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Originally Posted By coast2coastam⏩
Can't stay in an inflationary environment forever eventually it will become deflationary as interest rates rise in coming year to WEEN defaults from over leveraged fools SRS.I hope so, I'm just worried about inflation.
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And now when millennials FINALLY have a little wealth and learning to make passive incomes to supplement their crap wage, Biden and liberal state governments are drastically increasing taxes
Lmfao at ever voting for these social liberal cock suckers
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One HUGE thing boomers always leave out is that FICO was introduced in 1989. They didn’t have to deal with credit scores at all when they were busy going to college for 1/100th of what it costs today or earning enough on a high school education to have a house, a stay at home wife, cars and vacations.
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Some more economical facts the boomers here will try to ignore








05-18-2021, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Masterchieffer⏩
On who? Which income bracket? Income or capital gains?And now when millennials FINALLY have a little wealth and learning to make passive incomes to supplement their crap wage, Biden and liberal state governments aredrastically increasing taxes
Lmfao at ever voting for these social liberal cock suckers
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Strong assumptionLook at this again, but pay attention to the title of the chart.
If the situation was reversed ( higher interest rates but less of an increase on house prices), millenials would be complaining about that.
It's funny how you can ask every one of the whiners a simple question, and get no answer:
Have you done anything in the last year to improve your situation?
No, it's just easier to bitch and complain.

If the situation was reversed ( higher interest rates but less of an increase on house prices), millenials would be complaining about that.
It's funny how you can ask every one of the whiners a simple question, and get no answer:
Have you done anything in the last year to improve your situation?
No, it's just easier to bitch and complain.

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Is your whole shtick just trying to rustle people on the misc? srs question.Direct hit though.

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Better low housing prices and higher interest rates of course.Look at this again, but pay attention to the title of the chart.
If the situation was reversed ( higher interest rates but less of an increase on house prices), millenials would be complaining about that.
It's funny how you can ask every one of the whiners a simple question, and get no answer:
Have you done anything in the last year to improve your situation?
No, it's just easier to bitch and complain.

If the situation was reversed ( higher interest rates but less of an increase on house prices), millenials would be complaining about that.
It's funny how you can ask every one of the whiners a simple question, and get no answer:
Have you done anything in the last year to improve your situation?
No, it's just easier to bitch and complain.

And lol what does my personal situation have to do with these economical facts, it sure seems to trigger you.
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Originally Posted By jofedm⏩
12h days??You see the answer every day on the misc.
Everyone I grew up with’s parents were tradies or salesmen. Lower middle class area, resource economy. Guess what like 80% of their kids did? Went to ****ing college to ge BAs in BS. What jobs were they thinking they’d get? None stayed around and all struggle like hell to live in the nearby big cities while working basic service jobs. No one wants to work with their body anymore. I have two openings right now for $50/hr and can’t find a non drug addicted qualified person. The jobs starts at 6 am and requires 12 hr days and millennials want nothing to do with it. I’m 15 years younger than the second youngest guy on the crew. I’ll be working by myself in a couple years. Where are all these computer programmers gonna live when no one wants to work to get the logs to build the houses? You think computer engineer wages will stay high when every single teenager is signing up for it? Who was supply and demand?
Everyone I grew up with’s parents were tradies or salesmen. Lower middle class area, resource economy. Guess what like 80% of their kids did? Went to ****ing college to ge BAs in BS. What jobs were they thinking they’d get? None stayed around and all struggle like hell to live in the nearby big cities while working basic service jobs. No one wants to work with their body anymore. I have two openings right now for $50/hr and can’t find a non drug addicted qualified person. The jobs starts at 6 am and requires 12 hr days and millennials want nothing to do with it. I’m 15 years younger than the second youngest guy on the crew. I’ll be working by myself in a couple years. Where are all these computer programmers gonna live when no one wants to work to get the logs to build the houses? You think computer engineer wages will stay high when every single teenager is signing up for it? Who was supply and demand?
We max out at 8-8.5h days here in Europe. And we still see the same with the quality of life of Boomers vs Millenials.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
My friend, the only thing you're proving is that you have no arguments by going the ad hominem route.It doesn't trigger me - and nice job deflecting the question, but that's par for the course. We all know the answer.
You should look into bettering your situation, you make a thread like this almost on a weekly basis.
Or you can keep crying - it's your choice really.

You should look into bettering your situation, you make a thread like this almost on a weekly basis.
Or you can keep crying - it's your choice really.

