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I remain unvaccinated and proud.

I'm in the Bay Area, CA which is ground zero for brainwashed NPC's

Even the ones who were literally lined up to be the first ones to get Vaxxed and now kind of admiring my strength and fortitude of resisting all this pressure. Remember, things are very different in CA than the rest of the US - everybody in the Bay still wears masks, businesses still require masks, and they'll still kick you out / enforce the mask mandates.

We started seeing mandatory vax mandates to keep our jobs in our industry....I still said "nope". They were like "you're crazy bro, it's just a vax." and my response has always been "It's not about this vax or another vax, it's about the principle. The government doesn't have the right to tell me what medication or what substances I MUST put in my body, and my employer doesn't have the right to know my medical status. If they make it a condition of employment, I'll simply quit that day because I'm not going to work for a company like that"

Go get your booster shots morons. Keep making big Pharma rich while you've had nearly 2 years of your life STOLEN from you.

It's been said a million times, this chit ends as soon as people stop going along with it. I'm holding strong to my principles, I suggest the rest of you do the same. Walk into every business without a mask, just ignore anyone who says anything. Just say "I'm exempt" in a dismissive tone, don't be a dick, just demonstrate through your demeanor you're above all this and aren't going to have a discussion about it.
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Originally Posted By steeler505
Imagine getting coerced into taking an experimental vaccine so you can live a normal life...

Then catch corona anyway, can't walk anywhere on campus without a mask, mandatory testing.

Covid vaccine mandates are the biggest scam perpetrated on the humans in world history.
2nd biggest

1st is the so-called holocaust

same perpetrators though, so you're not far off
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Originally Posted By CulturalDecay
I remain unvaccinated and proud.

I'm in the Bay Area, CA which is ground zero for brainwashed NPC's

Even the ones who were literally lined up to be the first ones to get Vaxxed and now kind of admiring my strength and fortitude of resisting all this pressure. Remember, things are very different in CA than the rest of the US - everybody in the Bay still wears masks, businesses still require masks, and they'll still kick you out / enforce the mask mandates.

We started seeing mandatory vax mandates to keep our jobs in our industry....I still said "nope". They were like "you're crazy bro, it's just a vax." and my response has always been "It's not about this vax or another vax, it's about the principle. The government doesn't have the right to tell me what medication or what substances I MUST put in my body, and my employer doesn't have the right to know my medical status. If they make it a condition of employment, I'll simply quit that day because I'm not going to work for a company like that"

Go get your booster shots morons. Keep making big Pharma rich while you've had nearly 2 years of your life STOLEN from you.

It's been said a million times, this chit ends as soon as people stop going along with it. I'm holding strong to my principles, I suggest the rest of you do the same. Walk into every business without a mask, just ignore anyone who says anything. Just say "I'm exempt" in a dismissive tone, don't be a dick, just demonstrate through your demeanor you're above all this and aren't going to have a discussion about it.
"I'm exempt" - thanks, I'm gonna use that now. i've just been saying, "I'm not doing it this time," which is more confrontational.
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Vaccines continue to exceed expectations. Protection against severe disease and death waning very little, ~90%. Additional benefits include cutting risk of infection by half and clearing the virus more quickly. Tonight at the dinner table skip the Jesus prayer. Instead, hold hands and give thanks to the scientific community.
"Seen in the light of evolution, biology is, perhaps, intellectually the most satisfying and inspiring science. Without that light it becomes a pile of sundry facts -- some of them interesting or curious but making no meaningful picture as a whole."
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Vaccines continue to exceed expectations. Protection against severe and death waning very little, ~90%. Additional benefits include cutting risk of infection by half and clearing the virus more quickly. Tonight at the dinner table skip the Jesus prayer. Instead, hold hands and give thanks to the scientific community.
Beyond deranged. What is worse here, the inane statement that the vaccines are exceeding expectations or the idea of giving thanks to their scientific community in a Religious-esque manner.

Edit: Lol @ the neg messsage, lol in a legitimate "that was actually funny" way. Also, it was a return and turnabout is fair play when it comes to that, not complaining about it at all.
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Vaccines continue to exceed expectations. Protection against severe disease and death waning very little, ~90%. Additional benefits include cutting risk of infection by half and clearing the virus more quickly. Tonight at the dinner table skip the Jesus prayer. Instead, hold hands and give thanks to the scientific community.
Imagine living in a world where people this ^ stupid just didn't exist.

