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Thread: When is it enough? Why do people wanna make more and more and more money?

post 1647945003 09-28-2021, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
$30k doesn't afford a nice house or used car.
A society where you are free doesn't exist. Unless you go buy a cheap ass plot in the middle of nowhere and figure out how to hunt/cook your food and build yourself a house.

But you won't do that because you are too comfortable with what you have so you can only moan on a forum. The free market is intrinsic to humans.


People make more and more money because they want to achieve something in life otherwise the brain feels a lack of purpose.

I simply suggest you pick a career that you like to make the journey more enjoyable and that can and will translate to higher wages.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
A society where you are free doesn't exist. Unless you go buy a cheap ass plot in the middle of nowhere and figure out how to hunt/cook your food and build yourself a house.

But you won't do that because you are too comfortable with what you have so you can only moan on a forum. The free market is intrinsic to humans.


People make more and more money because they want to achieve something in life otherwise the brain feels a lack of purpose.

I simply suggest you pick a career that you like to make the journey more enjoyable and that can and will translate to higher wages.
I'm not sure where you're going with your post, I made a simple statement; $30k doesn't afford a nice house or used car.

So how does earning $30k make you the 1% again? Unless you expect Americans to move overseas?
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I love money and being able to make it. Who doesn't want to make more money if they can?

When I closed on my commercial building while waiting for the fire dept to come perform their final building inspection for my occupancy certificate I was sitting there looking at duplexes and fourplexes for my next 'project'.

The chase is fun, the possibilities are exciting to think about, the acquisition is satisfying. I'm chasing my next high.

When I'm stagnant and unmotivated is when I find myself unhappy. Complacency is death.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Why are you bringing up the rest of the world? We can't take our $30,000/yr and live in any country we choose. Do you expect U.S. citizens to move overseas?

Rent near me is $1200 minimum, and it's not even a major city. Care to explain how any U.S. citizen is supposed to live off that?
Let me get this straight, I can’t pick anywhere in the world, but you can pick a specific place that has unusually high rent? And why is the rent high in that area? What education and skills do you have to offer employers in that area?
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
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more $$$ you got the hotter the hoe you can have
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
agree with the overall sentiment but wealth inequality data for poverty adjusts for age, surely, as it is normal for fresh outta mom n pop house broke college students to left-skew the graphs lol
They don’t adjust the demographics to show the least disparity, they do it to show the most disparity. When compared across-the-board with median age, all groups have their wealth gap‘s greatly reduced. When Democrats talk about the poor versus the rich, they are literally comparing a large demographic of the youth versus median age groups. That’s politics 101. This is why people need to be educated on economics
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
$30k doesn't afford a nice house or used car.
You avoided an entire post of facts to point this out. What does that say about your position?
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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I'm satisfied. I make good money and still live below means. It would take crazy money to make me consider living a different lifestyle. It's weird, just being able to buy something is enough now - (I don't have to have it)
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Originally Posted By DrFeeIGood⏩
I don't think people under 30-35 should be allowed to vote
This is why there’s a huge push for Democrats to get 16-year-olds to vote. they are easily propagandized, they are uneducated, inexperienced, and perfect for the job.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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It's never enough.

I remember thinking to myself when I was making 4-5k/mo, "man if I could just make $10k/mo I'd be killing it", once I hit $10k/mo that then became $15k, then $25k/mo, once I hit $50k/mo I wanted more. I've had been in the $40-50k/mo range for almost 2 years, now due to covid I'm in the 30k/mo range. I don't feel any worse or better being here, definitely have felt like I'm not working as hard I could be. I definitely stopped some careless spending just because I felt if I wasn't making what I was before, I shouldn't be recklessly spending like I had.

But it'll never be enough, you will always want more, making more made me happier. It wasn't exactly the financial impact, it was the achievement or success of hitting these $'s/goals I had set. As people have stated in this thread, it's almost the same as chasing that next high. But that next high requires a higher return/income.
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When people get raises they also typically increase costs of living. Intentionally or otherwise. They eat out more often, contemplate less as long when debating buying a new toy/item, sign up for subscriptions and let 'em keep going, get some cosmetic work done they'd otherwise accept without, etc. All the while inflation continues, rent goes up, etc.

The only magic method to combat this is to realistically self reflect after a month to look at your statements, and make changes from there. Cook at home more often. Get a job or company that gives consistent annual raises averaging around 3-5% or more. Lock in your rent rate via a mortgage. Etc.

In general there's also the idea of: "Man if I made just $20k more this year I can buy a new car outright". Not only that but people want to compete and be better or flashier than their friends and family.

