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02-05-2021, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted By DualRectifier⏩
I sprayed someone that reached over and grabbed the shirt of my employee in a rage. We have a knife, gun, and a couple pepper sprays. I carry 99% of the time and was at the time. I think I could shoot before knifing someone mentally. The escalation was not deadly force timeAt this point in 2021, can you describe a situation that will justify use of pepper spray but not a knife? What is the continuum of force at this point?
You can use a knife to disable arm tendons, biceps, etc. without being deadly force. You can also easily slash a carotid, jugular, femoral, etc. that is an instant bleed-out.
You can use a knife to disable arm tendons, biceps, etc. without being deadly force. You can also easily slash a carotid, jugular, femoral, etc. that is an instant bleed-out.
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Originally Posted By DualRectifier⏩
Bold, damn straight it is. You can't lose the fight or get screwed by bias prosecutors pushing an agenda if nothing happens. Won't have to pay lawyers either.If I am out with my wife, and anyone threatens or comes at her, I don't give a fuk. I will defend my family. Disregarding the pure liberal sh!tholes, which apparently now includes Georgia, this isn't the 1970s when these laws were written, when criminals just wanted your money or your watch. They just want to kill people now, for fun. I wouldn't have used a knife on the mad sports bar guy but there was no way he was getting near me or my wife. He was just a mad drunk *******. Not having been able to carry a gun legally for the past year and a half has changed my perspective.It really is about awareness, avoidance, de-escalation and get the hell outta there, before engaging. But I will do it if I need to.
And if I witnessed you doing that in that scenario I'd be a good witness and watch as you walked away never to be seen again, then I would walk away never to be seen again.
02-05-2021, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted By OfficerJimLahey⏩
Responded to a fight and went for the guy on tops arm and he move so I nailed him in the neck with a full force baton strike. Dropped instantly and I thought 'Oh, ****', luckily he was ok, but had to go out to the hospital for check up.Details please, hon. When I was at FLETC there was a pause on doing it above 10%. Someone at another FLETC location had to go to the hospital after getting one. I was ok with missing out on it

