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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
The guy has a net worth of 107 billion dollars. Why doesn't he practice what he preaches, and give a huge chunk of that to a social program?That's great that Bill Gates, one of the greatest philanthropists of all time, thinks we should tax the rich more
I'm sure not all the rich agree with him
Did we come up with any better ideas today on this? Someone said increase the minimum wage, even though only like 5% of workers actually only earn minimum wage so that won't do much. Any other great ideas? Just take all the money away from the rich and give to the govment?
I'm sure not all the rich agree with him
Did we come up with any better ideas today on this? Someone said increase the minimum wage, even though only like 5% of workers actually only earn minimum wage so that won't do much. Any other great ideas? Just take all the money away from the rich and give to the govment?
11-11-2019, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
sorry bro it takes mass defaulting and foreclosures for that to happen. The demand is up in a lot of places and everyone wants to live in big cities so the prices go up. That's life sonI meant the cycle itself, not necessarily the subprimevloans themselves.
Overvaluation of property and homes leading to a correction.
Overvaluation of property and homes leading to a correction.
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11-11-2019, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
it'd eventually make it's way back to the rich because poor people would waste it on useless chit and not spend any of it wisely. Case in point is most lottery winnersThe money is better invested in businesses, which rises the tide for all. Imagine how wasteful most people would be, if all that money was re-distributed.
That said, there is clearly some problems in America where the homeless and ill, sometimes through pure misfortune, end up desolate on the streets while others live in luxury.
That said, there is clearly some problems in America where the homeless and ill, sometimes through pure misfortune, end up desolate on the streets while others live in luxury.
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11-11-2019, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
So you’re here to talk trash and troll, not have a conversation? Cool. Keep being bitter. Also ironic that you sit here hating though you most likely are posting from a product created or led by the 1% you hate so much. Keep spending. Keep giving them your money. Keep being poor. Keep crying.Why don't we ask Bill Gates what he'd like done?
Bill Gates: Let's increase taxes on all the wealthy
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No one takes you seriously, dumb dave.
Bill Gates: Let's increase taxes on all the wealthy
Random bootlicker on the internet: No Bill Gates earned his money he should keep all of it, his ******* also tastes so goddamn good
No one takes you seriously, dumb dave.
11-11-2019, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217⏩
Yep, someone wins hundreds of millions of dollars, and somehow needs up blowing through it all in five years?it'd eventually make it's way back to the rich because poor people would waste it on useless chit and not spend any of it wisely. Case in point is most lottery winners
11-11-2019, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Post 238.That's great that Bill Gates, one of the greatest philanthropists of all time, thinks we should tax the rich more
I'm sure not all the rich agree with him
Did we come up with any better ideas today on this? Someone said increase the minimum wage, even though only like 5% of workers actually only earn minimum wage so that won't do much. Any other great ideas? Just take all the money away from the rich and give to the govment?
I'm sure not all the rich agree with him
Did we come up with any better ideas today on this? Someone said increase the minimum wage, even though only like 5% of workers actually only earn minimum wage so that won't do much. Any other great ideas? Just take all the money away from the rich and give to the govment?
Just for fun, look at the low paid workers employed in your own country, and mine, by very rich international corporations, and work out how much the government, with tax dollars, your tax dollars, has to assist those people in work to live. Then ask yourself where is Bezos’ money really coming from. Then ask yourself how much money the government, your government, owes, and if it could ever pay it back. Who do you think is going to pay the price ultimately. Main Street Joe, or Bezos? Who paid in 2009?
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11-11-2019, 04:13 PM
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Stop being poor and it won’t bother you.
Really, it’s not that difficult.
Really, it’s not that difficult.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Congratulations, you write paragraphs about white nationalists, and your love of trannies and Socialism....Is that a yes?
Nor do I, in case that's what you are implying. (There are a few posters here on the misc who are right wing, who I respect. There is even one who is a literal fascist.)
Dude is one of the biggest trolls on R/P. Literally all he does is post sarcastic comments to leftist posters.
That's why I surprised that you seem to respect his 'viewpoints'.
Nor do I, in case that's what you are implying. (There are a few posters here on the misc who are right wing, who I respect. There is even one who is a literal fascist.)
Dude is one of the biggest trolls on R/P. Literally all he does is post sarcastic comments to leftist posters.
That's why I surprised that you seem to respect his 'viewpoints'.
