Wow, really? Not really the kids choice though if moron parents don't vaccinate them.NY finally did something smart and legislation just passed making vaccines mandatory for public school admission at every level of education. No more religious exemption bs either. Only legitimate medical reason's are exemptions. As for mercuy in flu shots. Mine have been mercury free for years. Pharmacist explains this.

33 years old

The one time I had yearly flu vaccine is the one time I had the flu and was about a week after the shot

Never had one since

As for measle, mumps rubella etc that may be different

this.

anti-vaxxers are like the modern day darwinism.

I don't blame anti-vaxers at all for questioning and not trusting politicians and scientists in 2019...

brb being called 'anti-science' by a globalist bunch of snob politicians and scientists who in the same breath will tell you that there's no such thing as gender and that the world will end in a few years if you don't convert to socialism.

I wasn't aware that Darwin supported forcing chemical injections into people for profit. Aware me?
I thought that vaccines prevented infection of the person getting the shot?










For the record, I am not 100% against vaccinations. I am 1000% against forced injections. And if someone's kids aren't allowed into school because they didn't get a vaccination, that's cool. Let them be home schooled and get a massive tax rebate.

mercury dosage for flu shots here :
https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-b...l-and-vaccines.
This is for flu, non-flu usually consists of mercury still.



https://ajph.aphapublications.org/do...AJPH.4.4.289-a
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^this is what i posted before, it's basically showing virus' do die dramatically overtime irregardless of vaccines.

Here's another chart from a pro-vaccine place in regards of measles over time


I'm not against vaccines. I just want to be choosy of which ones based on probability. If an illness is relatively old and considered dead I probably am not going to take it, because it doesn't feel right to inject myself with chemicals that may do damage.
It just doesn't seem to be worth the risk, most probably won't agree with me. That's okay.

I originally had a big post going more deeper. But then I realized this topic means a lot more to you than me, and since I'm not 100% against vaccines it seems a bit fruitless to argue of why I'm in the middle any further.

I respect that your fighting for your view against most people in this thread, Just a shame you had to put words in my mouth that I'm a conspiracy theorist, among other things, when I'm not even 100% against vaccines.

Did you know that babies under 6 months old and certain people with legit medical issues cannot be vaccinated? Any person who CAN get vaccinated but chooses not to puts those people at risk. Hence, you choosing not to get vaccinated and potentially inhibiting the eradication of the disease is affecting the entire world's population.

It's darwinism. If they die, they die.

That's a interesting point of view.

Rep this man.

I didn't put any words in your mouth, rather, I pointed out that the sources you'd used for the data in your post were clearly conspiracy theory websites and personal blogs- hardly reliable sources when compared to peer reviewed literature from all over the world. If you're going to hold up conspiracy websites and blogs as your knowledge source, then unfortunately, you place yourself more in the category of conspiracy theorist (I enjoy a good conspiracy as much as the next person but antivax is just madness). The other data you provide either supports vaccine usage or is from an over 100 year-old article that doesn't really say much at all with regards to what we know (and have experienced) to date.This is an info page from CDC (a decent source) on thiomersal in vaccines. I'm not sure how you read it but it's informing on the safety of that compound and further, how it's not used in all vaccines. It's not fluvax specific as you state.
Earlier, an astute poster provided a link to an article (admittedly, not peer reviewed and from Forbes but with easily testable claims) that showed the difference between the mercury compound in vaccines versus your tuna. You might care to read it if you're concerned about accumulation of potential neurotoxins.
This chart is from Oxford University (vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/sites/default/files/u77/Measles_cases_1940-1995.jpg)- while I'm sure many there are "pro-vaccine", their views are based on evidence and science. This is a reputable source to look at. Additionally, it only serves to prove the point (which you somehow continue to miss), that vaccine preventable illnesses like measles have only declined since the introduction of vaccines. Why are you posting something that goes against your argument? This is good evidence for continuing to vaccinate; measles persists today but thanks to vaccines the rates are much-reduced and fewer people suffer.You should carefully consider where you take your data from. As I stated before, you've quoted probabilites from either no- or questionable sources and haven't accounted for the whole picture. As I also said, you should talk to some people who work in healthcare or go and volunteer yourself and see that this is still a very real threat and people continue to suffer today- something that's unfortunately happening increasingly due to people blindly disregarding massive bodies of evidence, thousands of experts, and sound data collected over the last century in favour of a blog they read online or an agenda pushed by a celebrity.

A reading of the thread will show there are many people who share the same reasoned viewpoint of myself (and the majority of the educated world) in this thread. My userCP also reflects this.

