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Tfw you wanna make a joke but don’t know which angle to go at so you don’t get in trouble. We’ve all had that feel. Steer clear of people who are easily offended.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
I dont mean to be a bearer of bad news but that investigation will be in your file forever. Although you didnt do anything wrong and it shows it, it will be there.
File a counter claim against who you thought did it.
File a counter claim against who you thought did it.
Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
Whether or not they call it "in your file" there is certainly a document in HR's folders with everyones names on it and all their statements, your name on it too. The problem is they verbally told you youre in the clear but you have nothing in writing nor do you have a copy, redacted or not, of the report. What if their written report portrays you in a worse light than they led you to believe verbally?That's what I thought. I figured she was just trying to grease the wheels a bit, but I just wanted to get the chit over with. I'm about 90% sure of who it is...Our resident ultra woke, millennial Karen lite. Will a counter claim bring anything back on me?
I would atleast want something in writing that matches the " discrepancies in the stories, and determined that there was no malicious intent on my end" part that they told you verbally. You are going on their word while they have more information than they will give you.
It could be two years down the line and someone else makes some stupid complaint against you and now there are new HR people with a chip on their shoulder, dig up the old report and use it as part of a "trend" and the report they had on file portrayed you in a bad light and said something like you were "verbally counseled". Now all you can do is claim the HR weenies that are now gone verbally told you that you were cleared but you have zero proof.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
Thats good hopefully it matches what they said verbally.The agenda, and summary is being emailed to me. I should have it by end of business today. But I wont know how detailed it will be...Hell it could just say "Nothing to see here folks" and be it. Memecop brought up me initiating a counter claim, so I'll speak with HR and see what that entails. I want to cover my ass as much as possible.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
Would you have described the suspected snitch as a ******* before this all went down?Update:
So I just got out of the meeting, which HR didn't even want to conduct. They were essentially forced to have it in lieu of new policy changes regarding personnel conduct. The complain was made on Thursday, and interviews took place Friday, and yesterday. They found discrepancies in the stories, and determined that there was no malicious intent on my end. Understandably they will not discuss which person made the claim, and consider it closed. I asked if there would be any type of penalties for the person who made a fraudulent claim and they said they weren't at liberty to discuss anything further. So even if something did happen I wouldn't know about it, and would basically be a slap on the wrist. I think I know who it was, but since I can't be sure I'm going to be as reserved as possible around the building. I was never really friends with my coworkers, but I tried to keep things cordial and light.
After the meeting I spoke to the HR supervisor "D" for few minutes and she assured me that I wont have anything on my file that should effect upward or outward mobility moving forward. I just don't want anyone making inquiries into my character and some bullchit situation fuk with my chit.
Lesson learned brahs...Never again.
So I just got out of the meeting, which HR didn't even want to conduct. They were essentially forced to have it in lieu of new policy changes regarding personnel conduct. The complain was made on Thursday, and interviews took place Friday, and yesterday. They found discrepancies in the stories, and determined that there was no malicious intent on my end. Understandably they will not discuss which person made the claim, and consider it closed. I asked if there would be any type of penalties for the person who made a fraudulent claim and they said they weren't at liberty to discuss anything further. So even if something did happen I wouldn't know about it, and would basically be a slap on the wrist. I think I know who it was, but since I can't be sure I'm going to be as reserved as possible around the building. I was never really friends with my coworkers, but I tried to keep things cordial and light.
After the meeting I spoke to the HR supervisor "D" for few minutes and she assured me that I wont have anything on my file that should effect upward or outward mobility moving forward. I just don't want anyone making inquiries into my character and some bullchit situation fuk with my chit.
Lesson learned brahs...Never again.
Edit: nvm saw the description above. Inb4 the next complaint about OP is that he's distant and doesn't communicate like others.
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Originally Posted By TheBrentmeister⏩
Brah if it's who I think it is, that's exactly what's happening. She's apart of the "fresh" and "Young" dynamic the company is trying to introduce and she's a complete pain in the ass. Aside from not being fat she is a textbook guilty, white liberal.Some office folk thrive off things like this. They probably go in everyday HOPING they can bitch or be outraged about something. I'm glad nothing came of it OP!
Originally Posted By memcop⏩
You're evil...I love you. Thanks for the advice.No. You can even make something up. Get on tape making it look like she is making advances at you and basically soccer flop with overly exaggerated emotions.