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To those who hate billionaires; would you want a world where they didn't exist? For better or for worse they actually drive innovation and help improve society as a whole. They're a double edged sword though I agree and they have to be put in check but I think taxing 90% is ridiculous.
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[QUOTE=isingmodel;1591407051]Why don't we ask Bill Gates what he'd like done?
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/4P2E_0Sr-ZU[/youtube]
Bill Gates: Let's increase taxes on all the wealthy
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Didn't you learn when you were embarrassed saying that many billionares want to be taxed more? How naive do you have to believe that media people are honest with their feelings?
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/4P2E_0Sr-ZU[/youtube]
Bill Gates: Let's increase taxes on all the wealthy
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Didn't you learn when you were embarrassed saying that many billionares want to be taxed more? How naive do you have to believe that media people are honest with their feelings?
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
As Obama said in that one debate in 2007, he doesn't care if lower taxes produces more revenue. Its about FAIRNESSSSSSSTo those who hate billionaires; would you want a world where they didn't exist? For better or for worse they actually drive innovation and help improve society as a whole. They're a double edged sword though I agree and they have to be put in check but I think taxing 90% is ridiculous.
11-11-2019, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted By bobbybondsfan⏩
Isn't Obama about to be a billionaire?As Obama said in that one debate in 2007, he doesn't care if lower taxes produces more revenue. Its about FAIRNESSSSSSS
11-11-2019, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
Ton's of these posters seem like the male version of AOC.To those who hate billionaires; would you want a world where they didn't exist? For better or for worse they actually drive innovation and help improve society as a whole. They're a double edged sword though I agree and they have to be put in check but I think taxing 90% is ridiculous.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: A system that allows billionaires to exist alongside extreme poverty is immoral.
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11-11-2019, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted By JaxBrah⏩
Man you are exactly what these corporate executives want. Do you believe these people are super human or something? I’m not saying that many CEOs aren’t talented but the rules are completely skewed in their favor because they make the rules.damn your dumb. why the hell do you care what the CEOs salary is? take his $30 mil salary and split it amongst the 250,000 JP morgan employees. There you just gave everyone a $120 a year pay raise and eliminated the person with the most responsibility for everyone else to even have a job there. You are so jealous its sickening.
And yea the CEO deserves 600x the average salary because he does 600x more for the company.
people who chit on CEOs really have absolutely no clue as to what they actually do and they themselves could never even dream to be capable of 1/10th of what the CEOs are capable of. You wouldnt even last one typical 18 hour day before you tapped out
And yea the CEO deserves 600x the average salary because he does 600x more for the company.
people who chit on CEOs really have absolutely no clue as to what they actually do and they themselves could never even dream to be capable of 1/10th of what the CEOs are capable of. You wouldnt even last one typical 18 hour day before you tapped out
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Please stop speaking facts and logic.Man you are exactly what these corporate executives want. Do you believe these people are super human or something? I’m not saying that many CEOs aren’t talented but the rules are completely skewed in their favor because they make the rules.
Btw I'm not hating on the rich. Why tf would I? Other than the fact that they pay less tax than you.
And you'd still be on their dink.
I just acknowledge the issue. And the main step towards solving a problem is acknowledging it.
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lmao @ being poor in north america
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Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
Usury is a scam.Housing is a scam, the subprime crisis never ended.
The housing market will continue to grow and pop, each time those with money gobble up more cheap properties, sell for higher, rinse and repeat.
The housing market will continue to grow and pop, each time those with money gobble up more cheap properties, sell for higher, rinse and repeat.
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Why would anyone agree to being taxed more? What's the point of your statement?That's great that Bill Gates, one of the greatest philanthropists of all time, thinks we should tax the rich more
I'm sure not all the rich agree with him
Did we come up with any better ideas today on this? Someone said increase the minimum wage, even though only like 5% of workers actually only earn minimum wage so that won't do much. Any other great ideas? Just take all the money away from the rich and give to the govment?
I'm sure not all the rich agree with him
Did we come up with any better ideas today on this? Someone said increase the minimum wage, even though only like 5% of workers actually only earn minimum wage so that won't do much. Any other great ideas? Just take all the money away from the rich and give to the govment?
We either live in a society where we agree to a certain wealth redistribution or we just agree that those who don't make it to a certain echelon should be doomed to live a terrible life without any help whatsoever.
People have to buy into wanting to help others at the end of the day.
