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post 1626812153 12-28-2020, 10:19 AM
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post 1626812233 12-28-2020, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20
That's shoddy work and pisspoor methodology. Beyond that these media articles always pretend like the US doesn't have the naturally increasing 40,000 deaths every succeeding year that it does. So they're automatically padding in 80-120K deaths depending on how far back they go to compare as "normal." And by now there are likely 100K or more lockdown related deaths. Extra murders and overdose deaths alone are up more than 20,000 over last year.
It will be interesting to compare the causes once the data is available. I'll assume suicides are up as well.
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post 1626812393 12-28-2020, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
People are going to die no matter what. There is NOTHING you can do about it. There is no saying who is genetically predisposed to be taken by this virus. It's called evolution. It's called survival of the fittest. There is no beating it until we have heard immunity. Even then, people are going be dying from COVID 50 years from now.

This is just going to be another yearly flu. You realize the Spanish influenza is still around and still kills people 100 years later, right?
You limit the spread until you can vaccinate.

I did a comparison of similar climate areas, one with lockdowns and one with minimal lockdowns.

Alberta to North dakota.

The death rate was 8x higher in North dakota.

That means 6200 more albertans would have died in the past 9 months had we done the bare minimum.

With a vaccine literally on the way, does this even make sense?
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Originally Posted By P51
Actually there is something we can do about, we can limit interactions and limit the spread. Survival of the fittest? Suk a dick moron, you have never been to the hospital or taken medicine?
Riiiighht because that has worked so far. lol. More people have had it than has been reported and less people have died from it than has been reported.

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post 1626812533 12-28-2020, 10:22 AM
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Did anyone else wonder why Fauci waited for the Moderna vaccine instead of going with the Pfizer vaccine which has already been widely administered to health care workers (husband got it last week)?
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post 1626812673 12-28-2020, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20
That's shoddy work and pisspoor methodology. Beyond that these media articles always pretend like the US doesn't have the naturally increasing 40,000 deaths every succeeding year that it does. So they're automatically padding in 80-120K deaths depending on how far back they go to compare as "normal." And by now there are likely 100K or more lockdown related deaths. Extra murders and overdose deaths alone are up more than 20,000 over last year.
We did the actual numbers in the COVID-19 thread.
Expected deaths in 2020 should have been around 2.9m (2.84m in 2019).

When it all shakes out there will be between 3.15m and 3.2m all cause deaths in 2020.
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I’m still waiting for the thanksgiving surge lol
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Originally Posted By Frank
You limit the spread until you can vaccinate.

I did a comparison of similar climate areas, one with lockdowns and one with minimal lockdowns.

Alberta to North dakota.

The death rate was 8x higher in North dakota.

That means 6200 more albertans would have died in the past 9 months had we done the bare minimum.

With a vaccine literally on the way, does this even make sense?
Albertan here: we've had minimal lockdowns.

We're just a wee bit more careful with the treatments.

Not sure how demographically similar we are to ND, but Alberta skews young.
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just fukin lol at fauci. when has that old manlet ever been right about anythign
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post 1626812973 12-28-2020, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Frank
We did the actual numbers in the COVID-19 thread.
Expected deaths in 2020 should have been around 2.9m (2.84m in 2019).

When it all shakes out there will be between 3.15m and 3.2m all cause deaths in 2020.
there will be 50-100k more deaths in 3 days?
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Originally Posted By Goodguy03
just fukin lol at fauci. when has that old manlet ever been right about anythign
did you lose weight recently? you look thinner.
post 1626813303 12-28-2020, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By saltypits
Albertan here: we've had minimal lockdowns.

We're just a wee bit more careful with the treatments.

Not sure how demographically similar we are to ND, but Alberta skews young.
Exactly, we've done the bare minimum as far as lockdowns go, and it shows that they do help.

I think climate and population density are the biggest factors. It makes no sense to compare alberta to Florida or California.
post 1626813333 12-28-2020, 10:32 AM
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Americans are fked. None of you really take covid seriously. A lot of your lockdowns aren't even real lockdowns.
post 1626813443 12-28-2020, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted By EnforcerOTF
there will be 50-100k more deaths in 3 days?
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/C...nnq-a75p1xKE-I

Averaging well over 60,000 per week, 11% Excess (300k) for the year.
post 1626813493 12-28-2020, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted By kcadrenalin
You might as well send all your money to a Nigerian scammer because they are on the same level.
The WA state unemployment department would like to have a word.

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post 1626813553 12-28-2020, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
Your anecdote is meaningless. Young people have died from the flu as well. Turns out bad things happen during pandemics. Those 65+ working can take whatever precautions they see fit. They're free to wear masks and shields. They can also retire if their not up for the risk.
youre an idiot. Maybe you should have went to college instead of jerking off to Trump at night. People can't just retire you hillbilly.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
Did anyone else wonder why Fauci waited for the Moderna vaccine instead of going with the Pfizer vaccine which has already been widely administered to health care workers (husband got it last week)?
Because every other big name got Pfizer and he wanted to show confidence in both.
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post 1626813843 12-28-2020, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
Did anyone else wonder why Fauci waited for the Moderna vaccine instead of going with the Pfizer vaccine which has already been widely administered to health care workers (husband got it last week)?
The ones that big name clowns get are likely saline, anyway.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
You just answered it.