"Due to the inmate's erratic movement due to the continued fighting, my blow instead struck...' saved my ass again.
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02-05-2021, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted By gbullock32⏩
That's gonna leave a mark.Responded to a fight and went for the guy on tops arm and he move so I nailed him in the neck with a full force baton strike. Dropped instantly and I thought 'Oh, ****', luckily he was ok, but had to go out to the hospital for check up.
"Due to the inmate's erratic movement due to the continued fighting, my blow instead struck...' saved my ass again.
"Due to the inmate's erratic movement due to the continued fighting, my blow instead struck...' saved my ass again.
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02-05-2021, 02:52 PM
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I called my truck dealer’s body shop about the windshield and the guy was like well it’s $800 for OEM glass plus labor. If you don’t have all the safety stuff just go through safelite.
It’s $322 with labor, mobile service, and taxes. Took 2 mins, did it all on the computer and they’ll be at my house next week. That’s a pretty slick business model.
It’s $322 with labor, mobile service, and taxes. Took 2 mins, did it all on the computer and they’ll be at my house next week. That’s a pretty slick business model.
02-05-2021, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
Problem is now you can't drive it till they show up or you'll end up OC sprayed and handcuffed to a bench like WaltI called my truck dealer’s body shop about the windshield and the guy was like well it’s $800 for OEM glass plus labor. If you don’t have all the safety stuff just go through safelite.
It’s $322 with labor, mobile service, and taxes. Took 2 mins, did it all on the computer and they’ll be at my house next week. That’s a pretty slick business model.
It’s $322 with labor, mobile service, and taxes. Took 2 mins, did it all on the computer and they’ll be at my house next week. That’s a pretty slick business model.
Get that Explorer ST some exercise
02-05-2021, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted By gbullock32⏩
You're in corrections? Guessing that was a lead-cored ASP or baton? Nice move either way, could have been a kill moveResponded to a fight and went for the guy on tops arm and he move so I nailed him in the neck with a full force baton strike. Dropped instantly and I thought 'Oh, ****', luckily he was ok, but had to go out to the hospital for check up.
"Due to the inmate's erratic movement due to the continued fighting, my blow instead struck...' saved my ass again.
"Due to the inmate's erratic movement due to the continued fighting, my blow instead struck...' saved my ass again.
02-05-2021, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By gbullock32⏩
Based on your recommendations went with this,Spray is a lot easier to get the effect, but it gets all over, the backsplash isn't too bad if you know it's coming (little eye/throat irritation, caugh) . Gel and foam stick better to the target, so getting it off is harder, but that's less important since you're GTFOing once you use it. I like spray since it's point and spray, fck everything in that direction.
Having been sprayed with all 3, the immediate effect is similar enough between all of them that it's moot. Washing off gel and foam sucked more.
As for larger, realistically, assuming 1-2 attackers you wont need more if you hit. A little goes a long way; we are trained to use 6 second bursts at most and that is honestly enough unless the guys are really down for the cause. An average person will stop almost immediately. Not that I'd admit it, but any time I spray it's a whole can, fck it, we need to replace it after anyways.
Many cheap brands are either Mace (less potent it seems) or use lower OC concentration, or a mix of things that just burn and are not as effective. Genuine OC is what we use for a reason, sht works. We Also stick to the spray since accuracy of blast is a lot less important, and under stress that can help.
Having been sprayed with all 3, the immediate effect is similar enough between all of them that it's moot. Washing off gel and foam sucked more.
As for larger, realistically, assuming 1-2 attackers you wont need more if you hit. A little goes a long way; we are trained to use 6 second bursts at most and that is honestly enough unless the guys are really down for the cause. An average person will stop almost immediately. Not that I'd admit it, but any time I spray it's a whole can, fck it, we need to replace it after anyways.
Many cheap brands are either Mace (less potent it seems) or use lower OC concentration, or a mix of things that just burn and are not as effective. Genuine OC is what we use for a reason, sht works. We Also stick to the spray since accuracy of blast is a lot less important, and under stress that can help.
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02-05-2021, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Really? Cuz I drove it today lol. Wasn’t sure if I could get pulled over for that. The Explorer ST is the wife’s. I want to get a new truck because this GM 8 speed is such trash but I was going to wait until just under 100k and then trade it.Problem is now you can't drive it till they show up or you'll end up OC sprayed and handcuffed to a bench like Walt
Get that Explorer ST some exercise
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02-05-2021, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
State laws may vary, but I doubt it, actually cracked windshields like it sounds you are describing are considered a safety hazard, obstructed sight/vision, unsafe to drive, get pulled over and not allowed to operate the vehicle on a public road until it's fixed. So, like, it's getting towed from the spot.Really? Cuz I drove it today lol. Wasn’t sure if I could get pulled over for that. The Explorer ST is the wife’s. I want to get a new truck because this GM 8 speed is such trash but I was going to wait until just under 100k and then trade it.
Not OC'd and arrested of course unless, well, you go all Ken on the officer like Walt did and rant about how dumb it is and don't listen
02-05-2021, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
I took a class at Sig Academy with some guys who were using those. Their calculator seems decent, but you'll almost certainly have to true it. (not hard, just adjust BC/velocity until the bullet's arc matches your real world results.My 2nd m400 came in today with the Bluetooth BDX scope included, got the Bluetooth rangefinder to sync with it.

If that rig ends up legit working will with all the ballistics, gps elevation, windage, and weather entered into the phone syciing with it.
And it’s not too gimmicky...
Might move that optic system to a .338 and see what it does....
Gonna replace both those chitty hand guards

