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07-14-2021, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
nah it's all looks. I have gotten laid and I'm pretty autistic and barely talk. I'm not good looking either but you really just have to be average + a girl's type and then you just show up. Not rocket science. Just a numbers game. But in OP's defense, being 5'4 and ethnic makes him no girl's type. :/This is what I always tell guys. Looks will be what gets you the match to a girl of a similar look level. Personality and game get you the date. Confidence and attitude gets you laid.
Lots of guys have none of these qualities.
Lots of guys have none of these qualities.
But OP why are you only using Bumble? It's by far the worst app for getting dates. At least from my experience. Tinder and Hinge you can pay to win. Bumble boost doesn't work and I barely get matches after the first week. You should just download all the apps and pick one to pay for (Either Tinder Platinum or Hinge IMO).
Also get on Nardil. You wouldn't be posting this depressing **** if your brain was flooded by dopamine/serotonin/norepinephrine 24/7. It's legit af.
07-14-2021, 07:46 AM
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What's with all of the liberal posters on the misc getting doxxed all of a sudden?Ernie got doxxed, I'm not him
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These guys play an important part of our ecosystem - They act as a lesson to young impressionable miscers on how not to act, not to think, etc. That their way only leads to misery and a wretched life.
The wincels & ernie's of the world are our version of the cautionary tale - like "If you don't adopt right-wing or right-of-center views, you'll end up being the type of guy who is too fearful to have an avi, or an avi not of their body/face".
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07-14-2021, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted By imbored21⏩
I only ever got results on bumble so I stopped the others.nah it's all looks. I have gotten laid and I'm pretty autistic and barely talk. I'm not good looking either but you really just have to be average + a girl's type and then you just show up. Not rocket science. Just a numbers game. But in OP's defense, being 5'4 and ethnic makes him no girl's type. :/
But OP why are you only using Bumble? It's by far the worst app for getting dates. At least from my experience. Tinder and Hinge you can pay to win. Bumble boost doesn't work and I barely get matches after the first week. You should just download all the apps and pick one to pay for (Either Tinder Platinum or Hinge IMO).
Also get on Nardil.
But OP why are you only using Bumble? It's by far the worst app for getting dates. At least from my experience. Tinder and Hinge you can pay to win. Bumble boost doesn't work and I barely get matches after the first week. You should just download all the apps and pick one to pay for (Either Tinder Platinum or Hinge IMO).
Also get on Nardil.
Tinders also more trashy in general
07-14-2021, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
This isn't what's happening anymore. There is an imbalance. 80% of women are chasing 20% of the men. They are not settling for their level anymoreThis is what I always tell guys. Looks will be what gets you the match to a girl of a similar look level. Personality and game get you the date. Confidence and attitude gets you laid.
Lots of guys have none of these qualities.
Lots of guys have none of these qualities.
07-14-2021, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
when did this rule kick in?This isn't what's happening anymore. There is an imbalance. 80% of women are chasing 20% of the men. They are not settling for their level anymore
07-14-2021, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted By miscbro333⏩
2012 like eod always says. That's basically when the data starts going this waywhen did this rule kick in?
07-14-2021, 07:59 AM
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women never settle down... they settle up. RARELY will you see a 5 with a 4 dude... so on and so forth. And this law has just gotten worse and worse to the point where a 4 thinks she's entitled to an 8.
Most modern day women will spend their prime years getting stretched out by Chad, then when she comes to the realization that she's depreciated and aged like milk... her survival psychological instincts will kick in and she'll find a beta to marinate her walls and put a ring on it. Then she will leave and chop him in half... and he will pay her for the next couple decades.
Most modern day women will spend their prime years getting stretched out by Chad, then when she comes to the realization that she's depreciated and aged like milk... her survival psychological instincts will kick in and she'll find a beta to marinate her walls and put a ring on it. Then she will leave and chop him in half... and he will pay her for the next couple decades.
07-14-2021, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
it's not a myth, it's a fact of life.This is a huge myth. You need to meet a minimum standard in each area. For an extreme example just to make the point, you could have all the money in the world and everything else but if you're a legit midget most women will not care
The minimum standard in each of these areas is going up.
The minimum standard in each of these areas is going up.
you can larp and complain about hypergamy and how it's not your fault and that you were dealt a bad hand in life and it's out of your control
but the fact of the matter is youcancompensate in other areas and it's your choice whether you do so or not.
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07-14-2021, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted By imbored21⏩
I was gonna say I think at this point a lot of ops problem is being depressed about his dating situation and he probably doesn't have the confidence/swag to meet women irl. Or he has some kind of chemical imbalance. I havent been laid in years and this is what happened to me. When I was confident and happy all the time I got girls. You gotta have swag and that comes from positive experiences and positive reinforcement throughout life.nah it's all looks. I have gotten laid and I'm pretty autistic and barely talk. I'm not good looking either but you really just have to be average + a girl's type and then you just show up. Not rocket science. Just a numbers game. But in OP's defense, being 5'4 and ethnic makes him no girl's type. :/
But OP why are you only using Bumble? It's by far the worst app for getting dates. At least from my experience. Tinder and Hinge you can pay to win. Bumble boost doesn't work and I barely get matches after the first week. You should just download all the apps and pick one to pay for (Either Tinder Platinum or Hinge IMO).