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Originally Posted By Jaroctor⏩
This is where it comes down to at the end of the day.People have to buy into wanting to help others at the end of the day.
But in America, it's never gonna work due to the culture.
We're here all rattled at this statistic but I'm sure it'll stay like this, in America, forever.
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if youre poor in america its your fault.
dont blame other people and demand hand outs because you failed to succeed in a country that has the most available avenues for financial success.
pissening mentality. "im poor, rich people give me your money" lmao sheit kunts.
dont blame other people and demand hand outs because you failed to succeed in a country that has the most available avenues for financial success.
pissening mentality. "im poor, rich people give me your money" lmao sheit kunts.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Aren't you a corporate executive?Man you are exactly what these corporate executives want. Do you believe these people are super human or something? I’m not saying that many CEOs aren’t talented but the rules are completely skewed in their favor because they make the rules.
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Originally Posted By Jaroctor⏩
How do you help people who won't help themselves? Also, how do you go about helping them?Why would anyone agree to being taxed more? What's the point of your statement?
We either live in a society where we agree to a certain wealth redistribution or we just agree that those who don't make it to a certain echelon should be doomed to live a terrible life without any help whatsoever.
People have to buy into wanting to help others at the end of the day.
We either live in a society where we agree to a certain wealth redistribution or we just agree that those who don't make it to a certain echelon should be doomed to live a terrible life without any help whatsoever.
People have to buy into wanting to help others at the end of the day.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
So... the idea of a society is stupid?if youre poor in america its your fault.
dont blame other people and demand hand outs because you failed to succeed in a country that has the most available avenues for financial success.
pissening mentality. "im poor, rich people give me your money" lmao sheit kunts.
dont blame other people and demand hand outs because you failed to succeed in a country that has the most available avenues for financial success.
pissening mentality. "im poor, rich people give me your money" lmao sheit kunts.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
What do you mean "won't help themselves?"How do you help people who won't help themselves? Also, how do you go about helping them?
I'm not suggesting we give junkies a bunch of free cash here and destroy mansions.
Some people won't help themselves, sure, but most can't. It's a very, very American mentality to assume that the poor are somehow responsible for their own misery when that is not the case way more often than not.
We go about helping people by actually providing competent services funded by people who can afford to do so, and that shouldn't just be the middle class.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I really don't get it. I want fairness in the world and everything but I just don't think taxing heavy will help anyone in the long run.Ton's of these posters seem like the male version of AOC.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: A system that allows billionaires to exist alongside extreme poverty is immoral.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
They have this mentality that everyone should be living the dream. Face it, if you're a high school dropout with 2-3 kids, you're probably going to be living a pretty ****ty, lower class life.if youre poor in america its your fault.
dont blame other people and demand hand outs because you failed to succeed in a country that has the most available avenues for financial success.
pissening mentality. "im poor, rich people give me your money" lmao sheit kunts.
dont blame other people and demand hand outs because you failed to succeed in a country that has the most available avenues for financial success.
pissening mentality. "im poor, rich people give me your money" lmao sheit kunts.
Hell, even a married couple that's middle class with two kids. If they get divorced, then you can say goodbye to that three bedroom house.
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Originally Posted By Jaroctor⏩
What services? Hell, there's section 8, food stamps, welfare, what else do you want?So... the idea of a society is stupid?
What do you mean "won't help themselves?"
I'm not suggesting we give junkies a bunch of free cash here and destroy mansions.
Some people won't help themselves, most can't.
We go about helping people by actually providing competent services funded by people who can afford to do so, and that shouldn't just be the middle class.
What do you mean "won't help themselves?"
I'm not suggesting we give junkies a bunch of free cash here and destroy mansions.
Some people won't help themselves, most can't.
We go about helping people by actually providing competent services funded by people who can afford to do so, and that shouldn't just be the middle class.
Also, if you're middle class, you don't need any services.
11-11-2019, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
do you think people should receive inheritances? just curiousdont blame other people and demand hand outs because you failed to succeed in a country that has the most available avenues for financial success.
Originally Posted By Jaroctor⏩
for brevity's sake.. ill just say it simply. this is what i think the problem is. im unsure which one is natural - and by "natural" i generally mean the basis upon which humans got this far. either society and altruism is or selfishness isSo... the idea of a society is stupid?
its quite weird, because we are talking extreme selfishness but there is still a semblance of helping society at the same time e.g. bill gates creating that sanitation thing. i really think the root is selfishness but its still got other factors that help society
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