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01-20-2022, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
might be one reason why you needed shoulder surgery. Not chitting on your or anything. But behind the neck anything along with upright rows are terrible for your shoulders.You would have?
My Natty PRs
Bench 400
Behind neck push press 295
Mid thigh pull 665
All at 20 years of age. You would never have scratched those numbers.
My Natty PRs
Bench 400
Behind neck push press 295
Mid thigh pull 665
All at 20 years of age. You would never have scratched those numbers.
the glenoid fossa (where the humerus meets the shoulder) is angled forward at about 30-35 degrees so when you do behind the neck anything you are literally fighting your own anatomy and stressing your glenoid labrum, rear deltoid, rotator cuff, wrist (via dorsi flexion) and sometimes can even strain the long head of the biceps (rare though).
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
im sure the "mid thigh pull" was also done with a well braced core and lats and not rounding his back totally ****ing his spinemight be one reason why you needed shoulder surgery. Not chitting on your or anything. But behind the neck anything along with upright rows are terrible for your shoulders.

the glenoid fossa (where the humerus meets the shoulder) is angled forward at about 30-35 degrees so when you do behind the neck anything you are literally fighting your own anatomy and stressing your glenoid labrum, rear deltoid, rotator cuff, wrist (via dorsi flexion) and sometimes can even strain the long head of the biceps (rare though).
the glenoid fossa (where the humerus meets the shoulder) is angled forward at about 30-35 degrees so when you do behind the neck anything you are literally fighting your own anatomy and stressing your glenoid labrum, rear deltoid, rotator cuff, wrist (via dorsi flexion) and sometimes can even strain the long head of the biceps (rare though).
although the fact he did a mid thigh pull and still remembers it 30 years later says enough
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01-20-2022, 03:39 PM
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I believe you are an athlete OP, but if you never played in the pros you technically aren't an elite athlete.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
I hate to tell you this but those numbers are common for D1 football players.LOL no you didnt
you are one delusional old bird
you already going senile ? you catch covid and it cause some neurological issues?
you are one delusional old bird
you already going senile ? you catch covid and it cause some neurological issues?
Not exceptional. We had a freshman who benched 500.
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01-20-2022, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
Not sure if you know what a mid thigh pull is. Can you define it?im sure the "mid thigh pull" was also done with a well braced core and lats and not rounding his back totally ****ing his spine
although the fact he did a mid thigh pull and still remembers it 30 years later says enough
although the fact he did a mid thigh pull and still remembers it 30 years later says enough
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Originally Posted By Coal
its over for me for not knowing that guys life story? yeah ok. I mean, yeah gear really gives you a leg up but to attribute someones gains solely to gear is about the same as saying "You are only the CEO because you are a man. You didnt have to work for this position.Ion the other hand, a woman, had to work for everything i have. I was never given anything." Its just cop out argument.Join date: 2003. Shame you've been here for almost 20 years and not recognized the massive advantage test and the whole host of other drugs that guy consumes plays on performance. It's over for you.
I get that it IS cheating in the sense that you are getting to supraphysiologic levels that a natty cant get to, but if compare this to say, Raw bench press vs Equipped/FUKKING Heavy BP (just ignored for a second that heaviest BPers are juiced), its kind of the same. If you want a raw, heavy BP, then go down that path. If you want to be the BIGGEST BP'er in the world, then you wear a Bench Press shirt, wrist wraps, elbow wraps etc. It takes 2 different training methods for a natty lifter vs an enhanced just like a Raw BPer trains differently than max Gear equipped BPer. If you want an appollonian physisque, then go natty. If you want a herculean physique, then get some research chemicals.
Its kinda of crazy the duality of hate/admiration this stuff gets. WeLOVE it when athletes like Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong, Lebron, Shaq (yeah, they are DEF on the juice to stay competitive) are quietly juicing and setting records but when a BBer LOOKS unNatty, OMG....thats just not right and none of their hard can be attributed to them at all.
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01-20-2022, 03:46 PM
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01-20-2022, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
Sorry misread while at a stoplight.might be one reason why you needed shoulder surgery. Not chitting on your or anything. But behind the neck anything along with upright rows are terrible for your shoulders.

the glenoid fossa (where the humerus meets the shoulder) is angled forward at about 30-35 degrees so when you do behind the neck anything you are literally fighting your own anatomy and stressing your glenoid labrum, rear deltoid, rotator cuff, wrist (via dorsi flexion) and sometimes can even strain the long head of the biceps (rare though).
the glenoid fossa (where the humerus meets the shoulder) is angled forward at about 30-35 degrees so when you do behind the neck anything you are literally fighting your own anatomy and stressing your glenoid labrum, rear deltoid, rotator cuff, wrist (via dorsi flexion) and sometimes can even strain the long head of the biceps (rare though).