To feel better about my income I like to look at the average and median household incomes for the country, for my state, for my age, and as long as I'm close, or above, I'll feel reassured that I'm not falling behind. Even if some people I know in my immediate vicinity are doing better.
post 1647950003 09-28-2021, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Visel⏩
When people get raises they also typically increase costs of living. Intentionally or otherwise. They eat out more often, contemplate less as long when debating buying a new toy/item, sign up for subscriptions and let 'em keep going, get some cosmetic work done they'd otherwise accept without, etc. All the while inflation continues, rent goes up, etc.

The only magic method to combat this is to realistically self reflect after a month to look at your statements, and make changes from there.Cook at home more often. Get a job or company that gives consistent annual raises averaging around 3-5% or more. Lock in your rent rate via a mortgage. Etc.

In general there's also the idea of: "Man if I made just $20k more this year I can buy a new car outright". Not only that but people want to compete and be better or flashier than their friends and family.

To feel better about my income I like to look at the average and median household incomes for the country, for my state, for my age, and as long as I'm close, or above, I'll feel reassured that I'm not falling behind. Even if some people I know in my immediate vicinity are doing better.


really makes you think a bit doesn't it...
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Originally Posted By DrFeeIGood⏩
Because having an average life keeps getting more and more expensive

Not real tea. Someone with that kinda budget shouldn’t be allowed to be make that kind of money. Unless they’re hiring me to do their chit. Then I’ll be richer than them ($9600 for two vehicles? Fkn can have two lambos for less than that)

Edit:
My bad actually on that one lol

I read that as a monthly payment
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Originally Posted By TryingBB⏩
Not real tea. Someone with that kinda budget shouldn’t be allowed to be make that kind of money. Unless they’re hiring me to do their chit. Then I’ll be richer than them ($9600 for two vehicles? Fkn can have two lambos for less than that)
You're going to get 2 lambos for less than $400/mo each payment?
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Originally Posted By TryingBB⏩
Not real tea. Someone with that kinda budget shouldn’t be allowed to be make that kind of money. Unless they’re hiring me to do their chit. Then I’ll be richer than them ($9600 for two vehicles? Fkn can have two lambos for less than that)
Honestly - that doesn't seem unrealistic.. 400 / mo a payment per car?
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
You're going to get 2 lambos for less than $400/mo each payment?
My bad actually on that one lol

I read that as a monthly payment
Originally Posted By littlemissy⏩
Honestly - that doesn't seem unrealistic.. 400 / mo a payment per car?
Edited my comment…my bad. Yep :-/
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Originally Posted By TryingBB⏩
My bad actually on that one lol

I read that as a monthly payment
Where they go wrong in definitely the charity, student loan debt, and childrens lessons... wtf.
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
Where they go wrong in definitely the charity, student loan debt, and childrens lessons... wtf.
this is a troll table

going by it 99% of people globally should rope right now
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I continue pushing mostly for the future, where I will be or could possibly be in 20 years. Need to be able to provide good lives for the woman/kids/dogs, give them all the advantages I can, accumulate land and property to keep in the family, etc etc

Do enjoy nice stuff but honestly don't even need much for myself, I'm super low maintenance and am mostly interested in building prosperity for my fam and future generations
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
$30,000 a year puts you in the 1% for the world. lol at 1% complaining about 1%ers. No perspective at all. Its the "haves and have somes". Perhaps anyone making over $10,000 a year should sacrice their pay to prove how virtuous they really are. Living life comfortably because of what the rich and private business owners provide for you. It's literally biting the hand that feeds you and gives you the nice life you have, because the alternative is socialism, which WILL put your pay in the 10k range while not hurting the elites.

again, socialism increases the disparity of rich and poor, and before sodalist ideals hit America, the gap was much smaller.
For fuks sakes you are by far the biggest cringe lord cuck in this whole gay dying Indian forum. Please dislodge the titanium rod that you have stuck up your ass and go suck some Austrian dick you weirdo.

Your mouth breather autism irritates me a lot
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Let me get this straight, I can’t pick anywhere in the world, but you can pick a specific place that has unusually high rent? And why is the rent high in that area? What education and skills do you have to offer employers in that area?
$1200 rent can be found across multiple states, not just specific areas. We're not talking about cities, we'll leave that out of the equation. I'm talking seemingly normal areas with nothing going on. Even rent in the South is going up. I look at Real Estate listings all day long. Why is it going up? I couldn't tell you, but you have to literally live in the middle of nowhere to afford rent on $30k. And if you live in the middle of nowhere, guess what? You're going to need a car for city jobs. So the money you saved on cheap rent is going towards car note, full coverage insurance, and gas.


