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post 1615261501 09-01-2020, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted By KAPAT⏩
I really dont know where this "cheaper to eat at mcdonalds" BS comes from that tries to justify lower income individuals being fat as phuck.

It is DIRT CHEAP to get chicken breast, rice, and veggies like broccoli/spinach (and even cheaper if you go the frozen route for chicken/veggies). I eat out a couple times a week and that **** adds up to be more than groceries.

Fat people are not fat because they're poor. They're fat because they eat a lot and move too little, they're lazy, and they have no discipline.
As someone who has always been kind of overweight, and is getting back into shape now, people get fat because food is a cheap and accessible form of entertainment. Poor people tend to have stressful lives, and they turn to high calorie delicious items to cope. A lot of times, that slice of pizza is the only real joy these people receive, even if it's only for a fleeting moment.
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I don’t care about people killing them selves with vices, they should be allowed to do so. My gripe is having to pay higher insurance premiums Or being affected in any other financial way due to their lack of self control.
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do you not care about my FEELINGS

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post 1615261781 09-01-2020, 09:51 AM
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Because fat lazy slobs have made themselves a protected class.
post 1615262051 09-01-2020, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
Fat people are often uneducated and don't know how to cook or eat healthily.
The poors have access to the fukking internet same as everyone else. In this day and age (barring a few EXTREME circumstances) it is entirely, 100% your fukking fault if you choose to remain completely ignorant on subjects as important as your health and finances.
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post 1615262271 09-01-2020, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted By LtGoose⏩
Obesity rates are higher among communities with lower household income levels.

It's harder for lower income individuals to afford higher quality "healthy" food.

If we tackled the problem then Democrats would lose their base and they can't have that. Keep enjoying that low cost soy and stop asking questions.
I just bought 6 lbs of chicken for $12.
Too expensive my ass.
post 1615262401 09-01-2020, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By SmillironS⏩
I don’t care about people killing them selves with vices, they should be allowed to do so. My gripe is having to pay higher insurance premiums Or being affected in any other financial way due to their lack of self control.
Or being locked down and having businesses go under because of their lack of control.
post 1615262531 09-01-2020, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Skezo⏩
I just bought 6 lbs of chicken for $12.
Too expensive my ass.
Where'd you get that deal at? 3.99/lb is typical at my grocery stores in the area. I mean that's still only $24+tax but I dont know that I trust $1.99/lb chicken
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post 1615263001 09-01-2020, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe⏩
Where'd you get that deal at? 3.99/lb is typical at my grocery stores in the area. I mean that's still only $24+tax but I dont know that I trust $1.99/lb chicken
I can get chicken .99 a pound, 2.00 a pound is nothing special.
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post 1615263721 09-01-2020, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe⏩
Where'd you get that deal at? 3.99/lb is typical at my grocery stores in the area. I mean that's still only $24+tax but I dont know that I trust $1.99/lb chicken
Boneless/skinless chicken breasts/thighs are $1.99-2.50/lb year round from Kroger or HEB in Texas. Well, Houston area at least.
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post 1615264091 09-01-2020, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted By johnvee73⏩
I can get chicken .99 a pound, 2.00 a pound is nothing special.
How? That's McDonald's food pricing. You buying grounded up remains brah?
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post 1615264191 09-01-2020, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Kawhilights⏩
How? That's McDonald's food pricing. You buying grounded up remains brah?
at a store not far from where I live, miscut chicken will be .99 a pound.

I'm sure mcdonalds spends less than .99 a pound on chicken.
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I'm not sure what we did for cigarettes worked.

I wonder how many young people vape now compared to smoking in the 1950s-2000?

And any psychologist will tell you that people don't just quit an addiction. Once your brain is addicted, your only choice is to replace the addiction with something else, hopefully positive. So even if millions of people quit smoking/vaping nicotine, they'll never get more than a few weeks/months of "white-knuckling" it unless they find something else.