Have her act out drinking a cup of water and say she said she was going to complain again unless you let her gobble your weenus.
The watercooler irony is baked in.
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Have her act out drinking a cup of water and say she said she was going to complain again unless you let her gobble your weenus.
The watercooler irony is baked in.
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Originally Posted By AlexSays⏩
Thanks brah. I'm just glad there were some rational people in the room that went to bat for me.Glad to hear you dodged the bullet this time
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Originally Posted By AshWar⏩
Me too... See that's crazy. I have guys here still old enough to remember yelling, screaming and cussing each other out in meetings and then going back to work like nothing happened. Now we're shutting down shop for basically nothing.Glad there were no consequences brah. I once got called in to HR for saying “that’s retarded” during a company meeting lel
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
Look at the people that were there. Someone’s going to be pissed. Hr hates trouble makers.Update:
So I just got out of the meeting, which HR didn't even want to conduct. They were essentially forced to have it in lieu of new policy changes regarding personnel conduct. The complain was made on Thursday, and interviews took place Friday, and yesterday. They found discrepancies in the stories, and determined that there was no malicious intent on my end. Understandably they will not discuss which person made the claim, and consider it closed. I asked if there would be any type of penalties for the person who made a fraudulent claim and they said they weren't at liberty to discuss anything further. So even if something did happen I wouldn't know about it, and would basically be a slap on the wrist. I think I know who it was, but since I can't be sure I'm going to be as reserved as possible around the building. I was never really friends with my coworkers, but I tried to keep things cordial and light.
After the meeting I spoke to the HR supervisor "D" for few minutes and she assured me that I wont have anything on my file that should effect upward or outward mobility moving forward. I just don't want anyone making inquiries into my character and some bullchit situation fuk with my chit.
Lesson learned brahs...Never again.
So I just got out of the meeting, which HR didn't even want to conduct. They were essentially forced to have it in lieu of new policy changes regarding personnel conduct. The complain was made on Thursday, and interviews took place Friday, and yesterday. They found discrepancies in the stories, and determined that there was no malicious intent on my end. Understandably they will not discuss which person made the claim, and consider it closed. I asked if there would be any type of penalties for the person who made a fraudulent claim and they said they weren't at liberty to discuss anything further. So even if something did happen I wouldn't know about it, and would basically be a slap on the wrist. I think I know who it was, but since I can't be sure I'm going to be as reserved as possible around the building. I was never really friends with my coworkers, but I tried to keep things cordial and light.
After the meeting I spoke to the HR supervisor "D" for few minutes and she assured me that I wont have anything on my file that should effect upward or outward mobility moving forward. I just don't want anyone making inquiries into my character and some bullchit situation fuk with my chit.
Lesson learned brahs...Never again.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
Sometimes my genius is so significant it can’t be distinguished from telling the future.Update:
So I just got out of the meeting, which HR didn't even want to conduct. They were essentially forced to have it in lieu of new policy changes regarding personnel conduct. The complain was made on Thursday, and interviews took place Friday, and yesterday. They found discrepancies in the stories, and determined that there was no malicious intent on my end. Understandably they will not discuss which person made the claim, and consider it closed. I asked if there would be any type of penalties for the person who made a fraudulent claim and they said they weren't at liberty to discuss anything further. So even if something did happen I wouldn't know about it, and would basically be a slap on the wrist. I think I know who it was, but since I can't be sure I'm going to be as reserved as possible around the building. I was never really friends with my coworkers, but I tried to keep things cordial and light.
After the meeting I spoke to the HR supervisor "D" for few minutes and she assured me that I wont have anything on my file that should effect upward or outward mobility moving forward. I just don't want anyone making inquiries into my character and some bullchit situation fuk with my chit.
Lesson learned brahs...Never again.
So I just got out of the meeting, which HR didn't even want to conduct. They were essentially forced to have it in lieu of new policy changes regarding personnel conduct. The complain was made on Thursday, and interviews took place Friday, and yesterday. They found discrepancies in the stories, and determined that there was no malicious intent on my end. Understandably they will not discuss which person made the claim, and consider it closed. I asked if there would be any type of penalties for the person who made a fraudulent claim and they said they weren't at liberty to discuss anything further. So even if something did happen I wouldn't know about it, and would basically be a slap on the wrist. I think I know who it was, but since I can't be sure I'm going to be as reserved as possible around the building. I was never really friends with my coworkers, but I tried to keep things cordial and light.