Social distancing doesn't work. Masks don't work. Only washing your hands, disinfecting surfaces, and not touching your face works.

This is a scamdemic.

You are mistaken if you think older people want to be locked down. My parents are in their 70's and they think this is ridiculous. They have been through multiple pandemics and they are pissed off America has gotten so soft. My dad said back in the day there would have been straight up revolt.
That's a very low IQ conclusion to arrive to. The reason people are wearing masks and social distancing and still dying is because a large portion of the population such as retards in this forum don't adhere to the precautions. This is why a country like South Korea has had a total of 57k covid cases and only 890 deaths while suffering minimal economic damage. Compare to the US more than 19 million cases and 300k+ deaths. It's scary at this point how dumb you all are.
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Originally Posted By Frank
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/C...nnq-a75p1xKE-I

Averaging well over 60,000 per week, 11% Excess (300k) for the year.
total deaths are at 2,873,773

you think were gonna have 280k+ deaths this week (3 days)
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Originally Posted By Nicklol
weve all been fine but ok dr old guy

now fuk off
you are not fine you are bald that's one of the symptoms of covid.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
Yep have taken my kids there.

Indianapolis Children's Museum. They have a huge outdoor sporting complex now too. IIRC it's still rated the #1 Children's Museum in the country. If you or your kids like transformers they have a huge lik30ft tall Bumblebee in the lobby.
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Originally Posted By jamesfrancis1
That's a very low IQ conclusion to arrive to. The reason people are wearing masks and social distancing and still dying is because a large portion of the population such as retards in this forum don't adhere to the precautions. This is why a country like South Korea has had a total of 57k covid cases and only 890 deaths while suffering minimal economic damage. Compare to the US more than 19 million cases and 300k+ deaths. It's scary at this point how dumb you all are.
Here i am agreeing with a red.

"Masks and lockdowns don't work"

While completely ignoring mask and lockdown orders.

300k extra deaths this year alone, would there had been less or more if there were no lockdowns at all?
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Originally Posted By Frank
Exactly, we've done the bare minimum as far as lockdowns go, and it shows that they do help.

I think climate and population density are the biggest factors. It makes no sense to compare alberta to Florida or California.
So we've had it worse? What?
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Originally Posted By jamesfrancis1
That's a very low IQ conclusion to arrive to. The reason people are wearing masks and social distancing and still dying is because a large portion of the population such as retards in this forum don't adhere to the precautions. This is why a country like South Korea has had a total of 57k covid cases and only 890 deaths while suffering minimal economic damage. Compare to the US more than 19 million cases and 300k+ deaths. It's scary at this point how dumb you all are.
The states with the biggest lockdowns have the highest number of "cases." If you can't see the man behind the curtain pulling strings to take away rights then you are truly a lost cause.
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Originally Posted By jamesfrancis1
That's a very low IQ conclusion to arrive to. The reason people are wearing masks and social distancing and still dying is because a large portion of the population such as retards in this forum don't adhere to the precautions. This is why a country like South Korea has had a total of 57k covid cases and only 890 deaths while suffering minimal economic damage. Compare to the US more than 19 million cases and 300k+ deaths. It's scary at this point how dumb you all are.
Uh, no, it's because Asian countries have health authorities that understand Bayes' Theorem.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
Yeah it's called a pandemic. People die.

Average age of COVID death is higher than average life expectancy. It's going to cut some peoples lives short. Working age population should be carrying on as normal though outside of basic human hygiene and courtesy.
Replace pandemic with "war". In a war people die. Wouldn't the goal be to minimize the deaths? Would you send people to underground bunkers if there was an air raid going on, or would you be screeching about people's freedoms being trampled? Working age population still need to take precautions because you can't expect every old person to live by themselves. Most of the ones getting infected/dying are from a younger person who is out being exposed and then comes home to give it to their parents/grandparents. The response doesn't work unless everyone is doing their part.
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge
The states with the biggest lockdowns have the highest number of "cases." If you can't see the man behind the curtain pulling strings to take away rights then you are truly a lost cause.
Population density and overall population is the obvious answer for this. Common sense isn't very common it seems.
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Originally Posted By EnforcerOTF
total deaths are at 2,873,773

you think were gonna have 280k+ deaths this week (3 days)
take a closer look at the data

It starts on week ending 2/1 not week ending 1/11

The data for the most recent (3-4) weeks is incomplete.

For the 44 weeks inclusive from 2/1 to 11/28 there has been 2,736,200 recorded deaths. Averaged out per week - 62,187. Prorated for a 52 week year - 3,233,700.
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