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ยป A lot of disinformation on covid on here
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post 1627484213 01-04-2021, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel
You can read the first post. I've put all relevant links in there.A bunch of dishonest Trump supportersderailed the discussion (what else is new) and tried to turn this into a political debate.

Anyway, I have posted lots of credibly sourced, useful information about Covid for people to read.
Source please.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Edit : Take a look at the post above... Hard to believe an adult male came up with that.
I disagree - only boomers have this dry humour unlike us gen Zers.
Originally Posted By wincel
You can read the first post. I've put all relevant links in there. A bunch of dishonest Trump supporters derailed the discussion (what else is new) and tried to turn this into a political debate.

Anyway, I have posted lots of credibly sourced, useful information about Covid for people to read.
]I mean it's pointless to do that. It is what it is.


I follow the rules because it doesnt bother me, won't really rush to get a vaccine that has been in dev less than year though


what I need to know is two things:

a) are national lockdowns (as opposed to international lockdowns - close inbound/outbound country border activity - that have been proven to be the major effector) worth the economic damage a lot of individuals had/have/will have to sustain?

b) why did no one had the balls to impose international lockdowns early when China admitted to having issues?


airlines got hit anyway, executives of those companies just had to bear cuts to their fat packages in an early Feb International Lockdown and employees would have been ok, even in a packaged bankruptcy
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs
I disagree - only boomers have this dry humour unlike us gen Zers.

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I mean it's pointless to do that. It is what it is.


I follow the rules because it doesnt bother me, won't really rush to get a vaccine that has been in dev less than year though


what I need to know is two things:

a) are national lockdowns (as opposed to international lockdowns - close inbound/outbound country border activity - that have been proven to be the major effector) worth the economic damage a lot of individuals had/have/will have to sustain?

b) why did no one had the balls to impose international lockdowns to


airlines got hit anyway, executives of those companies just had to bear cuts to their fat packages in an early Feb International Lockdown and employees would have been ok, even in a packaged bankruptcy
inb4 he calls you an idiot too.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs
I disagree - only boomers have this dry humour unlike us gen Zers.

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I mean it's pointless to do that. It is what it is.


I follow the rules because it doesnt bother me, won't really rush to get a vaccine that has been in dev less than year though


what I need to know is two things:

a) are national lockdowns (as opposed to international lockdowns - close inbound/outbound country border activity - that have been proven to be the major effector) worth the economic damage a lot of individuals had/have/will have to sustain?

b) why did no one had the balls to impose international lockdowns early when China admitted to having issues?


airlines got hit anyway, executives of those companies just had to bear cuts to their fat packages in an early Feb International Lockdown and employees would have been ok, even in a packaged bankruptcy
a) As of right now, to my knowledge no one thinks a national lockdown is necessary or will even work properly at this point. I think a nationwide mask mandate is what is being recommended along with further encouraging people to follow the CDC guidelines to not reopen without restrictions without meeting certain requirements on case numbers.

b) Trump was warned about this by people like Rick Bright, but he had Rick Bright fired. I think it really boils down to the fact that we were having record economic growth and everything felt good. And Trump, having an election coming up, didn't want people to panic or to blame him. He hoped it would just go away. Of course, it didn't because science actually matters and the truth isn't a matter of opinion. He gambled and lost.

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Originally Posted By wincel
a) As of right now, to my knowledge no one thinks a national lockdown is necessary or will even work properly at this point. I think a nationwide mask mandate is what is being recommended along with further encouraging people to follow the CDC guidelines to not reopen without restrictions without meeting certain requirements on case numbers.

b)Trump was warned about this by people like Rick Bright, but he had Rick Bright fired. I think it really boils down to the fact that we were having record economic growth and everything felt good. And Trump, having an election coming up, didn't want people to panic or to blame him. He hoped it would just go away. Of course, it didn't because science actually matters and the truth isn't a matter of opinion. He gambled and lost.
Please refrain from bringing politics into this thread.
Originally Posted By wincel
You can read the first post. I've put all relevant links in there. A bunch of dishonest Trump supporters derailed the discussion (what else is new) andtried to turn this into a political debate.

Anyway, I have posted lots of credibly sourced, useful information about Covid for people to read.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Please refrain from bringing politics into this thread.
Wait a liberal is being a hypocritical moron with no facts? Shocking.
I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people. Thank you.
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Originally Posted By wincel
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I see.

Literally, lockdowns in the UK are fukken useless.


Only authoritarian countries pulled it off.

Everyone else did contact tracing, earlier and tougher international lockdowns won srs
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs
I see.

Literally, lockdowns in the UK are fukken useless.


Only authoritarian countries pulled it off.

Everyone else did contact tracing, earlier and tougher international lockdowns won srs
Please note that wincel is of this stance on whether or not the response is political:
Originally Posted By wincel
No is the answer to your question, you fuking dick. Seriously Bozz there's a reason you lost mod. Get over yourself. You really aren't as smart as you think you are.
Then he goes and posts that it really is.

No wonder he just gets rustled and calls people "morons" and "idiots".
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wincel - the fat white POS is still going at this now for 48+ hours.


he is subhuman. no job, no bitches, no friends. all consumed by a virus that wont kill most, but would certainly kill him. stay home fat ass.
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Johnson and Johnson vaccine trial is on track to complete by end of January. Their vaccine is a dsDNA vaccine, and should thus be more stable at higher temperatures than the RNA vaccines. It is delivered via a live modified adenovirus that does not replicate, but can enter the cell.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...9-vaccine.html
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs
I see.

