Hmm are you sure about Asian women not wanting to date outside their race? From my understanding they see white men as a status symbol and highly desirable.

Hmm are you sure about Asian women not wanting to date outside their race? From my understanding they see white men as a status symbol and highly desirable.

So is it westernized Asians who prefer white men and traditional Asians who prefer Asian men? But then what about white men going to Asia and being revered by Asian women there? I understand that adoration is partly for money/greencard but isn’t it also based on skin color?

Idk I’m just going by the stereotypes I’ve heard but I think it’s an interesting subject. I’ve dated outside my race before but I didn’t like it and now just want to date my own race. Race is an interesting issue in dating with some people saying you should consider all races and other people saying it’s fine to just date your own.

So is it westernized Asians who prefer white men and traditional Asians who prefer Asian men? But then what about white men going to Asia and being revered by Asian women there? I understand that adoration is partly for money/greencard but isn’t it also based on skin color?

Idk I’m just going by the stereotypes I’ve heard but I think it’s an interesting subject. I’ve dated outside my race before but I didn’t like it and now just want to date my own race. Race is an interesting issue in dating with some people saying you should consider all races and other people saying it’s fine to just date your own.

Yeah dudes 40+ and 50+ that are in shape and young are most likely bachelors for life in my city. This one guy at my job is an IT manager who's salt n pepper is very flirtatious, fit, skis, crass humor, etc. He's good looking, but when he was talking about threesomes and looking straight at me it turned me off. I'm only nice to him since he hooked me up with some new monitors, other than that I avoid.

You're attracted to him and yet you got turned off because he was talking about sex?

That don't make no sense. You like sex right? So how can you be turned off by someone talking about sex? Only way would be if you were not attracted to him.

Yeah ofc those things are all attractive, IF the guy also physically looks attractive.

And I really believe many women are either not honest or not self aware when they deny the importance of looks in attraction.

Had this conversation with you and other female miscers before lol:

Oh looks are not important, it’s about personality!!!

Ok so is your bf/hb unattractive then?

Oh no he is a total Chad!!! But just by coincidence because I totally fell just for his personality!

It’s like come on lady either you’re lying about your bf/hb being a Chad or you’re lying about it not mattering.

I guess I dont know the guys I see in public age. The guys I do get to know tend to be active, as that's how I end up getting to know them. So I have a distorted sense of it maybe.

I dont think 40 yr old men are comparable to 25 yr olds obviously.

There is a big difference between someone like myself objectively identifying a 23 year old woman as attractive, versus only finding them attractive and setting my dating standards to that type of look. I agree with Lucifer's comment. To me, it would not speak well of a man's maturity if, in his mid forties, he could only find himself attracted to twenty somethings. I don't think I could date anyone under 35, and even that's pushing it.

Man this thread is sometimes amusing but yikes. I'm pretty sure DanielleGreen lives in my city, and if she can't find a fit 40-something guy here that is 100% her fault. We're one of the healthiest states and the least obese in the entire country. It's the default expectation here that people here are active and fit. SilenceSpeaks is also very clearly insane, the entire time I've seen her on the misc she seems to post the same exact same scenarios and never learns from them once.

Women talking about how they are all nice and do small little things like Lucifer mentions are also delusional. I don't know why anyone here would listen to anything the women say, they function on such a fundamentally different wavelength than us. They'll never listen to our advice and their advice to us is useless, because they lack the introspection to realize what they actually like. Modern American women do not do cute little things for their boyfriends nowadays. Or the older married dudes who say their wives do it, congrats, but this isn't 2008. I've been on dates with at least a hundred women in the past 5 years and it is only when I backpacked in Asia that I noticed women actually do these nice, caring things for guys. I was in bed with a hangover and this random girl cooked me soup---I think the last thing a Western girl cooked for me was a freezerburnt grocery store pizza for both of us. Women here see dudes talking about these nice things and delude themselves by going "I do that too!' You don't. Lucifer isn't talking about doing the dishes after yourself, but the concept of doing these little shows of caring is such a foreign concept to you you can't even comprehend it. I've done simple chit with women I date like cook for them, give them scalp massages while laying on the couch together, etc. and they do nothing back. They're passive recipients of affection, and I eventually learned how useless it was to offer them things like that.

