I don't get how OP is green. He's pro vax mandate too.

No one said to ban anything. Should we discourage excessive eating due to health problems obesity causes by informing people? YES

Would America be better off if fatasses ate less pizza and other trash food? YES.

We need to establish Metabo Law here, fines for obese people and using that money to subsidize healthy eating programs and weight loss coaching. Increasing fines if they refuse to lose weight each year even.

Increase taxes on garbage food, processed food is NOT always cheaper that's just an excuse to not cook. rice, veggies, chicken and lean beef cuts are still plenty cheap it's just that fat people are lazy and aren't satisfied by clean foods.

We have ****ing TV shows showing how disgusting it is to live as a fat ass piece of chit or a hoarder and people still do it, it's a form of entertainment

We need to establish Metabo Law here, fines for obese people and using that money to subsidize healthy eating programs and weight loss coaching. Increasing fines if they refuse to lose weight each year even.

Increase taxes on garbage food, processed food is NOT always cheaper that's just an excuse to not cook. rice, veggies, chicken and lean beef cuts are still plenty cheap it's just that fat people are lazy and aren't satisfied by clean foods.

We have ****ing TV shows showing how disgusting it is to live as a fat ass piece of chit or a hoarder and people still do it, it's a form of entertainment

What about a campaign against excessive caffeine use? Energy drinks and pre-workouts used to be 150-200 milligrams of caffeine.

Now we're pushing it with 300-400 milligrams, and people are drinking that **** twice a day now.

Obese people should be thrown into labor camps until they get down to an acceptable weight. Said labor camps could also be used to produce/manufacture some shyt, thereby also increasing our GDP.

Good point about caffeinecels, tbh.

I'm not gonna lie, I was a caffeinecel when I was young. Consuming 600mg+ in a day wasn't super uncommom for me, especially on gym days when I wanted to get the hardesr workouts possible in (I cycled working out with caffeine and without, didn't just down it before every single gym session like a moron). That being said, I was always able to go days without it with no problems, and I cut way back on stims in general in my 30's.

Then, I see these dudes at work in their 30's - 50's who brag about how they seldom need more than 5 or 6 hours of sleep a day most of the time. Meanwhile, those same guys are dowming 3 huge mega sized cups of coffee a day, drinking "caffeine water" (I chit you not, there are retards who buy this water infused with 120mg caffeine or wharever), and so forth.

Also, try telling them about how they can spend 1/10th of the money by just buying some Stay Awake caffeine tabs at the same gas stations they get their energy drinks and other bullchit sources of caffeine from (without all the bs like having to piss like a race horse, having stinky coffee breath and nasty coffee piss), and they never learn. Because it's as much about them wanting to think there is something special about their insanely priced pre-caffinated beverages as it is about them actually being caffeinecels.

These tactics are so incredibly smooth brained.

Ad hominems, straw mans arguing I'm trying to ban things, trying to derail, demanding proof current alcohol conumption levels are bad for society (lmfao really?)

Ultimately, you're all trying to argue the people shouldn't be informed of the health risks of alcohol. It's laughable.

Engaging with wincel is always pretty pointless, tbh. All he ever does is get pissy and scream at people. This dude literally just posted a video of a Democrat congressman showing what a massive dumbassss he was in front of congress while speaking to a U.S. military general to prove a point about America electing idiots to office, yet he can't see how immensely ironic that is coming from a raging liberal like himself.

Simple thought experiment. You hate Trump and think he's an idiot right? But, if Trump was in charge of a large company, it would run. If Trump was in charge of a country, it would run. Perhaps they would run better under someone else, perhaps a lot better. But the bottom line is, they would run and basically function. No matter how much you hate Trump, you can't deny that because he has empirically done it.

If you put someone like yourself who can't even hold down a job in charge of a large company or country. Would it not be fair to assume that the company would go bankrupt and the country would turn into a 3rd world chithole like Haiti? That's why your opinion on public policy is a joke.

We need to establish Metabo Law here, fines for obese people and using that money to subsidize healthy eating programs and weight loss coaching. Increasing fines if they refuse to lose weight each year even.

Increase taxes on garbage food, processed food is NOT always cheaper that's just an excuse to not cook. rice, veggies, chicken and lean beef cuts are still plenty cheap it's just that fat people are lazy and aren't satisfied by clean foods.