I'm hoping the vaxx extreme conspiracy theorists are correct that all the vaxxed will be dead in 2-3 years. It'll be a really good start. I can work with that.
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Vaccines continue to exceed expectations. Protection against severe disease and death waning very little, ~90%. Additional benefits include cutting risk of infection by half and clearing the virus more quickly. Tonight at the dinner table skip the Jesus prayer. Instead, hold hands and give thanks to the scientific community.
exceed expectations?

this is the first vaccine I've heard of that doesn't prevent the target disease.... like at all.
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Originally Posted By johnnydeep1
But how bad was the out break?

Did they get a severe reaction? Point of the vaccine is to protect against severe reaction
college kids are in a low risk category as is so i could guess low severity unless they're obese
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXGZu4yxjW0
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Vaccines continue to exceed expectations. Protection against severe disease and death waning very little, ~90%. Additional benefits include cutting risk of infection by half and clearing the virus more quickly. Tonight at the dinner table skip the Jesus prayer. Instead, hold hands and give thanks to the scientific community.
A lot of the scientific community is against mandatory rollout, including the inventor of the technology, which should tell you something.
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXGZu4yxjW0
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Vaccines continue to exceed expectations. Protection against severe disease and death waning very little, ~90%. Additional benefits include cutting risk of infection by half and clearing the virus more quickly. Tonight at the dinner table skip the Jesus prayer. Instead, hold hands and give thanks to the scientific community.
The embodiment of StockHolm Syndrome right here folks. No, there are no serious side effects; the twitching should go away after a while. Same goes for your Bell's Palsy, bud. How ****ing swell of the governments of the World to band together during our hour of need! And let's give it up for the vultures impartial journalists at the media; keeping us up to date 24/7 with the latest Facts™ and figures to keep that sweet, sweet fear going! Give a hand to the pharma companies who all managed to **** out the greatest and safest vaccines in history in record time!!! I'd tell you to clap for the doctors, nurses and delivery drivers who waited on you hand and foot for the past year and a half but we're past that now and it's time to root out any unvaccinated dissenters from their ranks and rake them across the coals like the filthy plague rats they are!

For **** sake. Take the tin-foil mask off and keep that ****ing syringe full of poisoned Kool-Aid away from me, you demented *******s. That ****ing Keebler elf, Happy Mask Salesman son of a bitch Felchy and the rest of the ****s running this ****-show might have pulled the wool over your eyes but you're not dragging me down with you. If you seriously think for a ****ing second that these elitist ****philes, who let me remind you have broken their own rules time and time again throughout this pussy Playmobil pandemic and have a LOOOOOONG history of ****ing us over, have your best interests at heart, you're ****ing DREAMING.
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Originally Posted By WWE-TicK
I thought the vaccine was never meant to keep you from getting COVID, but rather make the symptoms less severe?
Originally Posted By gixxer0.6g
Correct. That's where they moved thr goalposts when they realized it wasn't working
Originally Posted By PAU1
What you're stating isn't in line with official guidance but that is the direction the narrative shifts as it becomes apparent the vaxx doesn't stop the spread.

From the CDC site:
Originally Posted By yeshli2nuts
What he said is entirely in in line with the official guidance actually.
Originally Posted By PAU1
...Is at odds with both their statements.
I'm convinced majority of anti-vaxers are pretending to be dumb, or are purposefully saying stupid shiit just to make the rest of us who aren't vaccinated look bad. Stop being stupid. Do some reading, and bring up actual arguments or data/peer reviewed papers that substantiate any claims, instead of your stupid fuking red herring arguments and "hurr durr look at uuuu!!!" arguments. It's like having retards on your side as back-up

1. Understand that the claims around the vaccine was regarding development of COVID-19
2. Understand that COVID-19 is the sickness, not the virus. They are used interchangeably, but they are not the same. Think HIV and AIDS if it makes it easier for you to grasp
3. You may be a carrier of SARS-CoV-2 but not experience COVID-19. Virus...Sickness
4. Positive tests at Duke show support for the vaccine. That is, "look how many people have reported positive with little to no symptoms! The vaccine is working". You idiots making posts like this are in effect showing that the vaccines are working.
5. What you need to do is find data/show data that compares vaccinated vs. unvaccinated, with the variable of "would it have been worse if this data points were unvaccinated?", which is difficult to design experiments for ethically (aside from possibly twin studies, which are likely rare).