Stop making up qualities about the type of person you are and try to objectively analyze yourself for once. If you were the type of women you pretend to be you would not be single, that simple. But like I said earlier, this is useless advice to give and they won't listen. SilenceSpeaks is gonna keep it up well into her 60s I imagine. I don't believe for a second the way most women in this thread portray themselves---not because normal, caring women exist, it just seems very obvious they aren't them.

Actually traditional Asian women practically never even date outside of their ethnicity/nationality, let alone their race. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's a ridiculous expectation to have. I see plenty of white guys assume that a girl is traditional because she's Asian and not a blatantly loudmouth obnoxious kunt, but more often than not it's the type of girl no Asian man who knows better would ever take seriously.

Anyways, I can see the appeal. Most of the girls I've dated, and the one I'm marrying soon, have been Asian Asian rather than Americanized ones, despite the fact that I'm fairly Americanized myself.

As for being "subservient," it's the wrong way to describe what everyone is talking about considering that it has an inherently negative connotation. That being nurturing and feminine is framed in such a way is in large part what I see as a problem in American (and probably Western) culture.

Hmm are you sure about Asian women not wanting to date outside their race? From my understanding they see white men as a status symbol and highly desirable.

Re the conversation about being sexually aggressive. You brahs may be onto something. I've gotten better results from cold approaches where I just straight up call them fine/cute/etc. with strong eye contact as opposed to work/school convos. Gonna start going out sober and channeling my inner blackscorpio9...just sucks I can't dance lol

He sounds like a creep. Talking like that is not attractive, no matter how physically attractive you may be.



Are you serious? You think it's appropriate to talk about sex and threesomes with a co worker who's never even flirted with you?



Don't forget Cass said her hubby is tall. At least I think I remember her saying that. So he's a tall Chad but looks aren't important. lol



I think you do have a distorted sense of it. If you're surrounded by active fit people because you're in sports related activities with them, then you're going to think that's the norm. Sadly, it is not. The vast majority of the population are not physically fit.



Standingovation.gif. Of course most of us think younger people are attractive. That doesn't mean we want to date or have sex with them. I know guys my age who have no interest in dating 20somethings or even early 30somethings.



lol at assuming you know what someone you've never met is like IRL.

It's all in the delivery. If they see you a genuine they are going to be more receptive. You really have to start flirting as quickly as you can to show them that you are a viable sexual option and not just another chump. Chumps beat around the bush and are not honest about their intentions. Women are not naive. They know the only reason you are talking to them is because you want to date them. Just don't act like a chump.

Re the conversation about being sexually aggressive. You brahs may be onto something. I've gotten better results from cold approaches where I just straight up call them fine/cute/etc. with strong eye contact as opposed to work/school convos. Gonna start going out sober and channeling my inner blackscorpio9...just sucks I can't dance lol

Not with a coworker at work of all places but everywhere else is fair game.

Honestly the reason they don't like younger women is because they can't get younger women and they know it and they're coping. Do honestly believe a guy who's 50 who has alot going on for himself and is in shape is gonna be dating some woman his age when the majority of his age group is fat and old looking? Come on now. I know I wouldn't LOL.

Well Danielle was talking about a co worker at work or a work function. Plus, who talks like that to someone who has shown no interest in them? That's major try hard and cringey.

And lol at you saying those guys can't get younger women. Like EctoBgone they are attractive men, plus have good jobs/careers. As a matter of fact, I know guys who are late 20's who wouldn't want to date young 20's.