And nobody is denying that personal responsibility is of course one if not the most important factor in the success of once life but that doesn't change or counter any of the economical realities I posted here.
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The mere fact that it is stillpossiblein the current economy for a young person to get a job, buy a house or get an education
Does not in any way contradict the fact that it is much more difficult to do those things compared with any time in recent history
Of course people can better their situation. That goes for people my age too.
At a micro level they can improve their own circumstances
At a macro level it requires a majority of people to recognise there is a problem and vote accordingly (or in reality, to run for office although in the US that game is rigged too)
Having a huge part of the economy’s output being directed towards speculation in the housing market is not good for the economy
I say this as someone who has a significant direct financial benefit from house price gains
Does not in any way contradict the fact that it is much more difficult to do those things compared with any time in recent history
Of course people can better their situation. That goes for people my age too.
At a micro level they can improve their own circumstances
At a macro level it requires a majority of people to recognise there is a problem and vote accordingly (or in reality, to run for office although in the US that game is rigged too)
Having a huge part of the economy’s output being directed towards speculation in the housing market is not good for the economy
I say this as someone who has a significant direct financial benefit from house price gains
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Originally Posted By Realclout⏩
I’m betting a lot of those mortgage loans are fixed loans instead of variable though. Not sure why anyone would get a variable loan when interest rates are sub 3.5%.If you can wait a few yeas for them to start hiking interest rates you'll be golden so many IDOITS are going to be under water SRS. will be so many houses on the market for CHEAP af. PRIME time to invest.
In some ways I'd just buy now so you don't get stuck paying like a 8% interest rate later though SRS.
In some ways I'd just buy now so you don't get stuck paying like a 8% interest rate later though SRS.
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[QUOTE=****inator post_id=1638820583]Some more economical facts the boomers here will try to ignore
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These charts contradict each other when comparing wages to housing prices.
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These charts contradict each other when comparing wages to housing prices.
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
Fixed or not, if mortgage rates rise house prices will most likely fall.I’m betting a lot of those mortgage loans are fixed loans instead of variable though. Not sure why anyone would get a variable loan when interest rates are sub 3.5%.
Those who FOMO'd will be facing a tough choice when they owe $500k on a $300k house. Yes the payments are small since you locked in the old rate, but you can't sell the house without taking a bath.
What if you have to move for your job, or to be closer to family, or a due to a divorce? 30 years is a long time...
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Originally Posted By BLOATMOGGER⏩
Good point!Fixed or not, if mortgage rates rise house prices will most likely fall.
Those who FOMO'd will be facing a tough choice when they owe $500k on a $300k house. Yes the payments are small since you locked in the old rate, but you can't sell the house without taking a bath.
What if you have to move for your job, or to be closer to family, or a due to a divorce? 30 years is a long time...
Those who FOMO'd will be facing a tough choice when they owe $500k on a $300k house. Yes the payments are small since you locked in the old rate, but you can't sell the house without taking a bath.
What if you have to move for your job, or to be closer to family, or a due to a divorce? 30 years is a long time...
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Well yeah, as long as housing prices drop with rates rising, then there’s a good chance someone would pay the equivalent mortgage or less than currently.Easy solution: Don't buy a house - wait for rates to rise!

There will have to be a significant drop in housing prices though. I.e a $500k home at 2.9% today, will need to be $350k @ 6% for the $350 to be a better deal.
The question is, will housing prices crash again like in 2008? I sure hope so.
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Whole shtick? Eh, definitely main one.Is your whole shtick just trying to rustle people on the misc? srs question.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Right. Each individual bears some responsibility for the amount of effort they are willing to put in.My friend, the only thing you're proving is that you have no arguments by going the ad hominem route.
And nobody is denying that personal responsibility is of course one if not the most important factor in the success of once life but that doesn't change or counter any of the economical realities I posted here.
And nobody is denying that personal responsibility is of course one if not the most important factor in the success of once life but that doesn't change or counter any of the economical realities I posted here.
But this is a systemic issue that has been rolling since at least the early 70s.
When the world loses confidence in the American government’s ability to pay its debt, or the interest rate on our debt becomes unsustainably high, choices will have to be made. No more kicking the can down the road, no more 10-year projections to balance the budget. Congress, in a state of emergency, will have to take a buzzsaw to appropriations. And the empire will be the first thing to go.
https://mises.org/power-market/comin...merican-empireWe [the US government] really can't afford higher interest rates. And if we just keep printing more and more $$$?

