Social constructs will certainly have an effect on a humans behavior (as I had mentioned as well as yourself)

But what happens when those social constructs become less binding or become non-existent?

This is what you are seeing nowadays with most young women and how they mate select

They used to be bound by a heavy social construct to not have sex until marriage, so most women wouldn't

As soon as that social construct is removed, women have gone back to their instincts which essentially is to have sex with top tier males, ignoring lesser men until it's time to get security for their children

Was at a party/game night last night, a good amount of single women were talking about dating and I joined the conversation.

They all agreed that any man over 35 who's still single must have issues and wouldnt consider dating him.

the misc delusion that you're all going to be george clooney silver foxes was always a stupid idea that isnt real tea.

have fun dying alone

If you are blindly betting on someone who is single at 35+ being damaged goods, man or woman, you would be more likely to win the bet if you bet yes they are damaged goods.

With that said, being single at 35+ as a woman is a far greater failure than as a man, because you're basically done as an option to start a family. You can only have a serious relationship with divorced guys who already have kids, or man children who don't want kids because that means one less room in their house for their Funko Pop collection.

Look at it this way, you meet 35+ woman at the gym. Invade her space and trick her to go on a date with you. Unless you're insane, the earliest you'll move into together and be fake married is 1 year. More likely, 2 or more. Then you have to try to have kids. At that age, it doesn't just happen instantly. Then once you or her boyfriend knocks her up, there is a much greater chance of complications with older people having kids (older guy+younger girl might be okay as long as you don't mind your sperm possibly having one too many chromosomes, but older guy+younger girl=danger zone). She may not carry the pregnancy to completion, then you have to try again,

So you're looking at her pumping out the kid at 37 or 38, and that's at the earliest with the two of you expediting the relationship because you're both old as **** and out of time.

Guys being physically attractive is obviously extremely important too, but there are other things that women are attracted to for long term partners like masculinity, stability, career, personality (yuck), etc. Guys are attracted to things other than looks and youth, but looks and youth play a much bigger part in what a guy looks for in a girl. Any 35-40 year old guy who says he wouldn't prefer a 20-25 year old is lying, because it's easy to say that and look good when you'll never actually have a 20-25 year old be attracted to you. It's like the guys who insult Tiger Woods for cheating, but will never have to face a Harem of 10/10s chasing after them. It's false integrity.

Yes in more modern times we have forced monogamy which gives to opportunity for men who never would have reproduced to do so

However, if we actually dna tested every child, we'd find that many of these men are not actually the father



You seem to be claiming that all the men you personally know, if given $150million dollars today (and were physically attractive themselves) would not exercise options and end up banging some young fertile 18-25 yr olds

If for whatever reason that man decided to not do so, it would be a conscience choice or restraint, fighting his natural instinct to not bang those young fertile women

He is following a fabricated societal construct and abandoning his natural sexual imperative

Biologically speaking he is hindering his success to pass on his genes with the highest chance of survival

he didnt say 18 thought he said early to mid 20's.

lol i just gave you an example where they said monogamy came about 3.5 million years ago.

zero chance this is true

They just mad because most single 35 year old men only date girls in their early to mid 20s. Females coping Lmao

You're naive if you think you can fully control your instincts (and especially be fulfilled on top of that).

You're constantly being driven by basic instinct. All day long.

If you are not acting upon your most basic desires then by definition you are in full control of them and finding meaning beyond satisfying your superficial carnal temptations will prove to be more fulfilling than your 5 second orgasm.

Imagine trusting what women say and not what they do



What a Reddit tier post

There is no mental gymnastics, except in your head...

0.75 year is less than 1 year.

Not sure how you are trying to argue against that.

If you still think that's true, meaning 9 months is the same as 12, I propose the following experiment:

Paypal me $100, and I'll Paypal you back $75. Then let's keep doing that, since they are the same, right?

About the bolded, I'll again flip it on you... Find a woman who has not conceived before today (April 20th 2022), and see if can birth just one pregnancy before May 20th 2022 (without premature births ).

See how stupid you look now?

But I guess I shouldn't expect much, before this educational episode began for you, you thought the general gestation for women was 12 months.

lol i just gave you an example where they said monogamy came about 3.5 million years ago. some anthropologists have said that it went away then came back. but the time period it went away was like 1k years ago. again, this is in their theory

that would mean for the vast majority of time or vast majority of our evolution we've been monogamous. or rather, at least "true nature" appears to be more monogamous. e.g. monogamous for 3.49 million years and non for 1k

anyways, we agree a little bit but like i said just because you want something doesn't mean it's "human nature"; "human nature" could also be describe in your ability to control your wants

also, since you like cutting edge theories, just to throw a wrench into your "human nature" proposal. where does birth control rank in "human nature"; how could you describe birth control in terms of human nature? is birth control human nature?

Your classification of "basic desires" sounds way too narrow. I think you mean resisting temptations or delaying gratification. We do have a system for that - Haidt describes it as System 1 and 2.

Your desire to survive is a basic instinct, to be with family, friends, find a companion, do well in your career, take a picture of your abs for a forum to fuel ego.