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post 1663621673 06-29-2022, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By NMH⏩
Mirin', on that OJ time sir?
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Originally Posted By NMH⏩
The above video lays it out pretty good but I had a consultation with an HRT clinic and wanted to go the natural route before any TRT or anything that would shut you down for life and they recommended the protocol.



600 mg
If thus was laid out by a clinic I'm interested

I'm 56 ,my ins comes and goes ,if I get on trt and lose ins I'm fkd


How much of each daily


600 tonga

Then what

Is this long term ,you gota get blood work ?
post 1663623873 06-29-2022, 09:39 AM
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Shouldn't Free Test be more relevant with Tongkat? Did you test that?
post 1663623883 06-29-2022, 09:40 AM
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also check for liver numbers.
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Yeah,no thanx on fadogia

But 600mg tongat and 9 mg boron I may give a shot

Make sure there isn't boron in your multi ,there is 3 mg in mine so only gota add 6mg


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Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
If thus was laid out by a clinic I'm interested

I'm 56 ,my ins comes and goes ,if I get on trt and lose ins I'm fkd


How much of each daily


600 tonga

Then what

Is this long term ,you gota get blood work ?
9 mg boron, 600 mg tongkat, 600 mg fadogia, I also added in NOW nettle root 500 mg. I took bloodwork before then did 2.5ish months on and did bloodwork again last week.
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Shouldn't Free Test be more relevant with Tongkat? Did you test that?
Yes sir, free test increased 10 points. LH, FSH both increased significantly as well and SHBG dropped 25 pts. IGF levels increased as well
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also check for liver numbers.
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post 1663632393 06-29-2022, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
Yeah,no thanx on fadogia

But 600mg tongat and 9 mg boron I may give a shot

Make sure there isn't boron in your multi ,there is 3 mg in mine so only gota add 6mg


Cliffs of video? I'll have to check it out later
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post 1663632753 06-29-2022, 12:34 PM
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Don’t understand why people waste their money on garbage otc supps when tried and true vitamin T is so cheap and easily available.
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post 1663633173 06-29-2022, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
Don’t understand why people waste their money on garbage otc supps when tried and true vitamin T is so cheap and easily available.
Unless you have kids already or don't want them, then blast away. Maybe when I'm 40 and done having kids but not now
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post 1663633393 06-29-2022, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By NMH⏩
Unless you have kids already or don't want them, then blast away. Maybe when I'm 40 and done having kids but not now
It’s called clomid/HCG.
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post 1663633873 06-29-2022, 12:57 PM
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Fukin lmao at listening to Huberman. The king of taking a single paper and extrapolating big claims out of it. And the JRE morons gobble it down without questioning a thing

test levels fluctuate hour to hour and day to day by more than that amount
post 1663636493 06-29-2022, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
It’s called clomid/HCG.
Not guaranteed to work
Originally Posted By AshWar⏩
Fukin lmao at listening to Huberman. The king of taking a single paper and extrapolating big claims out of it. And the JRE morons gobble it down without questioning a thing

test levels fluctuate hour to hour and day to day by more than that amount
Literally everything I tested came back better after 3 months using the supps recommended to me by a doctor, didn't only have my total T tested. The video was for an example. Who said I took that without questioning anything, lol at calling every JRE podcast listener a moron..
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post 1663637083 06-29-2022, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted By NMH⏩
Not guaranteed to work
Infertility is such a small risk, especially if it’s reasonable doseages and time off/on. Just odd for that to be the determining factor as you’re a-ok downing comparatively unproven and unstudied garbage supps lol.
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post 1663637753 06-29-2022, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By NMH⏩
Not guaranteed to work



