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post 1678818593 03-12-2023, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
ROFLMFAOOOOO! I'm dying over here.. Ab. So. Lutely. Fuking dying! Fuking wincel.. Gets spun up hard AF whenever the sacred Rona or Fauci is disrespected lol.. If he's done it once he's done it fifty times or more! You can't even buy entertainment like this!

You guys unironically post about killing a guy who has spent his whole life helping this country. I mean it when I say kill yourself. I want you people to die before you harm others.
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Originally Posted By gwg77
BBC is correct. The only thing you are correct about is when you say lab leak is broader than "made in a lab". And that is why BBC is correct, because lab leak includes both unaltered and engineered virus theories. Always been that way.

Sorry this ain't working out for you.


Just LOL @ natural origins lab leak. Who the fuсk says that?

You and Fauci are fuсking morons.
I mean you just agreed that calling it a lab leak tells you nothing about the origin of the virus. If so, "natural origin lab leak" makes perfect sense. Checkmate, Cornell.

BBC is wrong as usual. Just like they are wrong about nazis in Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
You guys unironically post about killing a guy who has spent his whole life helping this country. I mean it when I say kill yourself. I want you people to die before you harm others.
Shhhhh... no tears now winnie. You had to know you couldn't keep your sacred Rona forever didn't you?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
Shhhhh... no tears now winnie. You had to know you couldn't keep your sacred Rona forever didn't you?
You guys are the ones crying and advocating the murder of public health officials simply because they asked you to take a shot and wear a mask. Talk about entitled Karens. I can't wait for the economic collapse and for when SHTF. You guys will throw such a tantrum it will be hilarious. Finally the death of American hubris will come when the streets run red with the blood of Y'all Qaeda and all the rich entitled Starbucks swine. I can't wait. I'm getting erect just thinking about it. And when it is all over,





May these great civilizations that suffered so much finally have some peace.

We were not good stewards. 251 military interventions since 1991. Millions of lives ruined. All so you dumb worthless pieces of chit can attack science and spread lies.

I mean this sincerely. I hope every one of your lives are ruined, your fortunes lost, and your arrogance punished with the most extreme brutality imaginable.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
I mean you just agreed that calling it a lab leak tells you nothing about the origin of the virus. If so, "natural origin lab leak" makes perfect sense. Checkmate, Cornell.

BBC is wrong as usual. Just like they are wrong about nazis in Ukraine.
Wrong. There is no such thing as natural origin lab leak. You're a fuсking idiot.

The debate has always been natural spillover vs laboratory spillover.

Even Dr. Ralph Baric and 17 other scientists acknowledge exactly what I am saying in their Science Magazine letter calling for more investigations:
Theories of accidental release from a lab and zoonotic spillover both remain viable.

We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abj0016




Fauci, being the usual liar that he is, tried moving the goalposts on what the definition of lab leak means. Everyone is laughing at him. You're the only idiot trying to defend his stupidity.
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Originally Posted By gwg77
Wrong. There is no such thing as natural origin lab leak. You're a fuсking idiot.

The debate has always been natural spillover vs laboratory spillover.

Even Dr. Ralph Baric and 17 other scientists acknowledge exactly what I am saying in their Science Magazine letter calling for more investigations:





https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abj0016




Fauci, being the usual liar that he is, tried moving the goalposts on what the definition of lab leak means. Everyone is laughing at him. You're the only idiot trying to defend his stupidity.
You just said "lab leak" is broader than "made in a lab". That means saying something is a lab leak doesn't exclude the possibility of it being of natural origin. So the alternative to it being a lab leak is it being not a lab leak, which would mean natural origin but not related to being leaked from a lab. If it were a lab leak, it could be natural origin or man made. The former would be a natural origin lab leak.

Natural spillover means something different from natural origin, Cornell. It's a specific case of natural origin. You could have natural origin laboratory spillover. Spillover is talking about where the first instance of a hop to a different host occurs. It isn't talking about the origin of the virus.

Fauci was stressing that they do not think it was made in a lab.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
You just said "lab leak" is broader than "made in a lab". That means saying something is a lab leak doesn't exclude the possibility of it being of natural origin. So the alternative to it being a lab leak is it being not a lab leak, which would mean natural origin but not related to being leaked from a lab. If it were a lab leak, it could be natural origin or man made. The former would be a natural origin lab leak.
You can keep reaching, but we're done here. You're a fuсking idiot.
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[QUOTE=TaiMaiSchutze post_id=1678818953]You guys are the ones crying and advocating the murder of public health officials simply because they asked you to take a shot and wear a mask. Talk about entitled Karens. I can't wait for the economic collapse and for when SHTF. You guys will throw such a tantrum it will be hilarious. Finally the death of American hubris will come when the streets run red with the blood of Y'all Qaeda and all the rich entitled Starbucks swine. I can't wait. I'm getting erect just thinking about it. And when it is all over,

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May these great civilizations that suffered so much finally have some peace.

We were not good stewards. 251 military interventions since 1991. Millions of lives ruined. All so you dumb worthless pieces of chit can attack science and spread lies.