Instead, those of us who are unvaccinated have to fuking deal with idiots who make us look like we're all babbling idiots who can't coherently form a logical argument, and indirectly garner support for the vaccinated argument.


Are there educated conversations for people who aren't vaccinated, who aren't just linking every youtube video, ******** page, etc?
Originally Posted By Rayaarito
I'm still trying to wrap my head around it tbh

You were supposed to get the vaccine to create herd immunity. But you can still carry and spread the virus.

It was supposed to stop you from getting the virus. But you can still get the virus.

So far it sounds like you don't get it to protect others but you get the vaccine to protect yourself so it's not as bad. So idk why everyone is pushing it so hard.

Kinda like they thought it worked but it didn't. so now they're trying to save face and all the parrots are still chirping the old message.

This is coming from somebody who got the vax
And this is where the argument should be made right now, where the vaccine is generally for your own protection, and that you should have the right to make that choice.
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Duke? its simple, I blame white people
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Originally Posted By whitepaper
I'm convinced majority of anti-vaxers are pretending to be dumb, or are purposefully saying stupid shiit just to make the rest of us who aren't vaccinated look bad. Stop being stupid. Do some reading, and bring up actual arguments or data/peer reviewed papers that substantiate any claims, instead of your stupid fuking red herring arguments and "hurr durr look at uuuu!!!" arguments. It's like having retards on your side as back-up

1. Understand that the claims around the vaccine was regarding development of COVID-19
2. Understand that COVID-19 is the sickness, not the virus. They are used interchangeably, but they are not the same. Think HIV and AIDS if it makes it easier for you to grasp
3. You may be a carrier of SARS-CoV-2 but not experience COVID-19. Virus...Sickness
4. Positive tests at Duke show support for the vaccine. That is, "look how many people have reported positive with little to no symptoms! The vaccine is working". You idiots making posts like this are in effect showing that the vaccines are working.
5. What you need to do is find data/show data that compares vaccinated vs. unvaccinated, with the variable of "would it have been worse if this data points were unvaccinated?", which is difficult to design experiments for ethically (aside from possibly twin studies, which are likely rare).


Instead, those of us who are unvaccinated have to fuking deal with idiots who make us look like we're all babbling idiots who can't coherently form a logical argument, and indirectly garner support for the vaccinated argument.


Are there educated conversations for people who aren't vaccinated, who aren't just linking every youtube video, ******** page, etc?





And this is where the argument should be made right now, where the vaccine is generally for your own protection, and that you should have the right to make that choice.
This is all very interesting..let me try..

“CDC-Outbreak Of SARS-COV-2 Infections, Including Covid-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Infection..”

“In July 2021, following multiple large public events in a Barnstable County, Massachusetts, town, 469 COVID-19 cases were identified among Massachusetts residents who had traveled to the town during July 3–17; 346 (74%) occurred in fully vaccinated persons. Testing identified the Delta variant in 90% of specimens from 133 patients. Cycle threshold values were similar among specimens from patients who were fully vaccinated and those who were not.”

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm

Read that last sentence again..”Cycle threshold values were similar among specimens from patients who were fully vaccinated and those who were not.”

The vaccine does not offer anyone any protection whatsoever
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Originally Posted By Paul
This is all very interesting..let me try..

“CDC-Outbreak Of SARS-COV-2 Infections, Including Covid-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Infection..”

“In July 2021, following multiple large public events in a Barnstable County, Massachusetts, town, 469 COVID-19 cases were identified among Massachusetts residents who had traveled to the town during July 3–17; 346 (74%) occurred in fully vaccinated persons. Testing identified the Delta variant in 90% of specimens from 133 patients. Cycle threshold values were similar among specimens from patients who were fully vaccinated and those who were not.”

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm

Read that last sentence again..”Cycle threshold values were similar among specimens from patients who were fully vaccinated and those who were not.”

The vaccine does not offer anyone any protection whatsoever
Not what that’s implying Paul
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Originally Posted By Paul
This is all very interesting..let me try..

“CDC-Outbreak Of SARS-COV-2 Infections, Including Covid-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Infection..”

“In July 2021, following multiple large public events in a Barnstable County, Massachusetts, town, 469 COVID-19 cases were identified among Massachusetts residents who had traveled to the town during July 3–17; 346 (74%) occurred in fully vaccinated persons. Testing identified the Delta variant in 90% of specimens from 133 patients. Cycle threshold values were similar among specimens from patients who were fully vaccinated and those who were not.”