Well, I don't get the flu vaccine as I know something about its continued development. The excessive focus on the prior strain and the prognostications about the next big strain to come play a big part in the year's vaccine content. I believe these are logical fallacies and don't participate in the program, but to each his own.

https://linktr.ee/CensoredScience

Read and weep pharma worshippers. Unfortunately the issue isnt black and white.

Vaccines are fine. Everyone should get vaccinated imo.

Flu shots on the other hand are a fukn rip off.

They are kinda unnecessary if you're healthy and have a good immune system. In most other countries they are mainly given to the elderly, small children, healthcare workers, and those with medical conditions that leave them immunocompromised.

That's about the only somewhat valid argument against vaccines anyone can make.

One week is longer than the incubation period of flu, and shorter than the time it takes for a flu vaccination to become effective. Go back to your cave you dumb troll.

Look mate, we don't need your logic and application of readily available, peer-reviewed scientific knowledge here. This is the misc, where everyone is 7' tall, packing at least 9", minimum IQ of 180 and we were never babies, sick, or had anyone young, unwell or elderly we cared about- why would you need to consult peasants like scientists and doctors when you've got all that. Sickness is for the weak, vaccines are for the stupid.


*content of post is entirely sarcastic (clarification likely required given the dismal levels of intellectual aptitude and reading comprehension on show ITT)

Brb its neurotoxins brb its mercury brb its eradicated anyways brb autism brb you get it anyways.

This thread is bursting with actual links of actual sources proving that this anti vaccine stuff is absolute nonsense. Illogical thinking.

Itt we have people born in the western world, where those around them have been vaccinated for the most part and have never seen disease. Ie too much comfort and time on their hands. If you actually saw disease and were worried about what you had to eat i bet my house that you would be singing a different tune.

Flu shot is 100% a scam. Might as well be snake oil.

Your example is about an absurd study conducted between 1932-1972 specifically on 600 black men by unethical "doctors". Once the truth came out about that debacle, it brought a ton of changes as to how such studies can be conducted to prevent it happening so easily in the future.

Obviously, it was a horrible thing that they did those people. But you are proposing that a small group of unethical idiots who specifically targeted a very small number of people (600 people is not a large number in the grand scheme of things, especially when compared to ALL people in general) from a very specific demographic (black men) to conduct an immensely unethical "study". A study that began 7 years before WW2 began over in Europe in 1939, and ended just 8 years after the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Again, what happened in that fiasco was horrendous. But you are taking that one example and deciding that the same sort of thing is being done to basically the ENTIRE population in the U.S. and basically all westernized countries with 1st world modern western medical care practices. You are also assuming that it is happening with not just 1 vaccine, but with most/all of them. You also disregard how immensely difficult that level of cover up in the modern medical world would be. It's not like they're having just small, uninformed groups of impoverished people taking these things on vague claims of supposed benefits like they did in the Tuskegee experiment.

As for the autism specific claims, I'm not the first one to bring this up, but how do you explain Asian countries like Japan with super high fish/seafood based diets (therefor much higher dietary mercury) having almost the exact same rates of autism as the U.S. and other western countries? Is it not the mercury, and something else anti-vaxxers blame now? Why do not take into account the issues of under-diagnosing of mental issues pre-1990's and the immense over-diagnosing of them in the modern era, where every kid with a slightly odd quirk can easily be labeled as having, ADHD or being autistic or something? Have you ever met people who were diagnosed with the very mild form of autism formerly known under the "Aspergers" label? Well now they're all put under one broad label on a "spectrum" that makes it look like far more people with full-blown significant autism issues to people who don't know any better.

Those are just a few examples of the numerous issues with your post that you failed to consider. Yet you try to tell me I'm the one who needs to go back to reddit... breh, you're projecting lol.

That guy's entire shtick before he left for a couple years was built around him joking about being the leader of the misc baldcels. He didn't magically become a bastion of enlightenment just because he got 30k reps from nostalgic miscers longing for the past of this place. Maybe I seem like I'm being kind of hard on him here, but he doubled and tripled down on the ridiculousness ITT, so I have a hard time seeing past that right now.

It's advisable to get vaccinated for various things.

Germ theory seems to be borne out.

It doesn't seem that shots cause autism or anything on that spectrum...

Imo...it can be induced...stress related. Super high stress fear of imminent death. Called PTSD but that is a syndrome of idk even.

I suspect environment induced bipolar.

Whatever happened to "My Body, My Choice"??? Lol, as a fully vaccinated person, IDGAF what the next person does with their body...