And the government doesn't have sufficient assets to cover what is owed.

This is why I think the Great Reset is like a player flipping the table and declaring "new rules".
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> Millennials complaining about the fact that life is hard and unfair, and the economy is unfavourable to them
> Millennials constantly online to complain about this during working hours
Also, this:
> Millennials constantly online to complain about this during working hours
Also, this:
Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr⏩
I love these threads because they are so detached from reality.
If Millennials thought the boomers had it so good they can literally live the same lifestyle today:
Move to a small town
Get a menial back breaking job working 70+ hours
Buy a 100k small two bedroom house in the country
Wife doesnt work
2 kids
Have one base model truck with no accessories
No cell phones in the house
No cable/streaming
One TV in the family living room
Kids wear hand me downs
Rarely go out to eat and going to Dairy Queen once a month is a treat
The same lifestyle and opportunities the vast majority of boomers "enjoyed", exist today. All it requires is that you live like they did.
Im an older miscer and I grew up watching my parents generation and I LOL at the idea that they had it easy and that money and opportunities were falling off of the trees. The literally killed themselves in factories with no regulations, no HVAC, etc.... Everything this generation enjoys today was created because their life was awful and brutal.
This generation sits in HVAC controlled buildings, sipping on a Starbucks, while complaining on the internet on their smartphones about how awful they have it. They wouldnt last a day in the society boomers lived in.
If Millennials thought the boomers had it so good they can literally live the same lifestyle today:
Move to a small town
Get a menial back breaking job working 70+ hours
Buy a 100k small two bedroom house in the country
Wife doesnt work
2 kids
Have one base model truck with no accessories
No cell phones in the house
No cable/streaming
One TV in the family living room
Kids wear hand me downs
Rarely go out to eat and going to Dairy Queen once a month is a treat
The same lifestyle and opportunities the vast majority of boomers "enjoyed", exist today. All it requires is that you live like they did.
Im an older miscer and I grew up watching my parents generation and I LOL at the idea that they had it easy and that money and opportunities were falling off of the trees. The literally killed themselves in factories with no regulations, no HVAC, etc.... Everything this generation enjoys today was created because their life was awful and brutal.
This generation sits in HVAC controlled buildings, sipping on a Starbucks, while complaining on the internet on their smartphones about how awful they have it. They wouldnt last a day in the society boomers lived in.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Always has been and always will be. There will always be people there to make a profit where others have failed. No sense in trying to make a moral argument of it.So now we are waiting for other people to get screwed so we can succeed? Is that the plan going forward?

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Originally Posted By BLOATMOGGER⏩
Fixed or not, if mortgage rates rise house prices will most likely fall.
Those who FOMO'd will be facing a tough choice when they owe $500k on a $300k house. Yes the payments are small since you locked in the old rate, but you can't sell the house without taking a bath.
What if you have to move for your job, or to be closer to family, or a due to a divorce? 30 years is a long time...
Those who FOMO'd will be facing a tough choice when they owe $500k on a $300k house. Yes the payments are small since you locked in the old rate, but you can't sell the house without taking a bath.
What if you have to move for your job, or to be closer to family, or a due to a divorce? 30 years is a long time...
Originally Posted By katya422⏩
The biggest asset is not gold or land, but future cash flows received through taxation. They have more than enough to cover what is owed.Whole shtick? Eh, definitely main one.
Right. Each individual bears some responsibility for the amount of effort they are willing to put in.
But this is a systemic issue that has been rolling since at least the early 70s.
https://mises.org/power-market/comin...merican-empire
We [the US government] really can't afford higher interest rates. And if we just keep printing more and more $$$?

And the government doesn't have sufficient assets to cover what is owed.

This is why I think the Great Reset is like a player flipping the table and declaring "new rules".
Right. Each individual bears some responsibility for the amount of effort they are willing to put in.
But this is a systemic issue that has been rolling since at least the early 70s.
https://mises.org/power-market/comin...merican-empire
We [the US government] really can't afford higher interest rates. And if we just keep printing more and more $$$?

And the government doesn't have sufficient assets to cover what is owed.