We have ****ing TV shows showing how disgusting it is to live as a fat ass piece of chit or a hoarder and people still do it, it's a form of entertainment

You're right. I replaced alcohol with cheese pizza and it totally is the same! Even the part where if I eat too much cheese pizza and drive I might kill a family! Who knew cheese pizza could cause so much havoc?

Pretty sure if you tried this, Gravy Seals and the USKFC like Dave would overthrow the govt.

When you are young and partying it is fun, after 25yrs. no reason to be drinking.

You're claiming people aren't informed? We're not told about the dangers of drinking in health class?

That people can't type in "The dangers of alcohol" with Google?

aren't there studies saying low consumption = heart benefits

def. reduces anxiety which would lead to heart benefits i think

i understand im just saying the underlying principle that is being shown is the overconsumption of alcohol

1 drink doesn't put you into the dui territory. therefore you wouldn't get a dui - which again seems one of the only ways you could discern "overconsumption"

you take alcohol as a substance. it becomes a problem when you drink too much
you take cheese as a substance, it becomes a problem when you eat too much

Those studies have been debunked btw. The current consensus in medicine is that there is no beneficial level, i e, the lower the consumption, the better.

People always want to equate "disease" with only being things like Cancer or Diabetes, and that calling it a "disease" is a way to just excuse it away...No labeling it a disease (genetic component, brain abnormality, etc.) is a way to admit that it's something that needs to be taken seriously instead of just "more willpower bro", "just drink in moderation bro", etc. It's the same sort of thing with Step 1 in AA - people get so wound up about the "powerless" wording but the point is if you're an addict it's something to take fuking seriously and that you aren't going to casually halfass your way to long term sobriety.

Why does Wincel think he knows what's best for society when he can't even accomplish basic adult functions like holding down a job or dating a girl? Wincel is the worst case of Dunning-Kruger I've ever seen.

P.S. Ratfish thinks he's a bodybuilding expert which is #2 Dunning-Kruger.

aren't there studies saying low consumption = heart benefits

def. reduces anxiety which would lead to heart benefits i think

100% malarkey. through experience. why do you think its more "fun". people open up because anxiety is reduced. honestly, this is something you dont know about if you've never had it

it def. reduces stress

but i do see the other side if you consume too much; the "depressant" aspects

even through my own experiences though. if i had a fun night out it would outweigh the hangover in the morning

anyways, i havent seen the studies. guess i should

I had issues with alcohol for years and quit cold turkey about a year ago now. So yeah, I lol at people who equate it with diseases. It's not a fkn disease when you can cure it by putting the damn bottle down. I lol even harder when alcoholics try to convince me. Just because they don't have the same fortitude to make the positive life choice to quit doesn't make their situation unique or special.

I had issues with alcohol for years and quit cold turkey about a year ago now. So yeah, I lol at people who equate it with diseases. It's not a fkn disease when you can cure it by putting the damn bottle down. I lol even harder when alcoholics try to convince me. Just because they don't have the same fortitude to make the positive life choice to quit doesn't make their situation unique or special.

aren't there studies saying low consumption = heart benefits

def. reduces anxiety which would lead to heart benefits i think

Good point about caffeinecels, tbh.

I see these dudes at work in their 30's - 50's who brag about how they seldom need more than 5 or 6 hours of sleep a day most of the time. Meanwhile, those same guys are downing 3 huge mega sized cups of coffee a day, 2 - 4 energy drinks a day, drinking "caffeine water" (I chit you not, there are retards who buy this water infused with 120mg caffeine or wharever), and so forth.

Also, try telling them about how they can spend 1/10th of the money by just buying some Stay Awake caffeine tabs at the same gas stations they get their energy drinks and other bullchit sources of caffeine from (without all the bs like having to piss like a race horse, having stinky coffee breath and nasty coffee piss), and they never learn. Because it's as much about them wanting to think there is something special about their insanely priced pre-caffinated beverages as it is about them actually being caffeinecels.

Kind of seems like you just want to jerk yourself off here. Also, again...you're doing that thing I pointed out - equating it being labeled a "disease" with that automatically being used as an excuse to not get sober, instead of a reason to take it more seriously.

I sound like I'm "jerking myself off"? I've always said that equating alcoholism to diseases was fkn stupid, including when I still drank and coped about it like every other drinker does. Still never found the "it's a diseeeeseeeaaaaase" arguement to be very compelling.