11-06-2022, 09:41 AM
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870 was the first shotgun i owned and still love it
very decent for the price
very decent for the price
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11-06-2022, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
You can clear rooms with a standard 16" AR. It's not impossible contrary to what people believe but I feel you.I don’t believe any long gun is good for CQB unless you’re trained. Corners will kill you faster with a long gun, and take longer to put on a target.
OP only buy the Remington if you're getting it for a purpose. I think they're great shottys personally.
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11-06-2022, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted By akmerle⏩
No. You should never, ever, ever use birdshot for defensive purposes, ever. There are minimum penetration standards for duty loads in all firearms for a reason.But for home defense ranges and situations, doesn’t it make bird shot the ideal load in terms of effective range and over penetration?
The best way to avoid overpenetration is to use the gun that gives you the highest probability of the round going into your target.
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11-06-2022, 09:52 AM
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870 or Mossberg 500. Either is a good choice. I have a mossberg 500 tactical with a light and a knoxx stock, my brother has an 870. I've shot both. The 870 is nicer, but I'm fine with mine.
I prefer an AR-15. It's just a more versatile gun.
If you do get a shotgun, go shoot it. You would never want the first time firing one to be in a life and death situation. They are loud as fak, and the recoil is going to startle you the first time you pull the trigger. First time I shot a 12 gauge I immediately turned into a little bitch. After firing 20 or so rounds, you'll feel a lot more comfortable with one.
I prefer an AR-15. It's just a more versatile gun.
If you do get a shotgun, go shoot it. You would never want the first time firing one to be in a life and death situation. They are loud as fak, and the recoil is going to startle you the first time you pull the trigger. First time I shot a 12 gauge I immediately turned into a little bitch. After firing 20 or so rounds, you'll feel a lot more comfortable with one.
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11-06-2022, 10:00 AM
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11-06-2022, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
Please dont listen to this guy, an AR-15 platform (especially a SBR) can be much better than a pistol or shotgun platform. Legit lol'd at the thought of this guy getting an 870, loading it with slugs and then thinking he's good to go.yes 870's are tried and true been around since 1950 everyone should have an 870
dont use an ar for home defense because you will shoot through multiple layers of drywall and kill your neighbor
dont use an ar for home defense because you will shoot through multiple layers of drywall and kill your neighbor
The first issue if youre worried about collateral damage is to choose the correct round.For example, for home defense I only use hollow points. People telling you to use shotguns dont really know what theyre talking about- unless you've got a long hallway (or fatal funnel) and are sitting there waiting for them you'll want to have use a SBR, pistol or both depending on time constraints. The 5.56/.223 round drops FPS when it makes contact faster than a dirty whore drops their panties, if anything a 9mm FMJ round will penetrate more walls.
The Mossberg/Remingtons are great for breaching, though.
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11-06-2022, 10:14 AM
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Picked up a Mossberg 500 Thunder Ranch edition a few years back. With a short 18.5" barrel and door breacher-type muzzle it makes for an intimidating presence.


11-06-2022, 10:28 AM
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11-06-2022, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Not sure what you’re arguing against in my post.This is backwards thinking. A novice defending themselves isn't assaulting an unfamiliar building. The benefits of a firearm that is easily aimed, controlled, and trained on massively outweigh the maneuverability gained at the cost of reducing lethality/accuracy.
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11-06-2022, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
Absolutes make for poor arguments.You can clear rooms with a standard 16" AR. It's not impossible contrary to what people believe but I feel you.
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11-06-2022, 10:34 AM
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ITT brahs talk about home defense when OP specifically said he's not buying a shotgun for home defense.
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11-06-2022, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
AR is a better gun to own unless you’re taking up clays/trap or bird huntingITT brahs talk about home defense when OP specifically said he's not buying a shotgun for home defense.
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11-06-2022, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Reread for content?Not sure what you’re arguing against in my post.
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11-06-2022, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
I just picked up one of these. 7" barrel easier to wield around inside the house than a standard 16" ARPlease dont listen to this guy, an AR-15 platform (especially a SBR) can be much better than a pistol or shotgun platform. Legit lol'd at the thought of this guy getting an 870, loading it with slugs and then thinking he's good to go.
The first issue if youre worried about collateral damage is to choose the correct round.For example, for home defense I only use hollow points. People telling you to use shotguns dont really know what theyre talking about- unless you've got a long hallway (or fatal funnel) and are sitting there waiting for them you'll want to have use a SBR, pistol or both depending on time constraints. The 5.56/.223 round drops FPS when it makes contact faster than a dirty whore drops their panties, if anything a 9mm FMJ round will penetrate more walls.
The Mossberg/Remingtons are great for breaching, though.
The first issue if youre worried about collateral damage is to choose the correct round.For example, for home defense I only use hollow points. People telling you to use shotguns dont really know what theyre talking about- unless you've got a long hallway (or fatal funnel) and are sitting there waiting for them you'll want to have use a SBR, pistol or both depending on time constraints. The 5.56/.223 round drops FPS when it makes contact faster than a dirty whore drops their panties, if anything a 9mm FMJ round will penetrate more walls.
The Mossberg/Remingtons are great for breaching, though.

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11-06-2022, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
https://www.theboxotruth.com/threads....310/#post-984yes 870's are tried and true been around since 1950 everyone should have an 870
dont use an ar for home defense because you will shoot through multiple layers of drywall and kill your neighbor
dont use an ar for home defense because you will shoot through multiple layers of drywall and kill your neighbor
Cliffs, 00 buck and 5.56 both go through drywall equivalent to at least four interior walls. If you fire rounds in your house, they may stop, but because they hit a stud or other object like your fridge, door frame, microwave, etc. They also may be stopped by exterior brick walls.
If you have to shoot someone in your house, shoot accurately. You can do some clever things to mitigate misses though. In my house anyway I sleep on the left side of the bed because if I were on the right side and shooting at the bedroom door, the dogs' crate would be in the line of fire.
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11-06-2022, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Tunechii⏩
5.56 AR15 should be your next purchase.i got a glock 19 recently and im instantly hooked on guns now. Lookin to add a shotgun next, what we think of the 870 brahs? Not really buyin it for any purpose but for fun, will use glizzy for home defense
as for the 870, its a great shotgun, but i prefer the mossberg 590.
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
try running an ACOG TA31 on your 5.56 AR.Screw fancy scopes, iron sights are fast as hell and accurate enough if you practice.
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