio91
I mean yeah in terms of work, it is unprofessional but anywhere else? It's fair game.

Like at Hooter's, I made a "That's what she said" joke to one of the waitresses after she said "It's pretty big" and she just laughed.

And bragging about your sex life to everyone in general is dumb.
Talking **** to a hooters girl is pretty standard behavior though.

I've literally threatened to rape and murder them and they will laugh it off.
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post 1579576511 05-06-2019, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
No my standards aren’t set by age. Just physical attraction in general. My only standards are:

1) physical attraction (subjective)

2) normal/nice personality (doesn’t have to be a saint but just no MAJOR issues like personality disorders or abusive or addictions etc)

In practice that ends up being younger guys. But if I met an older guy I was attracted to I would actually prefer that because then a srs relationship would be much more realistic.

And I have gone out with guys in their thirties and forties. Oldest was around 50 I think. Also my ex was older than me and is in his 50’s now. And I’m sure I’d still be attracted to him if we had stayed together. So theoretically it’s possible.
Let's be real here. You're attracted to extremely youthful looks and somewhat boyish appearances and attitudes. Outside of a couple exceptions, practically every guy you post who you're into has been 18-22. You're basically a female Pwally. Not saying that there's anything wrong with that, but it is what it is. You're into young Justin Bieber for fuk's sake, who looked very young even for his age. It doesn't mean that you can't be attracted to an older good looking guy, but it's definitely not your preference.
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Originally Posted By DanielleGreen
Lol, did you tip her?
Only a 20% tip, nothing more than that.
Originally Posted By MediocreGains
That's a completely different thing though. Thought this guy was talking about the threesomes he had?
Yeah he was.
post 1579577541 05-06-2019, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Talking **** to a hooters girl is pretty standard behavior though.

I've literally threatened to rape and murder them and they will laugh it off.
Yeah but not a lot of guys have the balls to say sexual chit to a waitress or any woman.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Yes I’m attracted to young guys. But I really think I could be attracted to a goodlooking older guy too.
Have you at least tried going after an older, fit guy?
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silencespeaks, the media has warped your mind to a point i have never seen before in my life. you will never get an nfl offensive lineman boyfriend. you need to come back down to earth. you are the female version of an incel. these nfl offensive linemen are like porn for you. also i saw in this thread earlier that you allow good looking men to treat you like utter **** just because they are good looking? is that srs? bruh. come on now. have some goddamn self respect. i don't care how good looking of a woman you are, you ain't treating me like ****.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
This is such bull****. Everyone likes attractive people. You’re just used to women virtue signaling that they value personality instead of looks bla bla.

And pretty much all 40+ year old men like 23 year old girls too. It’s the exact same thing. Just more socially accepted.
There is a big difference between someone like myself objectively identifying a 23 year old woman as attractive, versus only finding them attractive and setting my dating standards to that type of look. I agree with Lucifer's comment. To me, it would not speak well of a man's maturity if, in his mid forties, he could only find himself attracted to twenty somethings. I don't think I could date anyone under 35, and even that's pushing it.
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Man this thread is sometimes amusing but yikes. I'm pretty sure DanielleGreen lives in my city, and if she can't find a fit 40-something guy here that is 100% her fault. We're one of the healthiest states and the least obese in the entire country. It's the default expectation here that people here are active and fit. SilenceSpeaks is also very clearly insane, the entire time I've seen her on the misc she seems to post the same exact same scenarios and never learns from them once.

Women talking about how they are all nice and do small little things like Lucifer mentions are also delusional. I don't know why anyone here would listen to anything the women say, they function on such a fundamentally different wavelength than us. They'll never listen to our advice and their advice to us is useless, because they lack the introspection to realize what they actually like. Modern American women do not do cute little things for their boyfriends nowadays. Or the older married dudes who say their wives do it, congrats, but this isn't 2008. I've been on dates with at least a hundred women in the past 5 years and it is only when I backpacked in Asia that I noticed women actually do these nice, caring things for guys. I was in bed with a hangover and this random girl cooked me soup---I think the last thing a Western girl cooked for me was a freezerburnt grocery store pizza for both of us. Women here see dudes talking about these nice things and delude themselves by going "I do that too!' You don't. Lucifer isn't talking about doing the dishes after yourself, but the concept of doing these little shows of caring is such a foreign concept to you you can't even comprehend it. I've done simple chit with women I date like cook for them, give them scalp massages while laying on the couch together, etc. and they do nothing back. They're passive recipients of affection, and I eventually learned how useless it was to offer them things like that.