I mean this sincerely. I hope every one of your lives are ruined, your fortunes lost, and your arrogance punished with the most extreme brutality imaginable.[/QUOTE]I'll just leave these here for you winnie.[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=TaiMaiSchutze post_id=1678816043]A bullet would be too kind for people like you too, you unhinged psychopath. If any of you harm Fauci without due process, I can assure you there will be many bullets and not much kindness for the people responsible, including your highly esteemed rabble rousers.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bushmaster post_id=1678816333]Unhinged psychopath.



Unhinged psychopath.[/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
I'll just leave these here for you winnie.
I mean...he can't even manage to be self sufficient now, but somehow apparently thinks if we end up with some Mad Max type scenario that he's going to be kicking ass or whatever.

Absolute gigaCOPE.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
I'll just leave these here for you winnie.
funny how you clutch pearls at my rhetoric but excuse the nutjob arguing that Fauci should die. But hey, classic fascist. Play the victim.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
funny how you clutch pearls at my rhetoricbut excuse the nutjob arguing that Fauci should die. But hey, classic fascist. Play the victim.
I'm not playing the victim winnie.

I also think Fauci should hang, and I'm also LMAO'ing at you.
Originally Posted By Polaris
I mean...he can't even manage to be self sufficient now, but somehow apparently thinks if we end up with some Mad Max type scenario that he's going to be kicking ass or whatever.

Absolute gigaCOPE.
LMAO!! Exactly lol.. Never had a job and can't function in a normal, modern, and comfortable society - but just you wait dammit. Come the apocalypse though...

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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
I'm not playing the victim winnie.

I also think Fauci should hang, and I'm also LMAO'ing at you.
Yep, and that's actually probably way better than he deserves. Drawn and quartered, or the like, would probably be more appropriate.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
I'm not playing the victim winnie.

I also think Fauci should hang, and I'm also LMAO'ing at you.



LMAO!! Exactly lol.. Never had a job and can't function in a normal, modern, and comfortable society - but just you wait dammit. Come the apocalypse though...

You misunderstood my point. I won't have to be some badass. You idiots will kill each other in your tantrums. I will be as far away from you scum as possible with popcorn.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
You misunderstood my point. I won't have to be some badass.You idiots will kill each other in your tantrums.
No, just the Ronaholics and Faucibots.
Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
I will be as far away from you scum as possiblewith popcorn.
So.. no changes at all for you then. Just gonna continue on with that whole homebound incel thing?
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The U.S. government may have made duplicate payments for projects at labs in Wuhan, China, through the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), according to records reviewed by CBS News.

"What I've found so far is evidence that points to double billing, potential theft of government funds. It is concerning, especially since it involves dangerous pathogens and risky research," said Diane Cutler, a former federal investigator with over two decades of experience combating white-collar crime and healthcare fraud.

Cutler found evidence of possible double payments as she investigated U.S. government grants that supported high risk research in China leading up to the COVID-19 pandemic.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-gove...ndicate-probe/
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
You misunderstood my point. I won't have to be some badass. You idiots will kill each other in your tantrums. I will be as far away from you scum as possible with popcorn in my dad's basement.
fixed
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
fixed
But who opened the lab door?
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Originally Posted By NYPat
But who opened the lab door?
ok groomer
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
You misunderstood my point. I won't have to be some badass. You idiots will kill each other in your tantrums. I will be as far away from you scum as possible with popcorn.
We've already seen murders, other violence and theft skyrocket since the Ronaholics overhyped fear about Covid. 3 years and running now. It isn't us people who were calling for calm since the beginning, knowing the panic was overhyped that have been killing each other or stealing like a full-time job.
Yeah Buddyyy! Light weight! Light weight baby!!!!
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20
We've already seen murders, other violence and theft skyrocket since the Ronaholics overhyped fear about Covid. 3 years and running now. It isn't us people who were calling for calm since the beginning, knowing the panic was overhyped that have been killing each other or stealing like a full-time job.
Then who has it been?
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Fauci getting visibly more flustered by the day. The fall from grace will be glorious, can’t wait for the news reports that this pos hung himself in his closet when the heat becomes too much for him
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
You misunderstood my point. I won't have to be some badass. You idiots will kill each other in your tantrums. I will be as far away from you scum as possible with popcorn.
You realize that by idolizing this bureaucrat, you’re just as people who worship politicians right? Maybe worse tbh.

Let’s face it you love credentials, because in some way that makes your minimal accomplishments in life feel like something (pieces of paper from a university that show you finished something - whopee)
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Originally Posted By ezmac31
You realize that by idolizing this bureaucrat, you’re just as people who worship politicians right? Maybe worse tbh.

Let’s face it you love credentials, because in some way that makes your minimal accomplishments in life feel like something (pieces of paper from a university that show you finished something - whopee)
He's not a bureaucrat. He's one of the world's leading experts on infectious disease. I personally know and trust people who worked with and trust him as well.