Behind the neck push press was required by the strength and conditioning coach. This was 1988 to 89 when it wasn't optional.
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01-20-2022, 04:02 PM
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01-20-2022, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
Stopped reading here because this dumb analogy debunks anything you said after. Love u man, u know this, but this comparison isn't remotely close. Test as well as the massive concoction of drugs that Testbrah and others take, catapults them to an entirely different dimension that natty brahs will never experience for one day, let alone for years on end.its over for me for not knowing that guys life story? yeah ok. I mean, yeah gear really gives you a leg up but to attribute someones gains solely to gear is about the same as saying "You are only the CEO because you are a man. .
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan⏩
Is that Paul Walker?This is the ideal male body. You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.


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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
it was an extremely easy decision for meits over for me for not knowing that guys life story? yeah ok. I mean, yeah gear really gives you a leg up but to attribute someones gains solely to gear is about the same as saying "You are only the CEO because you are a man. You didnt have to work for this position.Ion the other hand, a woman, had to work for everything i have. I was never given anything." Its just cop out argument.
I get that it IS cheating in the sense that you are getting to supraphysiologic levels that a natty cant get to, but if compare this to say, Raw bench press vs Equipped/FUKKING Heavy BP (just ignored for a second that heaviest BPers are juiced), its kind of the same. If you want a raw, heavy BP, then go down that path. If you want to be the BIGGEST BP'er in the world, then you wear a Bench Press shirt, wrist wraps, elbow wraps etc. It takes 2 different training methods for a natty lifter vs an enhanced just like a Raw BPer trains differently than max Gear equipped BPer. If you want an appollonian physisque, then go natty. If you want a herculean physique, then get some research chemicals.
Its kinda of crazy the duality of hate/admiration this stuff gets. WeLOVE it when athletes like Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong, Lebron, Shaq (yeah, they are DEF on the juice to stay competitive) are quietly juicing and setting records but when a BBer LOOKS unNatty, OMG....thats just not right and none of their hard can be attributed to them at all.
I get that it IS cheating in the sense that you are getting to supraphysiologic levels that a natty cant get to, but if compare this to say, Raw bench press vs Equipped/FUKKING Heavy BP (just ignored for a second that heaviest BPers are juiced), its kind of the same. If you want a raw, heavy BP, then go down that path. If you want to be the BIGGEST BP'er in the world, then you wear a Bench Press shirt, wrist wraps, elbow wraps etc. It takes 2 different training methods for a natty lifter vs an enhanced just like a Raw BPer trains differently than max Gear equipped BPer. If you want an appollonian physisque, then go natty. If you want a herculean physique, then get some research chemicals.
Its kinda of crazy the duality of hate/admiration this stuff gets. WeLOVE it when athletes like Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong, Lebron, Shaq (yeah, they are DEF on the juice to stay competitive) are quietly juicing and setting records but when a BBer LOOKS unNatty, OMG....thats just not right and none of their hard can be attributed to them at all.
I was 19
my test levels were 170
my choices were literally take the prescribed TRT and look the way I wanted
or don't
I chose to
Leoslayer can go fuk himself with his fat ass gut and twiggy arms and nonexitent thigh mass if he has a problem with that I would say it to his face and he wouldnt say a word back
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Originally Posted By Coal
imagine going on a bodybuilding forum for 16 years and still hating on anyone who does PED'sStopped reading here because this dumb analogy debunks anything you said after. Love u man, u know this, but this comparison isn't remotely close. Test as well as the massive concoction of drugs that Testbrah and others take, catapults them to an entirely different dimension that natty brahs will never experience for one day, let alone for years on end.
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Gonna break your ribs bouncing the bar like that.
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Originally Posted By poolshark472⏩
Mixed with Brad Pitt and Greg PlittIs that Paul Walker?
01-20-2022, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
Bro are u trolling or for real with this? If I told you that because of all the stuff you take you are far beyond what it feels like for a natural, especially an older one, to perform or even have the desire to perform as a young guy on a cocktail of drugs....would you believe me?it was an extremely easy decision for me
I was 19
my test levels were 170
my choices were literally take the prescribed TRT and look the way I wanted
or don't
I chose to
Leoslayer can go fuk himself with his fat ass gut and twiggy arms and nonexitent thigh mass if he has a problem with that I would say it to his face and he wouldnt say a word back
I was 19
my test levels were 170
my choices were literally take the prescribed TRT and look the way I wanted
or don't
I chose to
Leoslayer can go fuk himself with his fat ass gut and twiggy arms and nonexitent thigh mass if he has a problem with that I would say it to his face and he wouldnt say a word back
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Originally Posted By ElMarkino⏩
resemblance is uncanny



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Originally Posted By 1hardgainer⏩
The way I see it college athletes are at worst the top 1% of men in the US. Pro Athletes are top one tenth of one percent.I believe you are an athlete OP, but if you never played in the pros you technically aren't an elite athlete.
