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Originally Posted By rgnx⏩
its hard to tell with plot shielding and such, but i dont think maeve could restrain noir if he was as strong as homelanderStrong assumption lol
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Doesn't the androgynous looking girl from episode 6 have headpopping abilities? She was picked up by someone at the end who could've coerced her to do the deed.
10-02-2020, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted By rgnx⏩
You comic guys love to spoil chit!The comics?
But yeah, the show could be different, but even still, not much has been explained about Black Noir on the show yet.
Yeah, hopefully you haven't spoiled anything, but based on the show...Maeve seems like she's stronger than Black Noir - she wrestled him off Starlight and put the almond in his mouth with ease. She wasn't even challenged by him.
Maeve is scared of Homelander.
Originally Posted By rikugunchusa⏩
Exactly.its hard to tell with plot shielding and such, but i dont think maeve could restrain noir if he was as strong as homelander
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10-02-2020, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Homelander def stronger than Maeve. Maeve won because she is on the stronger side of supes and surprised Black BUT more importantly she knew Black's allergy weakness. Without knowing that weakness, Black would've been up in a minute and kill Maeve, imo.You comic guys love to spoil chit!
Yeah, hopefully you haven't spoiled anything, but based on the show...
Maeve seems like she's stronger than Black Noir - she wrestled him off Starlight and put the almond in his mouth with ease. She wasn't even challenged by him.
Maeve is scared of Homelander.
Yeah, hopefully you haven't spoiled anything, but based on the show...
Maeve seems like she's stronger than Black Noir - she wrestled him off Starlight and put the almond in his mouth with ease. She wasn't even challenged by him.
Maeve is scared of Homelander.
10-02-2020, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I didn't say he can't kill Starlight brah I said his laser may not be effective in combat unless he holds her down and fires a continuous beam at her. But then she could use her powers to blind him and **** up his eyes. I'd say he'd most likely do a Noir and give her a physical beat down. Maybe use his flight to slam her into things.Why would that make you think that he can't kill Starlight, because Stormf0nt could withstand it?
Stormfr0nt doesn't age, which is an indication that her power is on a different level to Starlight. Also, Black Noir is stronger than Starlight, he was on the verge of killing Starlight until Maeve showed up. Homelander is stronger than Black Noir.
Stormfr0nt doesn't age, which is an indication that her power is on a different level to Starlight. Also, Black Noir is stronger than Starlight, he was on the verge of killing Starlight until Maeve showed up. Homelander is stronger than Black Noir.
Storm took the laser for a long time and she was just chilling out, so I doubt he can easily one-shot Starlight with it. Storm is clearly shown to be more powerful than Starlight currently but Storm is lightning and Starlight is powered by electricity so maybe Storm's attacks won't be effective against her.
Noir took Starlight by surprise and he's obviously much better trained in close combat. And even so, she withstood a TON of damage into walls etc. That was brutal and all it managed to do was knock the wind out of her a bit. And it took alot out of Noir because Maeve was easily able to subdue him after in the headlock. If we're going on pure potential, Starlight seems top tier and certainly stronger than Noir. She's just a noob who is hesitant to hurt people.
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10-02-2020, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted By stevemckenna⏩
The CIA deputies head was popped before we met her.Doesn't the androgynous looking girl from episode 6 have headpopping abilities? She was picked up by someone at the end who could've coerced her to do the deed.
Like someone else said, hard to imagine that she was chosen by Vought to pop the CIA director's head. Locked up, and went psychotic. Then recruited after she escaped to pop heads, to help the very company that imprisoned her.
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10-02-2020, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted By rgnx⏩
Disagree. He was tired from fighting Starlight. Maeve had him in that headlock, he was done. In a pure 1v1 I think it's Starlight(unlocked potential) > Maeve > Noir. I think Noir is around the level of Kimiko. But just with much better training.Homelander def stronger than Maeve. Maeve won because she is on the stronger side of supes and surprised Black BUT more importantly she knew Black's allergy weakness. Without knowing that weakness, Black would've been up in a minute and kill Maeve, imo.
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10-02-2020, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
Dude, Storm would chit on Starlight effortlessly.... Storm is top tier supe, Starlight is mid tier,I didn't say he can't kill Starlight brah I said his laser may not be effective in combat unless he holds her down and fires a continuous beam at her. But then she could use her powers to blind him and **** up his eyes. I'd say he'd most likely do a Noir and give her a physical beat down. Maybe use his flight to slam her into things.
Storm took the laser for a long time and she was just chilling out, so I doubt he can easily one-shot Starlight with it. Storm is clearly shown to be more powerful than Starlight currently but Storm is lightning and Starlight is powered by electricity so maybe Storm's attacks won't be effective against her.