Also get on Nardil. You wouldn't be posting this depressing **** if your brain was flooded by dopamine/serotonin/norepinephrine 24/7. It's legit af.
But OP why are you only using Bumble? It's by far the worst app for getting dates. At least from my experience. Tinder and Hinge you can pay to win. Bumble boost doesn't work and I barely get matches after the first week. You should just download all the apps and pick one to pay for (Either Tinder Platinum or Hinge IMO).
Also get on Nardil. You wouldn't be posting this depressing **** if your brain was flooded by dopamine/serotonin/norepinephrine 24/7. It's legit af.
That being said I still don't know how men below the top 20% date now days. Op is 30 years old so he's not forced into interaction and dating anymore because he's older so like how does he approach girls?
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07-14-2021, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Well to be honest yes. I'd rather be single. But a lot of men would happily settle but can't find anyoneNeither are you.

07-14-2021, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
The madman was fukin right.2012 like eod always says. That's basically when the data starts going this way
Imagine 10 years from now.
Misc has grown up and every week there is a thread on marriage/dating and how shetty it is nowadays
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07-14-2021, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Jimmehhh⏩
Yea this is true. But it’s better to be good at everything than be great at just one thing and abysmal at otherswomen take aholisticapprove to male attractiveness, in that they consider a whole bunch of chit like looks, social/ dominance status, wealth, intelligence, humor etc
meaning if you're lacking in one (looks for example) you can compensate in others (social/dominance status and humor for instance) and be perfectly adept and banging hot sloots.
meaning if you're lacking in one (looks for example) you can compensate in others (social/dominance status and humor for instance) and be perfectly adept and banging hot sloots.
If Bill Gates was even just a 5.5/10 in looks he probably could have gotten all the Microsoft puss he wanted. But still scared women off, despite all the power money and status
07-14-2021, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
I do just fine socially. Women are never physically attracted to me and so they don't want to date me but they'll be friendsI was gonna say I think at this point a lot of ops problem is being depressed about his dating situation and he probably doesn't have the confidence/swag to meet women irl. Or he has some kind of chemical imbalance. I havent been laid in years and this is what happened to me. When I was confident and happy all the time I got girls. You gotta have swag and that comes from positive experiences and positive reinforcement throughout life.
That being said I still don't know how men below the top 20% date now days. Op is 30 years old so he's not forced into interaction and dating anymore because he's older so like how does he approach girls?
That being said I still don't know how men below the top 20% date now days. Op is 30 years old so he's not forced into interaction and dating anymore because he's older so like how does he approach girls?
07-14-2021, 08:26 AM
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“When paired with the ground truth of hypergamy, the growth of female attainment (and comparative stagnation of male attainment) amounts to a law of diminishing returns. The more a woman achieves, the less suitable mates she has to choose from. It is, indeed, difficult to marry above and across dominance hierarchies if you sit atop your own. This difficulty is further compounded by the fact that older high-powered women must compete not only among themselves but with younger women for a fleeting number of high-value men.”
Congrats, you played yourself.
33 million women are fighting for 1 million men with 6-figure income, 6 feet tall, and 6-pack abs
Congrats, you played yourself.
33 million women are fighting for 1 million men with 6-figure income, 6 feet tall, and 6-pack abs
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07-14-2021, 08:39 AM
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Sounds to me like guys actually have to work on themselves/a relationship in order to keep a woman. Since it requires actual work, they don't want to do it. Sounds just like the millennial/gen z generation who always complain how hard things are, but when you ask them to "work harder" they say they work hard enough, and that's not the underlying issue (just LOL).
Men are lazy these days, and then complain when things don't go there way. Learn to adapt and you won't have issues.
Men are lazy these days, and then complain when things don't go there way. Learn to adapt and you won't have issues.
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07-14-2021, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Wyzz⏩
reppedLol who gives a fuk about the greater society.
If you can find a decent women and build a family then do it. Otherwise as men start preparing to live single life till death.
Find new ways to be happy and to keep yourself healthy so that you don’t have to be dependent on care workers in your later years.
If you can find a decent women and build a family then do it. Otherwise as men start preparing to live single life till death.
Find new ways to be happy and to keep yourself healthy so that you don’t have to be dependent on care workers in your later years.
07-14-2021, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
lol he was right all along.2012 like eod always says. That's basically when the data starts going this way
It's like the matrix. There is no spoon
07-14-2021, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Bracket199⏩
Lol at blaming the men for the out of control standards women have.Sounds to me like guys actually have to work on themselves/a relationship in order to keep a woman. Since it requires actual work, they don't want to do it. Sounds just like the millennial/gen z generation who always complain how hard things are, but when you ask them to "work harder" they say they work hard enough, and that's not the underlying issue (just LOL).