99.9% of the misc considers $30k/yr poverty and will laugh in your face calling you a broke loser. So are you really gonna sit there and tell me with a straight face it's a good salary and affords a nice living?? That's $1800/month after taxes LMAOOO
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
I don't think so tbh because of the fact that he:

a) hates travelling to conferences where he can flex and sends his PhDs to present some ****

b) a lot of his work is materials engineer to make cars more environmentally friendly while not forcing big corp to change massively (****ty that this is how it must be but he plugged his **** into many car models)

c) his latest work is materials for medical devices


This mother****er wrote me a 9/10 reference and sent it at 3 AM because he also cares about the students who want to do good in the field. The only luxury thing he is buying is a cheap ass cabin in the woods with no electricity to read printed papers away from other people. He just really likes what he is researching. srs.
I was just trolling bro he actually sounds like a really cool professor to have. Nice from him for hooking you up with that reference and im miring his cabin goals. Sounds like the senex archetype 100%
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
It's never enough.

I remember thinking to myself when I was making 4-5k/mo, "man if I could just make $10k/mo I'd be killing it", once I hit $10k/mo that then became $15k, then $25k/mo, once I hit $50k/mo I wanted more. I've had been in the $40-50k/mo range for almost 2 years, now due to covid I'm in the 30k/mo range. I don't feel any worse or better being here, definitely have felt like I'm not working as hard I could be. I definitely stopped some careless spending just because I felt if I wasn't making what I was before, I shouldn't be recklessly spending like I had.

But it'll never be enough, you will always want more, making more made me happier. It wasn't exactly the financial impact, it was the achievement or success of hitting these $'s/goals I had set. As people have stated in this thread, it's almost the same as chasing that next high. But that next high requires a higher return/income.
I disagree. Plenty of boomers and folks of younger generations don't care about being rich. Their highlight is fishing, Kayaking, surfing, etc. For a lot of folks, money is a means to quit work. Overall happiness would go up for a lot of people if they could spend more time with their family and doing fun simple things.

Maybe it's the country boy in me, but I don't care about all that materialistic ****
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Yeah

After enough money for comfort security retirement etc anything above that is driven by ego.

And can be very destructive because ego and money can lead people into temptation and evil and degeneracy and crime.

Money played a big part in the destruction of my marriage and my life so I see money very differently now.
U will never even see the point where you have enough money for a comfortable retirement with that poverty mindset that money is not important
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
No time rn to look up the photos but just out of curiosity - they look more connected to nature and their Gods for sure.


AFAIK, societies like those still thrive on the free market - they have markets with currencies etc. The free market is as old as humans. That and consumerism are two distinct things. I live in Western Europe but I have detached myself from social media and the need to buy excessive stuff than the bare minimum to be functional.


Now just don't tell me what they fight each other to death for food weekly.


Edit: Bro, Latin America is a free market where you have to work to eat. Off-grid grow-it-yourself is just as available in the USA as in Mexico. A lot more people in Mexico are victims of violence and poverty that is unthinkable in the USA.
Actually all those tribes suffer because of capitalism. Big projects like mining and industrial logging are displacing them and literally killing them. Whenever they try to fight back against big capital destroying their ancestral lands the capitalists use paramilitary groups and cartels to kilk them off.

Look at the rate of homicides of environmental activists in Mexico, it's one of the most dangerous activities to do know in Mexico. They don't fight each other for food tbey fight against huge capitalist projects destroying their homes.

Google the EZLN group for example, they rebelles against the NAFTA agreement in 1994 because it would displace them, so they rebelled and raised an army to seize control of their lands from tbe hands of the government and neoliberalism. They succeeded and they still control vast areas of their state that they run more effectively through anarchy than the federal government.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
I disagree. Plenty of boomers and folks of younger generations don't care about being rich. Their highlight is fishing, Kayaking, surfing, etc. For a lot of folks, money is a means to quit work. Overall happiness would go up for a lot of people if they could spend more time with their family and doing fun simple things.

Maybe it's the country boy in me, but I don't care about all that materialistic ****
this


I'd rather be fishing than trying to hit bigger numbers for the sake of bigger numbers. More power to you number chasers though. Keep hustlin. I'm chillin srs
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah⏩
this


I'd rather be fishing than trying to hit bigger numbers for the sake of bigger numbers. More power to you number chasers though. Keep hustlin. I'm chillin srs
Das it bro, let those cucks work themselves to death over fake numbers
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
I disagree. Plenty of boomers and folks of younger generations don't care about being rich. Their highlight is fishing, Kayaking, surfing, etc. For a lot of folks, money is a means to quit work. Overall happiness would go up for a lot of people if they could spend more time with their family and doing fun simple things.

Maybe it's the country boy in me, but I don't care about all that materialistic ****
Again nothing materialistic about it. It's chasing the high. After $15k/mo you have all the materialistic things you realistically want. Or you can afford it if you choose to, so you don't buy it because you dont actually need it.

You get that excitement from reeling in a big fish, other people get it from day trading or closing a big deal, whatever it is. To some people that gives them the same result as your 'relaxing' or 'fun' activity.

I have plenty of fun things I do, but it doesn't change that my day still consist of wanting to 'make more' or 'do more'.
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