If that rig ends up legit working will with all the ballistics, gps elevation, windage, and weather entered into the phone syciing with it.
And it’s not too gimmicky...
Might move that optic system to a .338 and see what it does....
Gonna replace both those chitty hand guards
For a handguard I'm a fan of SLR:https://slrrifleworks.com/hand-guard...o-lite-series/
SIG also makes a different handguard, and the anodizing will match:
https://www.sigsauer.com/tread-13-in...ard-black.html
https://www.sigsauer.com/tread-15-in...ard-black.html
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02-05-2021, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted By DualRectifier⏩
Small reminder BTW that violent crime rates were higher in the 1970s than they are now.If I am out with my wife, and anyone threatens or comes at her, I don't give a fuk. I will defend my family. Disregarding the pure liberal sh!tholes, which apparently now includes Georgia, this isn't the 1970s when these laws were written, when criminals just wanted your money or your watch. They just want to kill people now, for fun. I wouldn't have used a knife on the mad sports bar guy but there was no way he was getting near me or my wife. He was just a mad drunk ass hole. Not having been able to carry a gun legally for the past year and a half has changed my perspective. It really is about awareness, avoidance, de-escalation and get the hell outta there, before engaging. But I will do it if I need to.
BTW, the throat chop is the stunner, you gotta follow it up with a swing to the button, jaw or temple
BTW, the throat chop is the stunner, you gotta follow it up with a swing to the button, jaw or temple
Might even be correlated to how few states allowed concealed carry back then...
Edit: Damn their stupid graph doesn't go back that far. Oh well. It was higher lol even though it got worse before getting better in modern times.
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02-05-2021, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Yea, just to be lame I got the sig one just to match.I took a class at Sig Academy with some guys who were using those. Their calculator seems decent, but you'll almost certainly have to true it. (not hard, just adjust BC/velocity until the bullet's arc matches your real world results.
For a handguard I'm a fan of SLR:https://slrrifleworks.com/hand-guard...o-lite-series/
SIG also makes a different handguard, and the anodizing will match:
https://www.sigsauer.com/tread-13-in...ard-black.html
https://www.sigsauer.com/tread-15-in...ard-black.html
For a handguard I'm a fan of SLR:https://slrrifleworks.com/hand-guard...o-lite-series/
SIG also makes a different handguard, and the anodizing will match:
https://www.sigsauer.com/tread-13-in...ard-black.html
https://www.sigsauer.com/tread-15-in...ard-black.html
Picked up some extra mag extenders for wife’s Glock 27 as well.

And oh yea- laser bore sight came in

02-05-2021, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Waste of your time, but you do you, booFlorida Crew as of 3/21
What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed" are you having trouble with?
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02-05-2021, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
I’m doing third season coues, the after thanksgiving hunt.Our two territory reps from AZ and the one from UT go every year. These are the guys I did Wyoming Antelope with.
Found out I still got 35 7mm cartridges so I should be good for another decade
02-05-2021, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
That's the one they usually do.I’m doing third season coues, the after thanksgiving hunt.
Found out I still got 35 7mm cartridges so I should be good for another decade
Found out I still got 35 7mm cartridges so I should be good for another decade
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02-05-2021, 05:00 PM
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02-05-2021, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Free rifle case and ammo, not a free case of ammo (which would be like $1000)Florida Crew as of 3/21
What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed" are you having trouble with?
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02-05-2021, 05:08 PM
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02-05-2021, 05:24 PM
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02-05-2021, 06:18 PM
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Happy Friday, MFC. What’s the current argument?
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02-05-2021, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted By PapaBurgandy⏩
I don't think there actually is oneHappy Friday, MFC. What’s the current argument?
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02-05-2021, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Well, ok. Everyone over on michaeljlindell.com watching the documentary, I guess.I don't think there actually is one
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02-05-2021, 06:31 PM
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02-05-2021, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
So....death by climate change? Thank God Biden killed the Keystone XL.Environmental trying to stop climate change got three people killed in Pennsylvania.
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02-05-2021, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted By PapaBurgandy⏩
No, death that could’ve been prevented if we allowed more climate change.So....death by climate change? Thank God Biden killed the Keystone XL.
Cold weather induced anger.
More fossil fuel use would have their lives.
02-05-2021, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted By PapaBurgandy⏩
You missed a hell of a video if you didn't get the reference.So....death by climate change? Thank God Biden killed the Keystone XL.
02-05-2021, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
I saw that video. ****ing crazy!You missed a hell of a video if you didn't get the reference.
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02-05-2021, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted By PapaBurgandy⏩
Enjoying a comedy with Eddie Murphy in it.Well, ok. Everyone over on michaeljlindell.com watching the documentary, I guess.
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