As for all the hate on SS, I think you guys are just jealous that she's obviously an attractive older woman who can get young chads. Who is she hurting by wanting a younger guy? She's not tricking these guys, lying to them or anything. She's also realistic in knowing it's not going to turn into a relationship.

Don't forget Cass said her hubby is tall. At least I think I remember her saying that. So he's a tall Chad but looks aren't important. lol
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Well he's barely 6'1 so practically a manlet in misc. standards.

I don't think you guys would consider him a Chad or anything. It would be weird to married to a Chad anyways since I look pretty average myself.

I'm 6'1" and been called a manlet quite a few times on misc. Lol.





Per being sexually aggressive. Been my go to strategy since 13. Ive smashed.more time in parking lot than I've been on dates. Srs.

Nice, I'm assuming those were bar/club parking lots though? That strategy works occasionally in very specific environments, when the woman is sexually available, and highly physically attracted to the man in question. Otherwise, in my experience, female sexual arousal is tied to emotional feeling as well, especially for those chicks who don't want to feel like sluts.

It's all in the delivery. If they see you a genuine they are going to be more receptive. You really have to start flirting as quickly as you can to show them that you are a viable sexual option and not just another chump. Chumps beat around the bush and are not honest about their intentions. Women are not naive. They know the only reason you are talking to them is because you want to date them. Just don't act like a chump.

Being sexual works outside bars and clubs too dude. You're acting women don't get turned on while out and about.

this is some reformed beta cope; you don't need to outright hit on a girl to close whenever you want. lmao

You're an woman so you don't understand but even if a woman ain't showing choosing signals, at least I'm still direct anyway because you never know if she might actually like you since not all women show overt signs she likes you. I don't just wait for women to send me IOIs for me to be direct with them. That's what cowards do. Pondus mentioned he gets as sexual as possible to rule out if they're interested in him or not. Now if it's REALLY obvious a woman doesn't like you like one word answers then I can see your point.

I'm in my late 20s and wouldn't mind fuking a early 20s woman, date is another story. I'm just keeping it real, alot of times men who don't want to date younger women can't get them, period. I can understand not wanting to date them but to have casual sex with? You're a damn fool if you say no. You telling a 50 year old dude wouldn't want to fuk a 40 year old woman? Come on now.

Nice red herring.

I'm not doubting that it works with women outside of that environment as well, just that in my experience that type of approach works best when alcohol is flowing. I'm sure your method has a certain success rate, but it also alienates certain women who have different attraction triggers and who need a certain degree of emotional/intellectual stimulation for sex. It doesn't have to take a long time either--I've closed on Date #1 or 2 with those type of women. Obviously though if you want to weed out those women then I guess your approach is best.

I disagree that you have to talk sexual to know if a woman is interested. I've had guys not do that and I make it clear if I'm interested or not. If you can't tell if a woman is interested without going straight to hard core sex talk, then I've got sum bad newz.

I wasn't talking about sex and yes, I know guys who could have sex with 20somethings and choose not to. You're clearly talking about pumping and dumping and not all guys are interested in that. As hard as it is for you to believe, there are men out there who want more than just a hook up and they want substance as well. Just as I can not speak for all women, you can not speak for all men so stop assuming you know what every 40-50 year old man wants.

Anyone who thinks there is only one way to do anything is almost certainly wrong

I disagree that you have to talk sexual to know if a woman is interested. I've had guys not do that and I make it clear if I'm interested or not. If you can't tell if a woman is interested without going straight to hard core sex talk, then I've got sum bad newz.

I wasn't talking about sex and yes, I know guys who could have sex with 20somethings and choose not to. You're clearly talking about pumping and dumping and not all guys are interested in that. As hard as it is for you to believe, there are men out there who want more than just a hook up and they want substance as well. Just as I can not speak for all women, you can not speak for all men so stop assuming you know what every 40-50 year old man wants.

I legit lmaoed at "reformed beta cope".