Noir took Starlight by surprise and he's obviously much better trained in close combat. And even so, she withstood a TON of damage into walls etc. That was brutal and all it managed to do was knock the wind out of her a bit. And it took alot out of Noir because Maeve was easily able to subdue him after in the headlock. If we're going on pure potential, Starlight seems top tier and certainly stronger than Noir. She's just a noob who is hesitant to hurt people.
Storm took the laser for a long time and she was just chilling out, so I doubt he can easily one-shot Starlight with it. Storm is clearly shown to be more powerful than Starlight currently but Storm is lightning and Starlight is powered by electricity so maybe Storm's attacks won't be effective against her.
Noir took Starlight by surprise and he's obviously much better trained in close combat. And even so, she withstood a TON of damage into walls etc. That was brutal and all it managed to do was knock the wind out of her a bit. And it took alot out of Noir because Maeve was easily able to subdue him after in the headlock. If we're going on pure potential, Starlight seems top tier and certainly stronger than Noir. She's just a noob who is hesitant to hurt people.
10-02-2020, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
no way Black was done from that headlock, even if Maeve choked him "to death", Black has been shown in the show to have insane regenerative ability.Disagree. He was tired from fighting Starlight. Maeve had him in that headlock, he was done. In a pure 1v1 I think it's Starlight(unlocked potential) > Maeve > Noir. I think Noir is around the level of Kimiko. But just with much better training.
and no, you are super confused about these power tiers.
Kimiko is literally low tier supe. She would lose to A-train even in the show...
10-02-2020, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Oh yeah, you're right. Totally forgot about the CIA chick.The CIA deputies head was popped before we met her.
Like someone else said, hard to imagine that she was chosen by Vought to pop the CIA director's head. Locked up, and went psychotic. Then recruited after she escaped to pop heads, to help the very company that imprisoned her.
Like someone else said, hard to imagine that she was chosen by Vought to pop the CIA director's head. Locked up, and went psychotic. Then recruited after she escaped to pop heads, to help the very company that imprisoned her.
10-02-2020, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted By rgnx⏩
Can we explain what scenes from the show tell us this? I'm not referring to the comics here.Dude, Storm would chit on Starlight effortlessly.... Storm is top tier supe, Starlight is mid tier,
Doesn't Starlight conduct electricity? Doesn't Storm use electric attacks? How does Storm fight her? I feel like from the impression I get from THE SHOW.....Starlight could have been really powerful if she was an azzhole with the kind of training Storm had.
She can't fight, she's a big wuss and so far she managed to take a huge surprise beat down from Noir. She didn't even use her power during that because she was probably on fight or flight mode. If she was well trained she would have fukked Noir up imo.
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10-02-2020, 02:32 PM
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Someone on another thread was telling me this show mainly makes fun of leftists sjw's and wasn't sjw itself. After watching this past episode, I disagree even more.
-Like I said before.... homelander represents nationalism. ********** represents racism. They are in bed together.
-That first scene with the neckbeard becoming radicalized after hearing "make america safe again", stopping immigration, ********** calling people "snowflakes".
-"thoughts and prayers"
It was literally like a leftist redditors wet dream. The whole show has stuff like this. "frenchie" who isn't french at all lmao.
I feel like every big show is like this now.
-Like I said before.... homelander represents nationalism. ********** represents racism. They are in bed together.
-That first scene with the neckbeard becoming radicalized after hearing "make america safe again", stopping immigration, ********** calling people "snowflakes".
-"thoughts and prayers"
It was literally like a leftist redditors wet dream. The whole show has stuff like this. "frenchie" who isn't french at all lmao.
I feel like every big show is like this now.
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10-02-2020, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
My mistake.I didn't say he can't kill Starlight brah I said his laser may not be effective in combat unless he holds her down and fires a continuous beam at her.
Storm is clearly shown to be more powerful than Starlight currently but Storm is lightning and Starlight is powered by electricity so maybe Storm's attacks won't be effective against her.
Interesting. Starlight may be able to actually take Storm's attack and use the electricity against her.Noir took Starlight by surprise and he's obviously much better trained in close combat. And even so, she withstood a TON of damage into walls etc. That was brutal and all it managed to do was knock the wind out of her a bit. And it took alot out of Noir because Maeve was easily able to subdue him after in the headlock. If we're going on pure potential, Starlight seems top tier and certainly stronger than Noir. She's just a noob who is hesitant to hurt people.
