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post 1611346251 07-22-2020, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By Strawng
You need to put in some mileage during roadwork if you wanna last in the ring bruh. I’ve done combat sports my whole life, & every trainer worth their salt will focus on endurance along with explosiveness. Check any fighter’s workout log also. They all put in mileage at least a couple days a week.

As an aside, I generally agree with you OP, but it’s absolutely not a rule. Also, to the bros saying lifting or running’s easier, you just don’t realize how they both equally suck in different ways. I hate running for 15 mins & then it’s a fuking breeze once that runners high kicks in. Lifting, the pain is way shorter but it’s also more extreme & the hnnng painkilling endorphin rush isn’t the same. Plus, lifting involves diet manipulation that’s probably one of the hardest things on the planet. I struggle with bulking, but many struggle with cutting and stay bloatmaxed.

I’ve also previously been a hardcore runner. I’m talking over 10 miles several days per week, & my whole mentality changed compared to when I focused more on lifting. I felt less angry/aggressive but more calm & patient. It did give me a dose of soy for better or worse. I was less angry & restless but not as concerned with being dominant.
I'd say success in combat sports, depending on what format (# of rounds, duration per round, etc), is more dependent on cardio conditioning than strength in MOST cases (not all, as explosive fighters with small gas tanks have found great success...). This is coming from direct personal experience.
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Originally Posted By iwant2beswole
I’ve been trail running (~8mi) because it’s super refreshing in a nice hilly forest and feels good. I can see people chasing endorphins from long distance running but fuk doing that on the street. Think I need to make the switch to mountain biking though.
Beware of a long learning curve for mountain biking, but it gets fun AF over time.
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Originally Posted By HOTD
I've noticed that people who really enjoy cardio (jogging, etc) tend to be people who are a bit masochistic and enjoy hurting themselves.

I've noticed that people who really enjoy lifting weights tend to be people who are naturally more aggressive (higher baseline testosterone levels?) and enjoy not hurting themselves, but hurting other things (such as taking their anger out under the barbell, treating the barbell like the enemy). People who lift weights are much more likely to be MMA fans than cardio people.

I've noticed people who lift weights are much more likely to have tattoos than people who do cardio (joggers, cyclists, etc).



In other words, cardio guys are soyboy cucks and lifters smash cardio boy's girl all night.
What about people who actually train a combat sport? Which requires both strength and cardio, not to mention flexibility and balance?

I have noticed that people who lift exclusively for their exercise tend to have tender, fragile little egos.
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The true redpill is that if you are serious about cardio and know what you're doing you'll become a Chad: Most attractive mindset and most attractive body. Show me just one guy who are serious about weights (any dicipline) who's not a degenerate.
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Originally Posted By TrickHenry
The true redpill is that if you are serious about cardio and know what you're doing you'll become a Chad: Most attractive mindset and most attractive body. Show me just one guy who are serious about weights (any dicipline) who's not a degenerate.
What do you consider to be a degenerate?
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Originally Posted By shesprints
What about people who actually train a combat sport? Which requires both strength and cardio, not to mention flexibility and balance?

I have noticed that people who lift exclusively for their exercise tend to have tender, fragile little egos.
Yes, combat sports require a good balance. I no longer participate in them seriously; but I definitely still try to keep the conditioning and skill work up to par!
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Bodybuilding is not a sport lmao.

Neither is car racing.
Bodybuilding is an art
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
Bodybuilding is an art
Agreed!
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Bodybuilding is not a sport lmao.

Neither is car racing.
Bodybuilding definitely a sport. A sport is any competitive activity that requires physical exertion as its main focus. That's why competitive eating is a sport.
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Originally Posted By George2100
Agreed!
Das it maneI don't understand why it not being a "sport" would cheapen it when it's more akin to art. It's a maximization of the human potential created through attrition, training and diet.

It's a display of humanity at what, in some lines of thinking, is it's finest.

You are competing against others, but solely by virtue of aesthetic. It is as though several judges are deciding whether or not you have sculpted a sculpture to their taste, or by their taste, how close you have come to what they believe is perfection of aesthetic. The difference is such that you are the sculpture, and you are the performer at the same time. The artist and the art all at once.