Literally, lockdowns in the UK are fukken useless.


Only authoritarian countries pulled it off.

Everyone else did contact tracing, earlier and tougher international lockdowns won srs
Yep. If China had not taken the actions they had, perhaps tens of millions would have died. In my view, they did what they had to do and it worked out well for them. Tough lockdowns seem to work best if you can contain the area to a few cities or a small state. Also, controlling the border is an issue. We have seen many islands do well with lockdowns and border testing.

Aggressive contact tracing and testing can circumvent the need for a lockdown if done right, as was seen in Taiwan. To my knowledge, Taiwan never had to lockdown. They just had a lot of testing and tested everyone who entered the country. They were able to isolate and quarantine the infected before it ever turned into a large outbreak. They only had 7 covid deaths, which is an extraordinary success for a region so densely populated. Their VP is an epidemiologist.

Our VP is an evolution denier who prayed as people died.
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Moderna is expected to up its production of the vaccine to meet 600 million doses. They hope to reach 1 billion by the end of the year.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/04/mode...this-year.html
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Originally Posted By wincel
Their VP is an epidemiologist.

Our VP is an evolution denier who prayed as people died.
I guess apart from not being as smart as you think you are, you are also quite content with being a hypocrite.
Originally Posted By wincel
You can read the first post. I've put all relevant links in there. A bunch of dishonest Trump supporters derailed the discussion (what else is new) andtried to turn this into a political debate.

Anyway, I have posted lots of credibly sourced, useful information about Covid for people to read.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
I guess apart from not being as smart as you think you are, you are also quite content with being a hypocrite.
Yeah it's not a debate. That's a factual statement. It happened.
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Originally Posted By wincel
Yeah it's not a debate. That's a factual statement. It happened.
Am I debating it?
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Originally Posted By Anachron
I guess apart from not being as smart as you think you are, you are also quite content with being a hypocrite.
He sure keeps derailing the discussion with all of this political nonsense.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
He sure keeps derailing the discussion with all of this political nonsense.
I mean, I'm not the only one seeing it, right?
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Originally Posted By Anachron
I guess apart from not being as smart as you think you are, you are also quite content with being a hypocrite.
Cue logoutbrah's go-to Anachron jpg
Your schtick sucks and it screams insecurity.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Wincel gets bodied mostly from pretending to be intellectual, yet again...

OnlyHope is illustrating that his username should be OnlyCope - this isn't a first either.

Both of them think that calling people names means they won the "argument" that doesn't even exist.

Edit : Take a look at the post above... Hard to believe an adult male came up with that.
Wincel posted some credible scientific sources, where the recommendations from such sources were even used in government policy. I trust the scientific consensus, whatever that is. If the vaccine is deemed safe, then that's what it is or the best we can do at the time being. Having faith in our brightest minds is and has always been our saving card in such crises.

Everything else is political noise or the opinions of butthurt normies like yourself. Please go
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Originally Posted By OnlyHope
Wincel posted some credible scientific sources, where the recommendations from such sources were even used in government policy. I trust the scientific consensus, whatever that is. If the vaccine is deemed safe, then that's what it is.

Everything else is political noise or the opinions of butthurt normies like yourself. Please go
And what was your contribution ITT?

Edit : here, I'll help you:
Originally Posted By OnlyHope
You are a moron (srs)
Originally Posted By OnlyHope
Posts: 22,009. But I'm glad public health policy isn't left to low IQ people like you (with no medical/scientific background) who post all day on a gay bodybuilding forum
Originally Posted By OnlyHope
There's no reasoning with them so might as well speak in their language and call them retards directly lmao, ungrateful ants who attack vaccines and public health which is responsible for them to even exist past twice the life expectency of their forefathers.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
And what was your contribution ITT?

Edit : here, I'll help you:
Here's yours:

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Originally Posted By OnlyHope
Here's yours:

Funny, that's what I see from you in my CP.

Also funny how wincel calls me out for derailing the thread... but not you, who has not been on topic for a singular post ITT.

Intellectually dishonest, that's what comes to mind.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Funny, that's what I see from you in my CP.

Also funny how wincel calls me out for derailing the thread... but not you, who has not been on topic for a singular post ITT.

Intellectually dishonest, that's what comes to mind.
Ok
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Originally Posted By OnlyHope
Wincel posted some credible scientific sources, where the recommendations from such sources were even used in government policy. I trust the scientific consensus, whatever that is. If the vaccine is deemed safe, then that's what it is or the best we can do at the time being. Having faith in our brightest minds is and has always been our saving card in such crises.

Everything else is political noise or the opinions of butthurt normies like yourself. Please go
pretty much
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For people who don't want to be the first in line for the vaccine due to its expedited request, can people also explain what other vaccines that were/weren't rushed had side effects of?

I'm genuinely curious.
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Originally Posted By Bracket199
For people who don't want to be the first in line for the vaccine due to its expedited request, can people also explain what other vaccines that were/weren't rushed had side effects of?

I'm genuinely curious.
Pretty much the same standard side effects. Nonspecific responses, such as swelling or pain at the point of injection, tiredness, fever or headache, as well as muscular or joint pain.
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Originally Posted By wincel
What are the chances of you having your license plate?
100% chance of me having my vanity plate.
Control group crew membership revoked 7/5/2022 1:50pm PST not proud.

Inb4 honorable FDA/CDC/NIH/WHO representatives

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Originally Posted By Joseph1990
100% chance of me having my vanity plate.


This u bruh?
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Originally Posted By wincel


This u bruh?
Is this "political noise" , or "butthurt opinion of normies"?
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