Uhh it's just a baseline sanity check to show you aren't retarded. I've been critical of a few things Fauci has done, but the way you guys malign him is pretty nuts. It's almost entirely because he is the guy you saw on TV. None of you had a clue who Fauci was before covid. See, I knew of him way before as one of the editors of Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine and a big shot at the NIH/NIAID. I have family who worked with the man for decades.

That's the thing. To you, he is some faceless nameless elite bureaucrat you can attack. However, a LOT of doctors know who he is and especially people at the NIH and NIAID can vouch for his integrity and character. What is happening now is 100% political and very sad for the country. The scapegoating and rabble rousing after the incredible display of incompetence by the American people speaks volumes about how degenerate a society this is.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
He's not a bureaucrat. He's one of the world's leading experts on infectious disease. I personally know and trust people who worked with and trust him as well.

Uhh it's just a baseline sanity check to show you aren't retarded. I've been critical of a few things Fauci has done, but the way you guys malign him is pretty nuts. It's almost entirely because he is the guy you saw on TV. None of you had a clue who Fauci was before covid. See, I knew of him way before as one of the editors of Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine and a big shot at the NIH/NIAID. I have family who worked with the man for decades.
Wasn’t he clinging to aids being airborne for like a year after the medical community said that was potato? And as a result his recommended treatments sent patients to an early grave?
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Originally Posted By ezmac31
Wasn’t he clinging to aids being airborne for like a year after the medical community said that was potato? And as a result his recommended treatments sent patients to an early grave?
Not a year. That was in the early phases of AIDS. You need to realize it is pretty hard to figure out how a virus is spreading. No, he changed his view right in line with the evidence. If you think you're a better doctor, by all means apply to the NIAID. How many books on infectious disease have you written?

You may think I am being an ass for saying that, but my point is it is easy for you to sit there and judge chit after the fact. You and most other people wouldn't have the slightest clue how to navigate AIDS and other epidemics.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
Not a year. That was in the early phases of AIDS. You need to realize it is pretty hard to figure out how a virus is spreading. No, he changed his view right in line with the evidence. If you think you're a better doctor, by all means apply to the NIAID. How many books on infectious disease have you written?
Appeal to authority, this is new and exciting. His credentials don’t make him exempt from skepticism or questioning, nor do they absolve him of the consequences of his actions. This dude admitted he lied to the American public about the value of PPE because he was worried there would be a mad rush on gobbling those stocks up. So he lies when it’s convenient for him, and speaks with conviction as an authority when he has none and knows what he’s saying isn’t definitive. That’s someone who should be looked at closely and held accountable, but your man crush stops you from seeing it rationally
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Originally Posted By ezmac31
Appeal to authority, this is new and exciting. His credentials don’t make him exempt from skepticism or questioning, nor do they absolve him of the consequences of his actions. This dude admitted he lied to the American public about the value of PPE because he was worried there would be a mad rush on gobbling those stocks up. So he lies when it’s convenient for him, and speaks with conviction as an authority when he has none and knows what he’s saying isn’t definitive. That’s someone who should be looked at closely and held accountable, but your man crush stops you from seeing it rationally
That lie may have saved many doctors and many lives. Again, it is interesting that the very people qualified to judge him, people who actually went to fuking medical school and study that chit, largely hold him in the highest regard. The few detractors appear politically motivated and are randos from outside his field. Can you find me a single ID specialist who thinks Fauci is an idiot or incompetent at his job? Not surgeons angling for political appointments or libertarian epidemiologist/economists. I mean real doctors who actually are from Fauci's area of expertise...?

Let's examine why you hold your opinion of him. You watched some stuff on Fox News and read some articles floating around conservative sites. You're some military guy with zero background in medicine. Your opinion has been manipulated and shaped by people with an axe to grind. He's become a scapegoat and target for you. You know absolutely nothing about him beyond what people from the media with an obvious agenda told you. have you ever talked to him? Ever read anything he wrote? No. But you want him dead.

Because you're fuking insane. And again, this is why I hate you people. You'll attack and kill anyone you are programmed to.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
He's not a bureaucrat. He's one of the world's leading experts on infectious disease.
And he's also a bureaucrat.

The two aren't mutually exclusive winnie.
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I personally know and trust people who worked with and trust him as well.
No you don't.
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I've been critical of a few things Fauci has done,
No, you haven't.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
And he's also a bureaucrat.

The two aren't mutually exclusive winnie.



No you don't.



No, you haven't.
I do, but if I tell you who they are, you will dox me. I was critical of his not encouraging N95 even though I understand why he did it. I also wish he had been more vocal to condemn gatherings and I wish he had made harsher recommendations for the lockdowns. If we had been more like China, a lot of people would still be alive. But that is also on Trump, Biden, etc for not executing.

Anyway, it's pointless. You guys are soldiers and you have a target you want to kill. And the only way to deal with people like that is to get rid of them. Words won't convince you. Only laws and bullets.
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Originally Posted By ezmac31
You realize that by idolizing this bureaucrat, you’re just as people who worship politicians right? Maybe worse tbh.
What is it they say about Trump supporters? Cult, I believe... right?



It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
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