Stop making up qualities about the type of person you are and try to objectively analyze yourself for once. If you were the type of women you pretend to be you would not be single, that simple. But like I said earlier, this is useless advice to give and they won't listen. SilenceSpeaks is gonna keep it up well into her 60s I imagine. I don't believe for a second the way most women in this thread portray themselves---not because normal, caring women exist, it just seems very obvious they aren't them.
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Originally Posted By Autumnal
Man this thread is sometimes amusing but yikes. I'm pretty sure DanielleGreen lives in my city, and if she can't find a fit 40-something guy here that is 100% her fault. We're one of the healthiest states and the least obese in the entire country. It's the default expectation here that people here are active and fit. SilenceSpeaks is also very clearly insane, the entire time I've seen her on the misc she seems to post the same exact same scenarios and never learns from them once.

Women talking about how they are all nice and do small little things like Lucifer mentions are also delusional. I don't know why anyone here would listen to anything the women say, they function on such a fundamentally different wavelength than us. They'll never listen to our advice and their advice to us is useless, because they lack the introspection to realize what they actually like. Modern American women do not do cute little things for their boyfriends nowadays. Or the older married dudes who say their wives do it, congrats, but this isn't 2008. I've been on dates with at least a hundred women in the past 5 years and it is only when I backpacked in Asia that I noticed women actually do these nice, caring things for guys. I was in bed with a hangover and this random girl cooked me soup---I think the last thing a Western girl cooked for me was a freezerburnt grocery store pizza for both of us. Women here see dudes talking about these nice things and delude themselves by going "I do that too!' You don't. Lucifer isn't talking about doing the dishes after yourself, but the concept of doing these little shows of caring is such a foreign concept to you you can't even comprehend it. I've done simple chit with women I date like cook for them, give them scalp massages while laying on the couch together, etc. and they do nothing back. They're passive recipients of affection, and I eventually learned how useless it was to offer them things like that.

Stop making up qualities about the type of person you are and try to objectively analyze yourself for once. If you were the type of women you pretend to be you would not be single, that simple. But like I said earlier, this is useless advice to give and they won't listen. SilenceSpeaks is gonna keep it up well into her 60s I imagine. I don't believe for a second the way most women in this thread portray themselves---not because normal, caring women exist, it just seems very obvious they aren't them.
Have you not seen my post history?

Also being from the south, most girls are pretty "wifey" towards their SO's. Out in other places it's kinda hard to find that, so I see why Lucy is a bit taken back at it.
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Originally Posted By Autumnal
Women talking about how they are all nice and do small little things like Lucifer mentions are also delusional. I don't know why anyone here would listen to anything the women say, they function on such a fundamentally different wavelength than us. They'll never listen to our advice and their advice to us is useless, because they lack the introspection to realize what they actually like. Modern American women do not do cute little things for their boyfriends nowadays. Or the older married dudes who say their wives do it, congrats, but this isn't 2008. I've been on dates with at least a hundred women in the past 5 years and it is only when I backpacked in Asia that I noticed women actually do these nice, caring things for guys. I was in bed with a hangover and this random girl cooked me soup---I think the last thing a Western girl cooked for me was a freezerburnt grocery store pizza for both of us. Women here see dudes talking about these nice things and delude themselves by going "I do that too!' You don't. Lucifer isn't talking about doing the dishes after yourself, but the concept of doing these little shows of caring is such a foreign concept to you you can't even comprehend it. I've done simple chit with women I date like cook for them, give them scalp massages while laying on the couch together, etc. and they do nothing back. They're passive recipients of affection, and I eventually learned how useless it was to offer them things like that.
You more or less can find this exact post on here 10 years ago. The "westernized women" boogeyman has been a long time favorite of those that wish to externalize their shortcomings and place blame on others to make themselves feel better. Or, you are just into crazy and disregard the normal/nice ones before they even get a chance.

Nice people do nice things for people they care about, I am even more baffled than before that this is a foreign concept to many.
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Originally Posted By jimbong
Nice people do nice things for people they care about, I am even more baffled than before that this is a foreign concept to many.
Go to any town in the south or the mid west and you'll find nice people doing nice things to people.
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Originally Posted By DanielleGreen
Go to any town in the south or the mid west and you'll find nice people doing nice things to people.
I am born and raised in the Midwest and yeah, we are good people here.

With that said I have friends and family on the West Coast and they are fine people as well. Maybe it is just our family values at work on that one and we churn out good people. I would have been super skeptical of dating a girl who didn't have a quality family that she'd was close with.
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Originally Posted By DanielleGreen
Go to any town in the south or the mid west and you'll find nice people doing nice things to people.
As a dude who lives in the Midwest, this is not completely true. I live in the Chicago suburbs and not everyone is friendly, at least not ones who are church going. I've met a lot of friendly people but also met alot of people who were *******s and bitches.