After the meeting I spoke to the HR supervisor "D" for few minutes and she assured me that I wont have anything on my file that should effect upward or outward mobility moving forward. I just don't want anyone making inquiries into my character and some bullchit situation fuk with my chit.
Lesson learned brahs...Never again.
It is absolutely bull**** you had to stress about it for a couple days, but it is over. I kind of want to say you probably could easily find out who did it, but it doesn’t matter. It 100% does not matter.
Now get back to work and start making someone else money.
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07-14-2020, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Wh1teDyn0mite⏩
Legit almost spit out my water at bitches n snitches.Fuk thats sucks,
Offices are just like High School, bitches n snitches.
Offices are just like High School, bitches n snitches.
OP, that really is ridiculous that anyone went to HR over that. I can't believe people are that moronic.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
Whether or not they call it "in your file" there is certainly a document in HR's folders with everyones names on it and all their statements, your name on it too. The problem is they verbally told you youre in the clear but you have nothing in writing nor do you have a copy, redacted or not, of the report. What if their written report portrays you in a worse light than they led you to believe verbally?
I would atleast want something in writing that matches the " discrepancies in the stories, and determined that there was no malicious intent on my end" part that they told you verbally. You are going on their word while they have more information than they will give you.
It could be two years down the line and someone else makes some stupid complaint against you and now there are new HR people with a chip on their shoulder, dig up the old report and use it as part of a "trend" and the report they had on file portrayed you in a bad light and said something like you were "verbally counseled". Now all you can do is claim the HR weenies that are now gone verbally told you that you were cleared but you have zero proof.
I would atleast want something in writing that matches the " discrepancies in the stories, and determined that there was no malicious intent on my end" part that they told you verbally. You are going on their word while they have more information than they will give you.
It could be two years down the line and someone else makes some stupid complaint against you and now there are new HR people with a chip on their shoulder, dig up the old report and use it as part of a "trend" and the report they had on file portrayed you in a bad light and said something like you were "verbally counseled". Now all you can do is claim the HR weenies that are now gone verbally told you that you were cleared but you have zero proof.
Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
Do I have any recourse if the summary isn't as thorough as I think it should be? Can I legally dispute it?Thats good hopefully it matches what they said verbally.
Originally Posted By jamalfudge⏩
I was literally just thinking the same thing.Would you have described the suspected snitch as a ******* before this all went down?
Edit: nvm saw the description above. Inb4 the next complaint about OP is that he's distant and doesn't communicate like others.
Edit: nvm saw the description above. Inb4 the next complaint about OP is that he's distant and doesn't communicate like others.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
I love how the lesson learned is to not act like a human being with your co-workers."Lesson learned, I'll just be a complete automaton speaking to these emotional co-workers."At least you didn't get fired.Update:
So I just got out of the meeting, which HR didn't even want to conduct. They were essentially forced to have it in lieu of new policy changes regarding personnel conduct. The complain was made on Thursday, and interviews took place Friday, and yesterday. They found discrepancies in the stories, and determined that there was no malicious intent on my end. Understandably they will not discuss which person made the claim, and consider it closed. I asked if there would be any type of penalties for the person who made a fraudulent claim and they said they weren't at liberty to discuss anything further. So even if something did happen I wouldn't know about it, and would basically be a slap on the wrist. I think I know who it was, but since I can't be sure I'm going to be as reserved as possible around the building. I was never really friends with my coworkers, but I tried to keep things cordial and light.
After the meeting I spoke to the HR supervisor "D" for few minutes and she assured me that I wont have anything on my file that should effect upward or outward mobility moving forward. I just don't want anyone making inquiries into my character and some bullchit situation fuk with my chit.
Lesson learned brahs...Never again.
So I just got out of the meeting, which HR didn't even want to conduct. They were essentially forced to have it in lieu of new policy changes regarding personnel conduct. The complain was made on Thursday, and interviews took place Friday, and yesterday. They found discrepancies in the stories, and determined that there was no malicious intent on my end. Understandably they will not discuss which person made the claim, and consider it closed. I asked if there would be any type of penalties for the person who made a fraudulent claim and they said they weren't at liberty to discuss anything further. So even if something did happen I wouldn't know about it, and would basically be a slap on the wrist. I think I know who it was, but since I can't be sure I'm going to be as reserved as possible around the building. I was never really friends with my coworkers, but I tried to keep things cordial and light.