It's an art form in it's purest sense.
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
Das it maneI don't understand why it not being a "sport" would cheapen it when it's more akin to art. It's a maximization of the human potential created through attrition, training and diet.

It's a display of humanity at what, in some lines of thinking, is it's finest.

You are competing against others, but solely by virtue of aesthetic. It is as though several judges are deciding whether or not you have sculpted a sculpture to their taste, or by their taste, how close you have come to what they believe is perfection of aesthetic. The difference is such that you are the sculpture, and you are the performer at the same time. The artist and the art all at once.

It's an art form.
Well said brother! I have to say, you are one of the most articulate individuals on here.

I have been involved in both art and sports my whole life. When it comes to art, I enjoy sketching, painting, and sculpting (bodybuilding is a subcategory). For sports, I always loved combat sports. Due to injuries, I put boxing on hold. Due to the nature of my previous job, I put art on hold. What I discovered is that physical exercise alone was not enough to feel truly grounded. Bodybuilding helps me combine art and sport into one outlet. I now use bodybuilding to not only exercise my body, but also exercise my creative mind!
The inner peace and satisfaction gained from this has made me a more well-rounded and positive individual.
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Originally Posted By HOTD
I've noticed that people who really enjoy cardio (jogging, etc) tend to be people who are a bit masochistic and enjoy hurting themselves.

I've noticed that people who really enjoy lifting weights tend to be people who are naturally more aggressive (higher baseline testosterone levels?) and enjoy not hurting themselves, but hurting other things (such as taking their anger out under the barbell, treating the barbell like the enemy). People who lift weights are much more likely to be MMA fans than cardio people.

I've noticed people who lift weights are much more likely to have tattoos than people who do cardio (joggers, cyclists, etc).



In other words, cardio guys are soyboy cucks and lifters smash cardio boy's girl all night.
This is off the topic of the thread, but I read an article that said if you lift while you’re angry, you put yourself at risk of a heart attack.
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Originally Posted By Ace
This is off the topic of the thread, but I read an article that said if you lift while you’re angry, you put yourself at risk of a heart attack.
Being angry spikes your blood pressure, so that makes sense. Lifting (or any exercise for that matter) spikes your blood pressure even further. A lot of people die DURING exercise.

Exercise in of itself is extremely damaging for your body while you're doing it (oxidative damage, cortisol spike, etc). The health benefits of exercise come after recovery as your body rebuilds itself to be stronger.
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Originally Posted By GODself
Ive being an athelete all my life in multiple sports and I'm gonna tell you, bodybuilding is probably the hardest one.
Bodybuilding the hardest "sport" ???


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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Bodybuilding is not a sport lmao.

Neither is car racing.
Good to know you decide this type of stuff.

Next time I have any doubt I'm going to ask you.
Originally Posted By kingmanaverage
Bodybuilding the hardest "sport" ???














I didn't say that. I said it is the hardest I tried. (If you wanna get good)


And ive tried a lot. I mean... A LOT. More than 20 probably...

Soccer, handball, basketball, volleyball, rugby, swimming, surf, skate, rowing, tennis, ping pong (yah, just lol), badminton, karate, gymnastics, ... (holy ****... even I didn't know ive tried so many). Competed in soccer, swimming and karate. And when I said that Ive tried I mean 20+ sessions/classes at teams/groups and not just one time/with friends...

Weighlifting is the base of all sports.



P.S. never tried football, maybe thats the pinnacle of athleticism
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Originally Posted By TrickHenry
The true redpill is that if you are serious about cardio and know what you're doing you'll become a Chad: Most attractive mindset and most attractive body. Show me just one guy who are serious about weights (any dicipline) who's not a degenerate.
Depends on the cardio. The guys I know who are into Iron Man type shnit generally are intense, but dont have hot girlfriends. Those who are into marathon running are sickly and again look like dorks. Cant tell if they work out or play world of warcraft all day by looking at them. Not a Chad as guys dont respect them and women dont want them - but will say runner girls are pretty great. If you're a power lifter you are likely dating a whale and will spawn little seals


The best look is the athletic one. Guy who lifts weights regularly but isnt hitting the juice hard, still does cardio so pretty lean. Aka 'the swimmers body'
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Originally Posted By George2100
Well said brother! I have to say, you are one of the most articulate individuals on here.