Most people turn to food srs.

So how do we kick the can down the road and get fat people to switch their addiction? Well it will be pharmaceuticals, no doubt.

And what about when the pharmaceutical gives them cancer? Now they're off the meds, getting fat again, and they have cancer.

This scenario is only valid considering you compared food addiction to nicotine addiction.

If you think getting fat is truly a result of addiction (or at least in part), you have to deal with the addiction part of it.

For those who think it's simply that fat people are scum who need to be shamed into compliance, then carry on.
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine⏩
The poors have access to the fukking internet same as everyone else. In this day and age (barring a few EXTREME circumstances) it is entirely, 100% your fukking fault if you choose to remain completely ignorant on subjects as important as your health and finances.
They sure as hell know how to use twitter...
post 1615265081 09-01-2020, 10:26 AM
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Fat acceptance movement is strong in YouTube community and Instagram. There was this famous plus size model (Tess Holliday) who had to tell her followers that she wasn't exercising to lose weight, and not to worry about her trying to lose weight. It's like if you try to lose weight, you get shunned and lose your followers and respect from your peers.
post 1615265301 09-01-2020, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
I'm not sure what we did for cigarettes worked.

I wonder how many young people vape now compared to smoking in the 1950s-2000?

And any psychologist will tell you that people don't just quit an addiction. Once your brain is addicted, your only choice is to replace the addiction with something else, hopefully positive. So even if millions of people quit smoking/vaping nicotine, they'll never get more than a few weeks/months of "white-knuckling" it unless they find something else.

Most people turn to food srs.

So how do we kick the can down the road and get fat people to switch their addiction? Well it will be pharmaceuticals, no doubt.

And what about when the pharmaceutical gives them cancer? Now they're off the meds, getting fat again, and they have cancer.

This scenario is only valid considering you compared food addiction to nicotine addiction.

If you think getting fat is truly a result of addiction (or at least in part), you have to deal with the addiction part of it.

For those who think it's simply that fat people are scum who need to be shamed into compliance, then carry on.
Great points and 1 other variable which a pro bodybuilder reminded me recently.
Before Kevin Levrone made his come back at 52, he mentioned getting checked out by a doctor and making sure your blood work is right, before doing any fitness program.
Deficiencies in nutrients will change how the body performs with any new diet or exercise program.
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Fat tax. If you're fat you have to pay a premium tax, if you're not fat you don't have to pay the tax and get rewarded with some of the fat people's money. I seriously think this needs to be implemented, because stopping being fat is a lot harder than quitting cigarettes. Especially for these people who weight are over 40% body fat
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
The entire country went after smoking hard as fuk. What used to be cool and sexy was now a terrible vice that kills you and is toxic to those around you.

Can't we do some truth ads on obesity? Back when we shamed people for things, weren't we a healthier society? Can oldcels confirm?
Create a petition I’m sure there’s many Americans that share your opinion then present it to Truth or some other entity
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There's a very extensive Kaiser study about the correlation between childhood trauma and whatever bad things happen to us as a result. It was initially made because they wanted to know why people are fat. So if someone being fat is related to trauma, then how would shaming help?
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the average normal person greatly underestimates just how much chit the average fatty is eating

