Thread: How did Will Smith fall off?
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Originally Posted By DanteEdmond⏩
I think what really helped him break away was that he didn't really "act" in Fresh Prince, he just played himself. So when he started doing movies, you didn't think "oh that's that character from that show", you thought "oh that's Will Smith acting". The only other sitcom characters it can work for is people who played themselves like Jerry Seinfeld, Ray Romano, Larry David, etc., but none of those people ever tried becoming a movie star.Nah, he's a legitimately well-rounded actor. Movies like "I Am Legend," "Independence Day," "Enemy of the State," "Pursuit of Happyness," "I, Robot" --- all show that he can handle action and drama role.
It's not just luck that he was able to break away after Fresh Prince. Look at so many good actors who began in sitcoms. 90% of the time, those actors go nowhere once the show ends because the audiences will typecast them. Will Smith is the the big one who didn't have the same fate.
It's not just luck that he was able to break away after Fresh Prince. Look at so many good actors who began in sitcoms. 90% of the time, those actors go nowhere once the show ends because the audiences will typecast them. Will Smith is the the big one who didn't have the same fate.
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07-15-2019, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By yeshli2nuts⏩
I think the actors of friends as wellI think what really helped him break away was that he didn't really "act" in Fresh Prince, he just played himself. So when he started doing movies, you didn't think "oh that's that character from that show", you thought "oh that's Will Smith acting". The only other sitcom characters it can work for is people who played themselves like Jerry Seinfeld, Ray Romano, Larry David, etc., but none of those people ever tried becoming a movie star.
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07-15-2019, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted By yeshli2nuts⏩
Jamie Foxx is comparable Will Smith. Foxx got his first big break in "The Jamie Foxx Show," playing himself. The show ended in 2001, and he'd go on to star in "Ray," "Collateral," "Django."I think what really helped him break away was that he didn't really "act" in Fresh Prince, he just played himself. So when he started doing movies, you didn't think "oh that's that character from that show", you thought "oh that's Will Smith acting".The only other sitcom characters it can work for is people who played themselves like Jerry Seinfeld, Ray Romano, Larry David, etc., but none of those people ever tried becoming a movie star.
Perhaps playing yourself is the way to succeed after a sitcom.