IMO the scene showed a clear hierarchy of power.Maeve was strong enough to do that feat the Startlight admired her for in the first Season. (The one where she broke all the bones in her arm stopping a schoolbus from diving off of bridge.) We haven't seen or heard about Noir displaying that level of strength.
We haven't seen Noir display anything close to what Maeve and Homelander can do strength and durability wise like in this scene...
Though we have seen him withstand flames, we haven't seen him stand in front of a truck and it to wrap around him, and then him walk away without scratch, like in that second vid.
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10-02-2020, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By rgnx⏩
Nah I don't know about the comics but in the show, Noir is weak.no way Black was done from that headlock, even if Maeve choked him "to death", Black has been shown in the show to have insane regenerative ability.
and no, you are super confused about these power tiers.
Kimiko is literally low tier supe. She would lose to A-train even in the show...
and no, you are super confused about these power tiers.
Kimiko is literally low tier supe. She would lose to A-train even in the show...
Kimiko could have killed him if she was trained. Knives pierce his flesh and can cause damage.
Meanwhile, Starlight can take a close range 50 cal shot to the chest and brush it off. Not in a million years is Noir more powerful than Starlight. His training makes up for his lack of power imo.
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10-02-2020, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Yep, Maeve is easily stronger than Noir in the show. I never even thought that was in question.My mistake.
Interesting. Starlight may be able to actually take Storm's attack and use the electricity against her.
IMO the scene showed a clear hierarchy of power.
Maeve was strong enough to do that feat the Startlight admired her for in the first Season. (The one where she broke all the bones in her arm stopping a schoolbus from diving off of bridge.) We haven't seen or heard about Noir displaying that level of strength.
We haven't seen Noir display anything close to what Maeve and Homelander can do strength and durability wise like in this scene...
Though we have seen him withstand flames, we haven't seen him stand in front of a truck and it to wrap around him, and then him walk away without scratch, like in that second vid.
Interesting. Starlight may be able to actually take Storm's attack and use the electricity against her.
IMO the scene showed a clear hierarchy of power.
Maeve was strong enough to do that feat the Startlight admired her for in the first Season. (The one where she broke all the bones in her arm stopping a schoolbus from diving off of bridge.) We haven't seen or heard about Noir displaying that level of strength.
We haven't seen Noir display anything close to what Maeve and Homelander can do strength and durability wise like in this scene...
Though we have seen him withstand flames, we haven't seen him stand in front of a truck and it to wrap around him, and then him walk away without scratch, like in that second vid.
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10-02-2020, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
I can see why you think that. But even from the show, I think it's been shown that Noir is like the "loyal, dependent" supe for Vought boss. Not like Homelander. It would make sense for Vought to have a back up plan incase Homelander went rouge, no?Nah I don't know about the comics but in the show, Noir is weak.
Kimiko could have killed him if she was trained. Knives pierce his flesh and can cause damage.
Meanwhile, Starlight can take a close range 50 cal shot to the chest and brush it off. Not in a million years is Noir more powerful than Starlight. His training makes up for his lack of strength imo.
Kimiko could have killed him if she was trained. Knives pierce his flesh and can cause damage.
Meanwhile, Starlight can take a close range 50 cal shot to the chest and brush it off. Not in a million years is Noir more powerful than Starlight. His training makes up for his lack of strength imo.
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Originally Posted By Coal
The point was if Maeve can beat Noir, and Noir can beat Starlight, then Homelander would cripple Starlight, and there is a good reason why Starlight is terrified of Homelander.Yep, Maeve is easily stronger than Noir in the show. I never even thought that was in question.
I can see from your other posts though that you believe that Starlight has not realized her potential.
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10-02-2020, 02:42 PM
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10-02-2020, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Maeve snuck up behind Noir, put him in a chokehold, and used Noir's one known weakness against him.The point was if Maeve can beat Noir, and Noir can beat Starlight then Homelander would cripple Starlight.
I can see from your other posts though that you believe that Starlight has not realized her potential.
I can see from your other posts though that you believe that Starlight has not realized her potential.
Can't fairly say "Maeve can beat Noir" based off just that. There wasn't even 1 second of fair fighting involved..
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Originally Posted By Coal
Her blasts can blind people and throw them away, plus she's also more durable - she tanked a .50 cal in the chest from Butcher in S1 and Black Noir's beating this episode - and stronger - lifting the car in S1 - than an average human but that's it. Homelander was ready to simply stick his hand inside her guts without any difficulty.Can we explain what scenes from the show tell us this? I'm not referring to the comics here.
Doesn't Starlight conduct electricity? Doesn't Storm use electric attacks? How does Storm fight her? I feel like from the impression I get from THE SHOW.....Starlight could have been really powerful if she was an azzhole with the kind of training Storm had.