After the meeting I spoke to the HR supervisor "D" for few minutes and she assured me that I wont have anything on my file that should effect upward or outward mobility moving forward. I just don't want anyone making inquiries into my character and some bullchit situation fuk with my chit.
Lesson learned brahs...Never again.
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I hope you learned that co-workers are not your friends. They snitch on any situation
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Originally Posted By FrankCostanza⏩
I'm pretty sure I know who it is, and I hope she does continue to dig her own grave. Just based on how she is, it's only a matter of time before she fuks herself.Look at the people that were there. Someone’s going to be pissed. Hr hates trouble makers.
Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
It only matters in the context of avoidance. I don't want to be anywhere near this person unless it's absolutely mandatory.Sometimes my genius is so significant it can’t be distinguished from telling the future.
It is absolutely bull**** you had to stress about it for a couple days, but it is over. I kind of want to say you probably could easily find out who did it, but it doesn’t matter. It 100% does not matter.
Now get back to work and start making someone else money.
It is absolutely bull**** you had to stress about it for a couple days, but it is over. I kind of want to say you probably could easily find out who did it, but it doesn’t matter. It 100% does not matter.
Now get back to work and start making someone else money.
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel⏩
Seems like where we're headed. Cogs gonna cog...I love how the lesson learned is to not act like a human being with your co-workers."Lesson learned, I'll just be a complete automaton speaking to these emotional co-workers."At least you didn't get fired.
Originally Posted By Fang2⏩
Message received. Better learn the lesson now or it will be worse later on.I hope you learned that co-workers are not your friends. They snitch on any situation
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07-14-2020, 09:54 AM
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OP, think about this....
One of these deviants thought it was just to report you to HR over a joke.
They fully understood what the consequences could be for you; in fact they hoped it would happen to you. They wanted to see your livelihood taken from you during a global pandemic - at a time when finding another job is tough.
They probably did this for their own entertainment. They would find it enjoyable to see you down on your knees, struggling.
You should never forget this.
You could turn the other cheek. When you find out who did it, distance yourself from them.
Or, you could get your justice and wait for them to slip up...
One of these deviants thought it was just to report you to HR over a joke.
They fully understood what the consequences could be for you; in fact they hoped it would happen to you. They wanted to see your livelihood taken from you during a global pandemic - at a time when finding another job is tough.
They probably did this for their own entertainment. They would find it enjoyable to see you down on your knees, struggling.
You should never forget this.
You could turn the other cheek. When you find out who did it, distance yourself from them.
Or, you could get your justice and wait for them to slip up...
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
You should be able to write a written rebuttal to the investigation and it becomes part of the case file. Ask about that and be VERY tactful in doing so.Do I have any recourse if the summary isn't as thorough as I think it should be? Can I legally dispute it?
I was literally just thinking the same thing.
I was literally just thinking the same thing.
Ask questions like the retention policy for the personnel files and the contents of them by item. There should be a policy if your company is worth a damn. If there is a policy then make absolute certain they abide by it. Mark it on your calendar if it is supposed to be removed from your file in a year etc. Ask to review it then and have it removed if still present. Learn the rules and enforce them for your own advocacy.
Also keep in mind how many cops go through this and if you see them getting any **** about their records, stand up. Herp derp, why do police unions advocate for not releasing certain records. I'm all for sustained items but the stain on your record for unsubstantiated claims is horrific.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
Fuk yeah, glad you didn't get into trouble.Update:
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
True true, but also....I'm pretty sure I know who it is, and I hope she does continue to dig her own grave. Just based on how she is, it's only a matter of time before she fuks herself.
It only matters in the context of avoidance. I don't want to be anywhere near this person unless it's absolutely mandatory.
It only matters in the context of avoidance. I don't want to be anywhere near this person unless it's absolutely mandatory.
Get a voice recorder and record everything. Now it might take a while, but when that bitch slips, destroy her whole everything.
I started carrying a digital voice recorder on me a long time ago. For self protection, not to get anyone else. I don’t care what anyone else says or does. It has come in handy a few times.
I don’t trust people man. I’m paranoid as ****. It helps to be that way sometimes though.
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I remember when i first started working in my field my supervisor and coworker got into a fight and it was completely fine the next day
Luckily im in a field where its 90% male dominated and the few females dont give a fuk and bullchit with you
Luckily im in a field where its 90% male dominated and the few females dont give a fuk and bullchit with you
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Lolz I was in HR at my last hospital like 7 times for various incidents. I just don’t know when to keep my my mouth shut sometimes. The head of HR knew me by name in a faciiity with 500+++ people. Most of it was bull**** like some manager telling me I was racist for having a convo with my friend from Ecuador in which I asked if it was safe for a gringo to travel there. I shut them up pretty fast.