How many HS football players are there? 2 million 3million? More?
There's only about 5000 freshman football players at the D1 level and about 23000 total players including 5th year seniors.
So you have millions competing for only 5 to 8k spots.
The NFL boils that down to 1500ish total players including veterans so now you have 23k guys competing for maybe 300 to 800 spots.
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Originally Posted By Coal
would I believe something that is objective facts? of courseBro are u trolling or for real with this? If I told you that because of all the stuff you take you are far beyond what it feels like for a natural, especially an older one, to perform or even have the desire to perform as a young guy on a cocktail of drugs....would you believe me?
Doesn't change anything I said
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Originally Posted By eternalnoob⏩
How do you break ribs on incline?Gonna break your ribs bouncing the bar like that.
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01-20-2022, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
whats funny is I have friends who played for d1 schools and a couple who played in the nfl who ask me for lifting advice ALL the timeThe way I see it college athletes are at worst the top 1% of men in the US. Pro Athletes are top one tenth of one percent.
How many HS football players are there? 2 million 3million? More?
There's only about 5000 freshman football players at the D1 level and about 23000 total players including 5th year seniors.
So you have millions competing for only 5 to 8k spots.
The NFL boils that down to 1500ish total players including veterans so now you have 23k guys competing for maybe 300 to 800 spots.
How many HS football players are there? 2 million 3million? More?
There's only about 5000 freshman football players at the D1 level and about 23000 total players including 5th year seniors.
So you have millions competing for only 5 to 8k spots.
The NFL boils that down to 1500ish total players including veterans so now you have 23k guys competing for maybe 300 to 800 spots.
but you go on believing in your fantasy world Leo
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01-20-2022, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
I used to worship Kevin Levrone, Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray and especially Ronnie CoalMan which was the origin of my username. So trust me I'm extremely familiar with bodybuilding and in my early years accepted the negatives to health until I finally got older and wiser and realized how actually young and stupid I was. In the end, the most important thing we have is our health. Roidcels will never understand until it's too late. RIP Testbrah.imagine going on a bodybuilding forum for 16 years and still hating on anyone who does PED's
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
Why wouldn't I say a word back?it was an extremely easy decision for me
I was 19
my test levels were 170
my choices were literally take the prescribed TRT and look the way I wanted
or don't
I chose to
Leoslayer can go fuk himself with his fat ass gut and twiggy arms and nonexitent thigh mass if he has a problem with that I would say it to his face and he wouldnt say a word back
I was 19
my test levels were 170
my choices were literally take the prescribed TRT and look the way I wanted
or don't
I chose to
Leoslayer can go fuk himself with his fat ass gut and twiggy arms and nonexitent thigh mass if he has a problem with that I would say it to his face and he wouldnt say a word back
You are the equivalent of a hot chick phucking her way to the top and then wondering why the people actually working on their own merit scoffs at her.
No difference.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Yeah I am sure thats what it is, I am sure you have more hours spent in the gym, more time spent dedicated to meal prepping, have way more knowledge on supplements, nutrition, and proper biomechanics and lifting execution than I do, probably know more fitness pros and celebrities than me as well, you are right its all because OJ and not at all because of my own hustle, knowledge, and experience.Why wouldn't I say a word back?
You are the equivalent of a hot chick phucking her way to the top and then wondering why the people actually working on their own merit scoffs at her.
No difference.
You are the equivalent of a hot chick phucking her way to the top and then wondering why the people actually working on their own merit scoffs at her.
No difference.
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Originally Posted By Coal
I get my blood done 5-6 times a year and keep very good oversight on my health. Serious.I used to worship Kevin Levrone, Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray and especially Ronnie CoalMan which was the origin of my username. So trust me I'm extremely familiar with bodybuilding and in my early years accepted the negatives to health until I finally got older and wiser and realized how actually young and stupid I was. In the end, the most important thing we have is our health. Roidcels will never understand until it's too late. RIP Testbrah.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
That’s not 190kgYou're damn straight most of you can't squat 190 for a 1rm
01-20-2022, 04:34 PM
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01-20-2022, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
Not gonna hate at all. Keep on top of your blood work brah, I'd wish for you to have a long and fulfilling life.I get my blood done 5-6 times a year and keep very good oversight on my health. Serious.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Lmao yeah I guess it makes average numbers sound more impressiveThe real world uses pounds.
Kilos are for **** gots.
Kilos are for **** gots.
Kind of like quoting your salary in dollars instead of pounds sterling
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