Side note, there's also not alot of hot women in Illinois compared to warmer areas.
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Originally Posted By Autumnal
Man this thread is sometimes amusing but yikes. I'm pretty sure DanielleGreen lives in my city, and if she can't find a fit 40-something guy here that is 100% her fault. We're one of the healthiest states and the least obese in the entire country. It's the default expectation here that people here are active and fit. SilenceSpeaks is also very clearly insane, the entire time I've seen her on the misc she seems to post the same exact same scenarios and never learns from them once.

Women talking about how they are all nice and do small little things like Lucifer mentions are also delusional. I don't know why anyone here would listen to anything the women say, they function on such a fundamentally different wavelength than us. They'll never listen to our advice and their advice to us is useless, because they lack the introspection to realize what they actually like.Modern American women do not do cute little things for their boyfriends nowadays. Or the older married dudes who say their wives do it, congrats, but this isn't 2008. I've been on dates with at least a hundred women in the past 5 years and it is only when I backpacked in Asia that I noticed women actually do these nice, caring things for guys. I was in bed with a hangover and this random girl cooked me soup---I think the last thing a Western girl cooked for me was a freezerburnt grocery store pizza for both of us. Women here see dudes talking about these nice things and delude themselves by going "I do that too!' You don't. Lucifer isn't talking about doing the dishes after yourself, but the concept of doing these little shows of caring is such a foreign concept to you you can't even comprehend it. I've done simple chit with women I date like cook for them, give them scalp massages while laying on the couch together, etc. and they do nothing back.They're passive recipients of affection, and I eventually learned how useless it was to offer them things like that.

Stop making up qualities about the type of person you are and try to objectively analyze yourself for once. If you were the type of women you pretend to be you would not be single, that simple. But like I said earlier, this is useless advice to give and they won't listen. SilenceSpeaks is gonna keep it up well into her 60s I imagine. I don't believe for a second the way most women in this thread portray themselves---not because normal, caring women exist, it just seems very obvious they aren't them.
Wait, what? Women are constantly doing more for me than I do for them and are affectionate towards me. Sure, there are women out there like you describe. I filter those kind of women our real quick, usually before the first date. It's pretty obvious if you are having to do all the work. Her just showing up is not good enough.

I date purely on a reward system. If she makes an effort, then I will make an effort. If she doesn't, then next. Obviously as the man, you have to get the ball rolling, but she should be the one keeping it rolling.
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Originally Posted By jimbong
You more or less can find this exact post on here 10 years ago. The "westernized women" boogeyman has been a long time favorite of those that wish to externalize their shortcomings and place blame on others to make themselves feel better. Or, you are just into crazy and disregard the normal/nice ones before they even get a chance.

Nice people do nice things for people they care about, I am even more baffled than before that this is a foreign concept to many.
Or maybe you should stop filtering out everyone else’s opinion because you married a long time ago? I’m not sure why you think your opinion is more valid than everyone else here who is actually single and dating in modern times. Don’t even understand your participation in this thread except to bring up your marriage as often as possible. It’s also cute you talk about all those high quality single women you know, since you can so obviously determine their dateability based off their professional facade.

You people talking about the South—-I lived in South Carolina for ten years, the niceness down there is not the same as being affectionate or “subservient”, and those nice people are often hell behind closed doors. Honestly can barely think of any relationships of anyone I knew down there that weren’t toxic beneath the surface. Almost all of us were educated, attractive, relatively sane, and with reasonable standards. You guys again think affection/romance is the same as acting nice or cleaning your own dishes. I’m also a nurse and the majority of my past relationships are nurses or the like—-supposedly the most compassionate and trusted types of people, as well as being considered pretty high quality.
Originally Posted By pondus_levo
Wait, what? Women are constantly doing more for me than I do for them and are affectionate towards me. Sure, there are women out there like you describe. I filter those kind of women our real quick, usually before the first date. It's pretty obvious if you are having to do all the work. Her just showing up is not good enough.

I date purely on a reward system. If she makes an effort, then I will make an effort. If she doesn't, then next. Obviously as the man, you have to get the ball rolling, but she should be the one keeping it rolling.
Yet you are still here desperately trying to date after countless years of talking about it. The superficial affection you’re receiving in the honeymoon phase clearly hasn’t ever ended up being what you want it to be. No offense but I get the feeling a lot of these women see you as a lost puppy and try to give you what you want, but in the end they can’t keep it up
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Originally Posted By BlackScorpio91
As a dude who lives in the Midwest, this is not completely true. I live in the Chicago suburbs and not everyone is friendly, at least not ones who are church going. I've met a lot of friendly people but also met alot of people who were *******s and bitches.

Side note, there's also not alot of hot women in Illinois compared to warmer areas.
Yeah Chi-town is on another level. The people I ran into here from Chicago are usually pretty rude.
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