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm

Read that last sentence again..”Cycle threshold values were similar among specimens from patients who were fully vaccinated and those who were not.”

The vaccine does not offer anyone any protection whatsoever
Did you not read point number 5 I made?
5. What you need to do is find data/show data that compares vaccinated vs. unvaccinated, with the variable of "would it have been worse if this data points were unvaccinated?", which is difficult to design experiments for ethically (aside from possibly twin studies, which are likely rare).
If you guys keep arguing the same fuking things with evidence that either:
1. Does not support your argument
2. Can be argued for either side

Then the case for the right to refuse vaccination is going to be lost, and people like you are simply going to get the rest of us who are holding out to end up losing any valid claims we may have.

Please don't use observational reports as they show nothing that can be validated, or replicated in a peer reviewed manner.


Also, please don't cherry pick information and data, you're not helping us in this case:
Real-time reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) cycle threshold (Ct) values in specimens from 127 vaccinated persons with breakthrough cases were similar to those from 84 persons who were unvaccinated, not fully vaccinated, or whose vaccination status was unknown (median = 22.77 and 21.54, respectively)
You can pick holes in this observational report like a hot knife going through butter.


Consider what you link when no valid comparison can be made between unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals, because at that point, it's just a crap shoot, and we have no underlying understanding or baseline for the variances amongst different groups to be able to draw any actual conclusions.


Not to mention, observational reports like that do nothing but improve the argument for masks, lockdowns, and more mandates. You're chopping off your nose to spite your face in this case.

I for one would prefer not to have to go through those conditions
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Not what that’s implying Paul
Ohh..please do tell what this means..

“Cycle threshold values were similar among specimens from patients who were fully vaccinated and those who were not.”
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Originally Posted By whitepaper
Did you not read point number 5 I made?




If you guys keep arguing the same fuking things with evidence that either:
1. Does not support your argument
2. Can be argued for either side

Then the case for the right to refuse vaccination is going to be lost, and people like you are simply going to get the rest of us who are holding out to end up losing any valid claims we may have.

Please don't use observational reports as they show nothing that can be validated, or replicated in a peer reviewed manner.


Also, please don't cherry pick information and data, you're not helping us in this case:



You can pick holes in this observational report like a hot knife going through butter.


Consider what you link when no valid comparison can be made between unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals, because at that point, it's just a crap shoot, and we have no underlying understanding or baseline for the variances amongst different groups to be able to draw any actual conclusions.


Not to mention, observational reports like that do nothing but improve the argument for masks, lockdowns, and more mandates. You're chopping off your nose to spite your face in this case.

I for one would prefer not to have to go through those conditions
Masks have no effect on viral transmission, that’s a fact

Lockdowns have killed & injured more people than Covid could possibly hope to.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
lmfao. How many of the 15k were exposed you potato? You don't know, I don't know, but I'll wager that most everyone walking around has been exposed at some point or another paricularly since masks and sociall distancing have been out the window the last few months.

So barely anyone infected on the entire phuking massive campus. None hospitalized but "hur dur duh vaxxes don work so good hur dur"

christ it's scary I have to share a country with some of you. I DGAF if you get or don't get the vax, but the sheer amount of stupidity is astounding.
The infections were detected all in ONE WEEK. Just one week. By that alone almost everything you've posted in this thread is potato.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Let's start with a few common themes.
1. Vaccines of all kinds never prevent 100 percent of anything, ever.
Flu shot anyone.
2. The reason everyone freaked out last year was because of 2 things, 1 deaths and 2 , having 1 million total hospital beds in the usa... and 331 million total people. So hospital count is valid.

3. Varients escape 1 or 2 jabs according to Israel and their scientists so, the goalposts were moved and the way to respond has as well.
4.In sports it is called halftime adjustments because your plays are not working and you want to win by adjusting your plays and strategy.
A lot of bullchit there but the last line takes the cake. This isn't changing the gamelan this is moving the end zone because your team can't score.
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The 2.2% unvaccinated superspreaders are to be blamed for this outbreak. Off to the gulags they go!
“Variant factories”

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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Vaccines continue to exceed expectations. Protection against severe disease and death waning very little, ~90%. Additional benefits include cutting risk of infection by half and clearing the virus more quickly. Tonight at the dinner table skip the Jesus prayer. Instead, hold hands and give thanks to the scientific community.
the scientific community has failed us for 2 years now.
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