She can't fight, she's a big wuss and so far she managed to take a huge surprise beat down from Noir. She didn't even use her power during that because she was probably on fight or flight mode. If she was well trained she would have fukked Noir up imo.
Doesn't Starlight conduct electricity? Doesn't Storm use electric attacks? How does Storm fight her? I feel like from the impression I get from THE SHOW.....Starlight could have been really powerful if she was an azzhole with the kind of training Storm had.
She can't fight, she's a big wuss and so far she managed to take a huge surprise beat down from Noir. She didn't even use her power during that because she was probably on fight or flight mode. If she was well trained she would have fukked Noir up imo.
Meanwhile St0rmfront is strong enough to casually throw Homelander around and durable enough to tank his laser vision - something that not even HL expected as he warned her that he would just cut her in half. Plus her electric blasts can just fry peope. Also the regeneration.
It wouldn't make sense storywise anyway, St0rmfront received a perfected formula from hubby Vought and is apparently functionally immortal while Starlight is just a regular V baby all grown up.
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Originally Posted By rgnx⏩
Please read post #260, and watch the videos. It wasn't just based on that scene.Maeve snuck up behind Noir, put him in a chokehold, and used Noir's one known weakness against him.
Can't fairly say "Maeve can beat Noir" based off just that. There wasn't even 1 second of fair fighting involved..
Can't fairly say "Maeve can beat Noir" based off just that. There wasn't even 1 second of fair fighting involved..
We haven't seen or heard Noir in 2 seasons display the power and durability that Maeve has.
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10-02-2020, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted By rgnx⏩
Yeah they have a backup plan.It would make sense for Vought to have a back up plan incase Homelander went rouge, no?
100% he's not some weak defenseless man. I bet you he's either powerful as fuk, knows a secret weakness or knows some way to stop Homelander.
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10-02-2020, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Homelander is supposed to be the strongest Supe.The point was if Maeve can beat Noir, and Noir can beat Starlight then Homelander would cripple Starlight.
I can see from your other posts though that you believe that Starlight has not realized her potential.
I can see from your other posts though that you believe that Starlight has not realized her potential.
In the comics, even he has limits to his invulnerability.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Exactly, she was powerless and terrified.Her blasts can blind people and throw them away, plus she's also more durable - she tanked a .50 cal in the chest from Butcher in S1 and Black Noir's beating this episode - and stronger - lifting the car in S1 - than an average human but that's it.Homelander was ready to simply stick his hand inside her guts without any difficulty.
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10-02-2020, 02:51 PM
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I'm sure he isn't. But wouldn't you think his most trusted supe is also powerful as fuk.Yeah they have a backup plan.
100% he's not some weak defenseless man. I bet you he's either powerful as fuk, knows a secret weakness or knows some way to stop Homelander.
100% he's not some weak defenseless man. I bet you he's either powerful as fuk, knows a secret weakness or knows some way to stop Homelander.
True, hasn't been shown in the show yet, but very little has been.
10-02-2020, 02:52 PM
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10-02-2020, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Wait, is this the first time we're talking? A few posts back I could have sworn I said I never compared Starlight to Homelander, I was just referring to his laser... And u said oh okay you get it.The point was if Maeve can beat Noir, and Noir can beat Starlight, then Homelander would cripple Starlight, and there is a good reason why Starlight is terrified of Homelander.
I can see from your other posts though that you believe that Starlight has not realized her potential.
I can see from your other posts though that you believe that Starlight has not realized her potential.
Drop the Homelander Vs Starlight thing please I never said they were comparable lol.
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10-02-2020, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
Why does Homelander's laser even matter. That's his "wave clearer" for fodder.Wait, is this the first time we're talking? A few posts back I could have sworn I said I never compared Starlight to Homelander, I was just referring to his laser... And u said oh okay you get it.
Drop the Homelander Vs Starlight thing please I never said they were comparable lol.
Drop the Homelander Vs Starlight thing please I never said they were comparable lol.
Just like Superman's laser is powerful, it's really his strength that is his main weapon against actually powerful foes. Same with Storm.
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Originally Posted By Coal
I was only half-paying attention, tbh. Plus, I think that his laser would destroy Starlight.Wait, is this the first time we're talking? A few posts back I could have sworn I said I never compared Starlight to Homelander, I was just referring to his laser... And u said oh okay you get it.
Drop the Homelander Vs Starlight thing please I never said they were comparable lol.
Drop the Homelander Vs Starlight thing please I never said they were comparable lol.
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