07-15-2019, 10:51 AM
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Probably the scientology lunacy caught up to his whole family and at this point they're complete nutcases. Although I suspect Jada Pinkett might have been the original nutcase.
Imo the cut-off between his great/good/decent and chit movies was around The pursuit of happiness/I am Legend.
Imo the cut-off between his great/good/decent and chit movies was around The pursuit of happiness/I am Legend.
07-15-2019, 11:11 AM
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I think the guy should just call it quits. Guy has been acting since the 90s and expects to get the same big roles that he had but lets be honest most of his roles are somewhat similar either being serious or action. The audience obviously want some fresh faces and the guy has just become old but he refuses to let go
07-15-2019, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted By scudda⏩
But people like Tom Cruise are still going strongI think the guy should just call it quits. Guy has been acting since the 90s and expects to get the same big roles that he had but lets be honest most of his roles are somewhat similar either being serious or action. The audience obviously want some fresh faces and the guy has just become old but he refuses to let go
07-15-2019, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Fuqdatass⏩
Some shoddy CGI but that's such a dope concept for a movie.His new movie actually looks pretty good.
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Originally Posted By DanteEdmond⏩
Pretty sure it's confirmed that his son is gettin creampied on the regular. Tyler The Creator drops loads in em, he's got pink hair. He even has white hipster friends with wierd clothes.His son might be homosexual.
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Originally Posted By 2RDEYE⏩
Only Jennifer Aniston was able to have any kind of movie career, and even her roles were pretty much all the same (the love interest in a romantic comedy). Joey, Ross, Chandler, Phoebe, and Monica never made it big in movies, because they will always be remembered as "Joey from Friends"I think the actors of friends as well
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I liked after Earth...also, his son was brilliant in Karate Kid. so fu op
07-15-2019, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted By Fuqdatass⏩
In a shady laboratory born and raisedHis new movie actually looks pretty good.
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He’s always been a chit actor... people are just starting to realize it now (finally). He just picked some good scripts in the past that were guaranteed summer blockbusters that made money.
Compare him to guys like Brad Pitt... Leo di Caprio... Daniel Day Lewis... Christian Bale... he cant hold a candle to any of them. Dude can barely even pull off a simple accent lol. Tom Cruise is a blockbuster guy now and even HE has more of a screen presence than Will does (and is more versatile).
Compare him to guys like Brad Pitt... Leo di Caprio... Daniel Day Lewis... Christian Bale... he cant hold a candle to any of them. Dude can barely even pull off a simple accent lol. Tom Cruise is a blockbuster guy now and even HE has more of a screen presence than Will does (and is more versatile).
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He got type cast as “aww hell no” <blacktastic reaction> guy. Denzel or Idris are more careful to keep the cornballery down. I dont think its his fault though. It seems like once youve been in the business ~25 years either youre perceived to have dynamic range or youre considered a one trick pony. That one trick pony status might not even be your fault but if audiences just see you as that one thing sometimes perception becomes reality.
For the record Bright was actually a good movie and role but fuk if that character isnt the epitome of oh hell no guy that hes played in independence day, bad boys, mib, i am legend, pretty much the majority of non super serious roles hes done. I guarantee you his agent has told him to dead any scripts with a bunch of those scenes.
PS people should really leave his son alone. Will accepts him as he is. I would consider him a great father for that. Also dude has enough money to quietly buy every account in this thread and edit the posts to say hes great. Thats pretty powerful if you think about it.
For the record Bright was actually a good movie and role but fuk if that character isnt the epitome of oh hell no guy that hes played in independence day, bad boys, mib, i am legend, pretty much the majority of non super serious roles hes done. I guarantee you his agent has told him to dead any scripts with a bunch of those scenes.
PS people should really leave his son alone. Will accepts him as he is. I would consider him a great father for that. Also dude has enough money to quietly buy every account in this thread and edit the posts to say hes great. Thats pretty powerful if you think about it.
07-15-2019, 12:38 PM
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As soon as he started trying to involve his son in his projects his career seemed to deflate a little. After Earth was crap. After that, I think it's just a combination of picking bad projects/getting older/the general bad Scientology vibes
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Originally Posted By DanteEdmond⏩
Tom Cruise is even better than Will Smith at selecting scripts. In fact he’s probably the best I’ve ever seen in that regard. AND he can actually act. Collateral... Interview with the vampire... Tropic Thunder...But people like Tom Cruise are still going strong
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Originally Posted By DanteEdmond⏩
It's hard to be comic relief when you are middle aged, he did OK in the third Men in Black though. Otherwise he has had a string of ****ty movies, especially the space one with his kid.Since I was a child during the 1990s, Will Smith was always considered "the man." People found him funny and charismatic in Fresh Prince. He won awards for his rap albums. He made box-office hits like Independence Day, Men in Black, and Bad Boys. He made critically acclaimed movies, like Enemy of the State. He got nominated for Oscars for Ali and Pursuit of Happyness. Around the time he made "I am Legend," he was considered the #1 lead actor in Hollywood. People used to say that comedians couldn't talk about Will Smith; there just wasn't a joke you could make about someone so A+.
Then what happened?
His movie "After Earth" bombed hard. Movies like "Concussion," "Bright," and "Focus" were underwhelming. His son might be homosexual.
The primary opinion of Will Smith today is negative.

Then what happened?
His movie "After Earth" bombed hard. Movies like "Concussion," "Bright," and "Focus" were underwhelming. His son might be homosexual.
The primary opinion of Will Smith today is negative.

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Originally Posted By EnderG60⏩
Terrible comparison. Adam Sandler appeals to the scat and sex crazed 13-year-old audience and is not even remotely funny.. his last good movie was Funny People, and that’s saying somethingHes not a great actor, hes just funny. Then he tried to pass the torch to his tard of a son who promptly took said torch and peed it out.
Hes on par with Adam sandler at this point and he just needs to bow out gracefully.
Hes on par with Adam sandler at this point and he just needs to bow out gracefully.

I think Will has taken some time off movies to focus on building his children’s legacy, while also doing other stuff. Those mixed reviews for his recent movies (besides Aladdin) didn’t help much though.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
I just can't see Will Smith as a super soldier though. Unless there is some other twist going on.Some shoddy CGI but that's such a dope concept for a movie.
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His son.
Pretty much that tbh.
And now his wife wanting the spotlight.
Pretty much that tbh.
And now his wife wanting the spotlight.
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