This type of **** is one of the reasons I’m starting my own company in 2 years.
This type of **** is one of the reasons I’m starting my own company in 2 years.
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel⏩
watI love how the lesson learned is to not act like a human being with your co-workers."Lesson learned, I'll just be a complete automaton speaking to these emotional co-workers."At least you didn't get fired.
So just to recap:
- OP makes a fat joke about a random fat celeb
- someone gets pissed about it, but instead of acting like an adult and telling OP that "hey man, this bothers me", the person goes straight to HR with the intent to mess up, possibly end OP's employment/career
- and somehow OP is the bad guy because he's takeaway from the outcome is to avoid the person instead of fraternizing with them
What do you want him to do, make a diorama/TED talk on how he was a terrible person for cracking a joke and bake a round of macarons for his co-workers?
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
I worked in a used car dealership for a year where it was all men. The two top salesman kept getting into serious arguments and the manager brought 2 pairs of boxing gloves and had them settle their differences behind the building after closing one day and brought a case of beer for everyone to drink while we watched. That was a fun workplaceI remember when i first started working in my field my supervisor and coworker got into a fight and it was completely fine the next day
Luckily im in a field where its 90% male dominated and the few females dont give a fuk and bullchit with you
Luckily im in a field where its 90% male dominated and the few females dont give a fuk and bullchit with you
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
this, OP. HR is trained in telling half-truths and being very misleading while telling you what you want to hearWhether or not they call it "in your file" there is certainly a document in HR's folders with everyones names on it and all their statements, your name on it too. The problem is they verbally told you youre in the clear but you have nothing in writing nor do you have a copy, redacted or not, of the report. What if their written report portrays you in a worse light than they led you to believe verbally?
I would atleast want something in writing that matches the " discrepancies in the stories, and determined that there was no malicious intent on my end" part that they told you verbally. You are going on their word while they have more information than they will give you.
It could be two years down the line and someone else makes some stupid complaint against you and now there are new HR people with a chip on their shoulder, dig up the old report and use it as part of a "trend" and the report they had on file portrayed you in a bad light and said something like you were "verbally counseled". Now all you can do is claim the HR weenies that are now gone verbally told you that you were cleared but you have zero proof.
I would atleast want something in writing that matches the " discrepancies in the stories, and determined that there was no malicious intent on my end" part that they told you verbally. You are going on their word while they have more information than they will give you.
It could be two years down the line and someone else makes some stupid complaint against you and now there are new HR people with a chip on their shoulder, dig up the old report and use it as part of a "trend" and the report they had on file portrayed you in a bad light and said something like you were "verbally counseled". Now all you can do is claim the HR weenies that are now gone verbally told you that you were cleared but you have zero proof.
a very close friend of mine got caught cheating in university, which obviously was obviously added to his file. he wanted to apply to post-grad studies and was worried about other universities finding out, so he asked student resources whether they would reveal this information to other universities. they said they wouldn't. a professor who was helping him with the application process told him to go back and ask them whether they would reveal the information to a university he is applying to IF the admissions committee asked for it, and they said yes
HR can be a bunch of slimy cockroaches. go back to them and ask them under which circumstances a hiring manager could have access to the incident on your file when assessing you as a candidate for a promotion, or under which circumstances HR could reveal the incident in your file to management. gotta be very specific.
it could be that your employer has a policy that states that allegations that are not fully corroborated cannot be used in determining an employee's fit for a certain job. however, it doesn't mean that they won't have access to that information.
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Originally Posted By FrankCostanza⏩
Tfw you wanna make a joke but don’t know which angle to go at so you don’t get in trouble. We’ve all had that feel. Steer clear of people who are easily offended.
Originally Posted By MattBro95⏩
That's the chit that pisses me off. Like why the fuk would you do that? It's not like she was angling for my job,so what...You just did it to hang your hat on the fact you got someone terminated for nothing? How much fuking evil can you get? I'm not forgetting this, and I hate to be that guy, but fuk it. If she fuks up I'll be there to pick up the pieces and she can put them together in the unemployment line.OP, think about this....
One of these deviants thought it was just to report you to HR over a joke.