I have been involved in both art and sports my whole life. When it comes to art, I enjoy sketching, painting, and sculpting (bodybuilding is a subcategory). For sports, I always loved combat sports. Due to injuries, I put boxing on hold. Due to the nature of my previous job, I put art on hold. What I discovered is that physical exercise alone was not enough to feel truly grounded. Bodybuilding helps me combine art and sport into one outlet. I now use bodybuilding to not only exercise my body, but also exercise my creative mind!
The inner peace and satisfaction gained from this has made me a more well-rounded and positive individual.
That's far too kind brotherI'm a bit too wordy for my own good tbh

Combat sports are definitely up there among my favorite too, but I think, and maybe this is just me voicing into the aether but... Doesn't the nature of Boxing itself almost feel like an art, in a way? I mean, think about it, it's art in that it's a display of the technique two individuals have brought to the table. It's art in that, a war of attrition is unfolding in front of your eyes. It's art in that it is controlled destruction of the human body via a limited means, that prevents one from doing specific things that would be helpful in their quest to break down their opponent. I suppose, all fighting is an art, in a way!But maybe sitting in on an art exhibition that turned out to be two boxers standing in the ring brutalizing each other was what opened my eyes.

I think the mental portion of bodybuilding is absolutely part of the art as well! You're a process. You start the process. You become the process. You are the actions that you are taking. You are the beginning and the end! You find a slate and slowly chisel it down... Pushing past what is considered "ripped" into sub 8% levels, only to be held for such a short time... Only to be viewed for a few moments on the stage. Only to be seen by a select few.

It's exclusive in that way.
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
That's far too kind brotherI'm a bit too wordy for my own good tbh

Combat sports are definitely up there among my favorite too, but I think, and maybe this is just me voicing into the aether but... Doesn't the nature of Boxing itself almost feel like an art, in a way? I mean, think about it, it's art in that it's a display of the technique two individuals have brought to the table. It's art in that, a war of attrition is unfolding in front of your eyes. It's art in that it is controlled destruction of the human body via a limited means, that prevents one from doing specific things that would be helpful in their quest to break down their opponent. I suppose, all fighting is an art, in a way!But maybe sitting in on an art exhibition that turned out to be two boxers standing in the ring brutalizing each other was what opened my eyes.

I think the mental portion of bodybuilding is absolutely part of the art as well! You're a process. You start the process. You become the process. You are the actions that you are taking. You are the beginning and the end! You find a slate and slowly chisel it down... Pushing past what is considered "ripped" into sub 8% levels, only to be held for such a short time... Only to be viewed for a few moments on the stage. Only to be seen by a select few.

It's exclusive in that way.
Combat sports are certainly an art form (martial arts).

Well said once again!
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I like both
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
No homo right
all the homo.




not srs.
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Yea but why not both. Give zero fuks about your 10% bf if you can't even finish running a mile.
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I lift weights because I enjoy the act itself and the process of getting stronger.

I do enough cardio to not die when sexxxing the ol lady, walking up several flights of stairs, working a physical job, etc...
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Originally Posted By lolhey
Yea but why not both. Give zero fuks about your 10% bf if you can't even finish running a mile.
Who the fuk can't run a mile? You need to be fat af...
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Originally Posted By George2100
Combat sports are certainly an art form (martial arts).

Well said once again!
And boxing is sometimes called the "sweet science."

If you guys haven't readA Fighter's Heart, you should!
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Originally Posted By shesprints
And boxing is sometimes called the "sweet science."

If you guys haven't readA Fighter's Heart, you should!
Thank you for the recommendation!

On spread with you
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No need to denounce what others love.

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