Men are lazy these days, and then complain when things don't go there way. Learn to adapt and you won't have issues.
Men are lazy these days, and then complain when things don't go there way. Learn to adapt and you won't have issues.
07-14-2021, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted By miscbro333⏩
Yea everything changed in 2012 he was rightlol he was right all along.
It's like the matrix. There is no spoon
It's like the matrix. There is no spoon
07-14-2021, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Briisk⏩
A smart man is investing in cat services right now33 million women are fighting for 1 million men with 6-figure income, 6 feet tall, and 6-pack abs
07-14-2021, 09:01 AM
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[QUOTE=meanstringbean;164281160
Only when you’re 7+ In looks do women chase you. These are the guys who win in online dating (speaking from experience as one). When you get hundreds of matches every couple of days, can schedule a date with a HBB every day of the week, then your capacity to tolerate bull**** from women drops to zero.[/QUOTE]
Ehh I’m a 7 and my results are dismal nowadays. Couldn’t get anything online anymore, and IRL approaching just isn’t worth the effort.
If you’re a 9 with some local status I’m sure you would do well
Only when you’re 7+ In looks do women chase you. These are the guys who win in online dating (speaking from experience as one). When you get hundreds of matches every couple of days, can schedule a date with a HBB every day of the week, then your capacity to tolerate bull**** from women drops to zero.[/QUOTE]
Ehh I’m a 7 and my results are dismal nowadays. Couldn’t get anything online anymore, and IRL approaching just isn’t worth the effort.
If you’re a 9 with some local status I’m sure you would do well
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Originally Posted By meanstringbean⏩
I usually wear button down shirts, sleeves rolled up and jeans with nice chelsea boots or something when I’m out. I’m far from the typical slob you see in Walmart. Women don’t care what you wearThis is true. Women can get easy sex from top guys but not relationships.
So if you’re a guy you either LDAR or work on yourself. It’s never been easier to be a top 10-20% male. Yes genetics play a factor but if you work out regularly, eat right, have decent style, have hobbies that aren’t fortnite then you’ll be fine
The average guy is absolutely pathetic and has been for some time. If you look around and don’t see that you are likely pathetic yourself (not saying you specifically but in general)
Doesn’t take much people watching to see why women aren't into a 28 year old man child with a beer gut, Marvel t shirt, who’s weekend activities are limited to sitting on the couch watching other men his age play football
So if you’re a guy you either LDAR or work on yourself. It’s never been easier to be a top 10-20% male. Yes genetics play a factor but if you work out regularly, eat right, have decent style, have hobbies that aren’t fortnite then you’ll be fine
The average guy is absolutely pathetic and has been for some time. If you look around and don’t see that you are likely pathetic yourself (not saying you specifically but in general)
Doesn’t take much people watching to see why women aren't into a 28 year old man child with a beer gut, Marvel t shirt, who’s weekend activities are limited to sitting on the couch watching other men his age play football
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Originally Posted By FastBack6⏩
This lol. That's a scam to get men to spend money.I usually wear button down shirts, sleeves rolled up and jeans with nice chelsea boots or something when I’m out. I’m far from the typical slob you see in Walmart. Women don’t care what you wear
Oh just buy that car, or that shirt, or that house and you'll get women!
In reality she'll bang chad in the streets. She doesn't care.
And when it comes to a relationship she'll stay single instead of going with an undesirable
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Unless your chad, then I'm guessing you won't care.Yes couch potato sports fans are the absolute cringiest.
Brb spending your weekend on the couch stuffing your face while watching Chads run around.
Brb spending your weekend on the couch stuffing your face while watching Chads run around.
Every single thing women complain about goes away if it's chad doing it
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
sounds like a wet dream for youYes couch potato sports fans are the absolute cringiest.
Brb spending your weekend on the couch stuffing your face while watching Chads run around.
Brb spending your weekend on the couch stuffing your face while watching Chads run around.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Most often the people that watch played often.. prob a small segment that never did and enjoy it for other reasonsYes couch potato sports fans are the absolute cringiest.
Brb spending your weekend on the couch stuffing your face while watching Chads run around.
Brb spending your weekend on the couch stuffing your face while watching Chads run around.
And if a chick likes it its prob from a brother or family or something
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Men are just attracted to competition, its been this way since the dawn of time.Most often the people that watch played often.. prob a small segment that never did and enjoy it for other reasons
And if a chick likes it its prob from a brother or family or something
And if a chick likes it its prob from a brother or family or something
When NFL season hits I dont exist on Sundays. I'm glued to the tv and I fukin love it. Plenty of chads love it too
07-14-2021, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
There willalwaysbe opportunities for smart, strong, consistent and persistent men. Think hard, and optimize your life to the best of your ability.Things literally changed post 2012 with social media/online dating and 4th wave feminism
If you look back almost everything that is going on right now started either in 2012 or a year or two after/before
It literally opened a pandoras box and it's not hard to see.But what can you do?
If you look back almost everything that is going on right now started either in 2012 or a year or two after/before
It literally opened a pandoras box and it's not hard to see.But what can you do?
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