Literally everything I tested came back better after 3 months using the supps recommended to me by a doctor, didn't only have my total T tested. The video was for an example. Who said I took that without questioning anything, lol at calling every JRE podcast listener a moron..
What was the Dr's suggested protocol, I've read yiu should do 5 on 2 off ,or 2 weeks ,1 week with boron
post 1663638123 06-29-2022, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
Infertility is such a small risk, especially if it’s reasonable doseages and time off/on. Just odd for that to be the determining factor as you’re a-ok downing comparatively unproven and unstudied garbage supps lol.
You don't take time off on TRT.. there's plenty of studies with positive results and results showing increases in fertility factors, not the other way around as with testosterone. As long as I keep seeing positive results backed up with my full blood profiles going in positive directions, I'll continue what I'm doing. It's effectively a study on myself and it's working well so far
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post 1663638323 06-29-2022, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
What was the Dr's suggested protocol, I've read yiu should do 5 on 2 off ,or 2 weeks ,1 week with boron
- Boron 9-10mg every morning
- Tongkat Ali 600mg in the morning
- Nettle root extract dosed per the label
- Fadogia 600mg once per day, 4 weeks on 1 off repeat. All others can be taken indefinitely
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post 1663639553 06-29-2022, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By NMH⏩
You don't take time off on TRT.. there's plenty of studies with positive results and results showing increases in fertility factors, not the other way around as with testosterone. As long as I keep seeing positive results backed up with my full blood profiles going in positive directions, I'll continue what I'm doing. It's effectively a study on myself and it's working well so far
You do you man, just doesn’t make much sense to me when there are so many better options out there.
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Originally Posted By NMH⏩
- Boron 9-10mg every morning
- Tongkat Ali 600mg in the morning
- Nettle root extract dosed per the label
- Fadogia 600mg once per day, 4 weeks on 1 off repeat. All others can be taken indefinitely
Why do you cycle fadogia, if it's just an herb?
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
You do you man, just doesn’t make much sense to me when there are so many better options out there.
I just don’t want to be married to the needle at this point in my life is all
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Why do you cycle fadogia, if it's just an herb?
Not sure, he didn’t give an exact reason but I’ll see if I can find out
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Originally Posted By AshWar⏩
Fukin lmao at listening to Huberman. The king of taking a single paper and extrapolating big claims out of it. And the JRE morons gobble it down without questioning a thing

test levels fluctuate hour to hour and day to day by more than that amount
I think most of us don't believe most of what Joe or anyone on that show says. It's just something easy to put on in the background.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
That's pretty normal variance. Really need multiple tests to get a more accurate idea of your levels.


Could simple be the difference in quality of sleep week leading up to test. Even weather has an affect.


Tldr: one test doesn't mean chit
strong this. drawing blood for the test panel at different times of the day can create that kind of deviation. I do hope your chit is working though. Seems to be at least a placebo effect based on how you said you feel.
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Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
Yeah,no thanx on fadogia

But 600mg tongat and 9 mg boron I may give a shot

Make sure there isn't boron in your multi ,there is 3 mg in mine so only gota add 6mg


Glad I seen this video before ordering. Repped. (Ded fkn Srs)
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Originally Posted By NMH⏩
I just don’t want to be married to the needle at this point in my life is all



Not sure, he didn’t give an exact reason but I’ll see if I can find out
It's because it's toxic to your body, especially the liver and kidneys. (Ded fkn Srs)
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Can you ask your Dr about this

https://crazybulk.com/blogs/suppleme...ion-and-dosage

Excess estrogen?
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Weird man I'm 31 and know I have high test and always have in general. Everyone goes through small patches of test fluctuation.

The biggest factors are easily sleep, food, and exercise. That alone will decide the general testosterone level for men besides maybe negative stressors and maybe fapping too much/pron.

Some of these things may be good short term to help, but why not focus on optimizing the main things?
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
Don’t understand why people waste their money on garbage otc supps when tried and true vitamin T is so cheap and easily available.
Can you tell me a little more about it? First time hearing about it, had no idea you can straight up buy testosterone pills. How does it compare to TRT injections?
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Originally Posted By Amp30⏩
Can you tell me a little more about it? First time hearing about it, had no idea you can straight up buy testosterone pills. How does it compare to TRT injections?
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test went from 300 to 1500 just had to pin once a week
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