This is why I think the Great Reset is like a player flipping the table and declaring "new rules".
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
Yup, that's the nature of capitalism.Always has been and always will be. There will always be people there to make a profit where others have failed. No sense in trying to make a moral argument of it.
There is no morality built into the capitalistic system.
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Is it because Millenials are less likely to work hard, put in effort and take responsibility and accountability for everything they do?
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I'll never understand why political debates always have to be so black and white like ITT. I'm a Millennial and am doing quite well for my age (I work in consulting and will probably be changing to a job paying over $140K base soon), but I also acknowledge that I'm extremely fortunate to have immigrant parents who instilled the value of education and hard work in me since I was a kid.
I certainly sympathize with Boomers that a lot of people my age spend their money very foolishly and make poor decisions that they want other people to pay for. That said, I also think it's true that the Boomers have been pretty greedy/stingy and this has fked our generation in a lot of ways too. It's insane to me how my current firm hasn't raised salaries in over a decade despite the fact that life has gotten materially more expensive, the basic requirements for the job have become much more extensive, and the competition is much higher. It's possible for both parties to be partially at fault and I'd rather politicians try to figure out how to fix this mess before it gets worse instead of masturbating over who is more at fault.
I certainly sympathize with Boomers that a lot of people my age spend their money very foolishly and make poor decisions that they want other people to pay for. That said, I also think it's true that the Boomers have been pretty greedy/stingy and this has fked our generation in a lot of ways too. It's insane to me how my current firm hasn't raised salaries in over a decade despite the fact that life has gotten materially more expensive, the basic requirements for the job have become much more extensive, and the competition is much higher. It's possible for both parties to be partially at fault and I'd rather politicians try to figure out how to fix this mess before it gets worse instead of masturbating over who is more at fault.
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Originally Posted By squat_blaster⏩
Yeah those boomers were known for being hardworking and responsible...Is it because Millenials are less likely to work hard, put in effort and take responsibility and accountability for everything they do?

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Not surprising, nobody wants to work hard anymore. They would rather try making tik toks/YouTube’s in hopes of getting rich
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Originally Posted By Nonsense916⏩
Your post disparaging get-rich-quick schemes might hold more weight if you didn't have that user sig...Not surprising, nobody wants to work hard anymore. They would rather try making tik toks/YouTube’s in hopes of getting rich
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Originally Posted By imbeingcereal⏩
Good post. In regards to wages, since the 1970’s we’ve seen a near doubling of the labor supply with women entering into the market. That’s going to depress wages from rising, but one would think there would be a point where the labor supply and wages would intersect and stabilize.I'll never understand why political debates always have to be so black and white like ITT. I'm a Millennial and am doing quite well for my age (I work in consulting and will probably be changing to a job paying over $140K base soon), but I also acknowledge that I'm extremely fortunate to have immigrant parents who instilled the value of education and hard work in me since I was a kid.
I certainly sympathize with Boomers that a lot of people my age spend their money very foolishly and make poor decisions that they want other people to pay for. That said, I also think it's true that the Boomers have been pretty greedy/stingy and this has fked our generation in a lot of ways too. It's insane to me how my current firm hasn't raised salaries in over a decade despite the fact that life has gotten materially more expensive, the basic requirements for the job have become much more extensive, and the competition is much higher. It's possible for both parties to be partially at fault and I'd rather politicians try to figure out how to fix this mess before it gets worse instead of masturbating over who is more at fault.
I certainly sympathize with Boomers that a lot of people my age spend their money very foolishly and make poor decisions that they want other people to pay for. That said, I also think it's true that the Boomers have been pretty greedy/stingy and this has fked our generation in a lot of ways too. It's insane to me how my current firm hasn't raised salaries in over a decade despite the fact that life has gotten materially more expensive, the basic requirements for the job have become much more extensive, and the competition is much higher. It's possible for both parties to be partially at fault and I'd rather politicians try to figure out how to fix this mess before it gets worse instead of masturbating over who is more at fault.
However, I’m curious what the increase in immigrants (legal & illegal) since the 1980’s has done to the labor supply and wages. White collar jobs that tend to be hire paying get increased pressure with increases in HB1, EB2, EAD immigrants which leads to depression of wages. HB2 or illegals, will have an effect on blue collar jobs, but not as drastic effect as there aren’t too many Americans wanting to do those jobs. It is with those immigrants children, where the labor supply into higher paying blue collar and white collar jobs will be felt, again increasing the labor supply leads to decreasing wages. There isn’t a chance for the market to stabilize when immigrant quotas keep getting increased.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t have any immigration, but it must be much tightly regulated in order to help increase wages. Maybe a Swiss model should be something that is adapted here.
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