it's not some corn syrup in their bread that's sneaking up on them

they are eating massive quantities of the highest caloric density chit possible

and then they're hiding that chit eating as well as they can from everyone around them out of shame
Originally Posted By Cass40⏩
There's a very extensive Kaiser study about the correlation between childhood trauma and whatever bad things happen to us as a result. It was initially made because they wanted to know why people are fat. So if someone being fat is related to trauma, then how would shaming help?
same way the misc has shamed you into being less slooty, even though it may have been the result of childhood trauma
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
same way the misc has shamed you into being less slooty, even though it may have been the result of childhood trauma
I don't have time to be non slooty. I'll be ded soon.
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Pfft, like the laws of thermodynamics apply to humans.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Great points and 1 other variable which a pro bodybuilder reminded me recently.
Before Kevin Levrone made his come back at 52, he mentioned getting checked out by a doctor and making sure your blood work is right, before doing any fitness program.
Deficiencies in nutrients will change how the body performs with any new diet or exercise program.
Kevin Levrone was also loaded up on Cell Tech at a very high level for 30 years. Getting your bloodwork checked time start exercising for the average person is unnecessary.
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Originally Posted By Cass40⏩
Fat acceptance movement is strong in YouTube community and Instagram. There was this famous plus size model (Tess Holliday)who had to tell her followers that she wasn't exercising to lose weight, and not to worry about her trying to lose weight. It's like if you try to lose weight, you get shunned and lose your followers and respect from your peers.
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You can't effectively get rid of obesity without seriously changing capitalism. Excess and gluttony are promoted by capitalist dogma thus it's no surprise than the US is so fat. A fat consoomer is good for the economy unlike a frugal slender man.

Most of the food in th US is overprocessed garbage ridden with conr syrup and sugar with low quality natural ingredients
Capitalism promotes gluttony and excess
The pro capitalist health care industry is profiting HEAVILY from the obesity epidemic
The chit food and crap food lobbies have the us politicians in their pocket
The agricultural industry is a chit chow focused on heavy monocrop to be transformed into syrup or other bs instead of focusing on growing healthy varied produce.

So a leaner us would require massive changes in the economic system overall, the huge agro industry and the huge pharma industry so it's not gonna happen soon boyos
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
You can't effectively get rid of obesity without seriously changing capitalism. Excess and gluttony are promoted by capitalist dogma thus it's no surprise than the US is so fat. A fat consoomer is good for the economy unlike a frugal slender man.

Most of the food in th US is overprocessed garbage ridden with conr syrup and sugar with low quality natural ingredients
Capitalism promotes gluttony and excess
The pro capitalist health care industry is profiting HEAVILY from the obesity epidemic
The chit food and crap food lobbies have the us politicians in their pocket
The agricultural industry is a chit chow focused on heavy monocrop to be transformed into syrup or other bs instead of focusing on growing healthy varied produce.

So a leaner us would require massive changes in the economic system overall, the huge agro industry and the huge pharma industry so it's not gonna happen soon boyos
Yeah bro, let’s all switch to communism. That way there’s not enough food being produced so we’ll naturally be skinny due to starvation.

I mean, it worked out so well in Soviet Russia, Venezuela, Cuba where the shelves were bare and food had to be rationed out. That’s also discounting the mass famines that occurred in the Ukraine and China due to communist practices.
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Been saying to bring back fat shaming for ages.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
the average normal person greatly underestimates just how much chit the average fatty is eating

it's not some corn syrup in their bread that's sneaking up on them

they are eating massive quantities of the highest caloric density chit possible

and then they're hiding that chit eating as well as they can from everyone around them out of shame



same way the misc has shamed you into being less slooty, even though it may have been the result of childhood trauma
What options has the average american obese got when it comes to food?

for example here in latin america every poor or low income areas has something like this withing walking distance of pretty much everywhere in the cities:



Fresh organic produce straight from the farmers, the kind of chit that is a luxury at trader joes or whole foods is the cheapest kind of food you can buy here. Organic varied vegetables with local varieties of produce that you won't find in any supermarket outside the area you're shopping.

Now compare it to a "poor" area in the US



Only fast food joints and seven elevens and the like, no wonder people will be fat when they've got no access to healthy food, the onlu junk they can shop in their area is literally junk. No wonder they're going to be obese. The problem runs deep as in the US the agro industry has focused on cash mono crops to sell to the industry instead of small scale varied farming like in latin america, with the subsidies and the market the way it is it makes no sense to a farmer to grow fresh produce when they can just grow tons of corn to sell to a processing plant.
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