They fully understood what the consequences could be for you; in fact they hoped it would happen to you. They wanted to see your livelihood taken from you during a global pandemic - at a time when finding another job is tough.
They probably did this for their own entertainment. They would find it enjoyable to see you down on your knees, struggling.
You should never forget this.
You could turn the other cheek. When you find out who did it, distance yourself from them.
Or, you could get your justice and wait for them to slip up...
One of these deviants thought it was just to report you to HR over a joke.
They fully understood what the consequences could be for you; in fact they hoped it would happen to you. They wanted to see your livelihood taken from you during a global pandemic - at a time when finding another job is tough.
They probably did this for their own entertainment. They would find it enjoyable to see you down on your knees, struggling.
You should never forget this.
You could turn the other cheek. When you find out who did it, distance yourself from them.
Or, you could get your justice and wait for them to slip up...
Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Thanks brah, I really appreciate your insight. I'm going to copypasta all this chit and use it against them.You should be able to write a written rebuttal to the investigation and it becomes part of the case file. Ask about that and be VERY tactful in doing so.
Ask questions like the retention policy for the personnel files and the contents of them by item. There should be a policy if your company is worth a damn. If there is a policy then make absolute certain they abide by it. Mark it on your calendar if it is supposed to be removed from your file in a year etc. Ask to review it then and have it removed if still present. Learn the rules and enforce them for your own advocacy.
Also keep in mind how many cops go through this and if you see them getting any **** about their records, stand up. Herp derp, why do police unions advocate for not releasing certain records. I'm all for sustained items but the stain on your record for unsubstantiated claims is horrific.
Ask questions like the retention policy for the personnel files and the contents of them by item. There should be a policy if your company is worth a damn. If there is a policy then make absolute certain they abide by it. Mark it on your calendar if it is supposed to be removed from your file in a year etc. Ask to review it then and have it removed if still present. Learn the rules and enforce them for your own advocacy.
Also keep in mind how many cops go through this and if you see them getting any **** about their records, stand up. Herp derp, why do police unions advocate for not releasing certain records. I'm all for sustained items but the stain on your record for unsubstantiated claims is horrific.
Originally Posted By Kay4Kool⏩
And we talk about tradie life. At least you *******s can take a joke.Tradie jobs looking better and better
Glad you dodged a bullet op
Glad you dodged a bullet op
Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
Thanks brah...I think I'm going to invest in one of those. Especially when I have no choice but to deal with some of the people in question.True true, but also....
Get a voice recorder and record everything. Now it might take a while, but when that bitch slips, destroy her whole everything.
I started carrying a digital voice recorder on me a long time ago. For self protection, not to get anyone else. I don’t care what anyone else says or does. It has come in handy a few times.
I don’t trust people man. I’m paranoid as ****. It helps to be that way sometimes though.
Get a voice recorder and record everything. Now it might take a while, but when that bitch slips, destroy her whole everything.
I started carrying a digital voice recorder on me a long time ago. For self protection, not to get anyone else. I don’t care what anyone else says or does. It has come in handy a few times.
I don’t trust people man. I’m paranoid as ****. It helps to be that way sometimes though.
Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
That's how it is where my wife works. It's all folks with military backgrounds and they're used to ribbing each other. The chit they say to each other would get you canned in a heartbeat anywhere else. Not them, they just laugh it off and go about their day.I remember when i first started working in my field my supervisor and coworker got into a fight and it was completely fine the next day
Luckily im in a field where its 90% male dominated and the few females dont give a fuk and bullchit with you
Luckily im in a field where its 90% male dominated and the few females dont give a fuk and bullchit with you
Originally Posted By Harry362⏩
None of this chit would happen if people minded their own damn business.Lolz I was in HR at my last hospital like 7 times for various incidents. I just don’t know when to keep my my mouth shut sometimes. The head of HR knew me by name in a faciiity with 500+++ people. Most of it was bull**** like some manager telling me I was racist for having a convo with my friend from Ecuador in which I asked if it was safe for a gringo to travel there. I shut them up pretty fast.
This type of **** is one of the reasons I’m starting my own company in 2 years.
This type of **** is one of the reasons I’m starting my own company in 2 years.
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Originally Posted By JT11RTR⏩
That's what I'm waiting for.Glad you didn't get any trouble over it. One of the people that stuck up for you will tell you eventually how it all went down.
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Glad you came out of this OK, really shows how fukked up clown world is.
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